1st Grow... Working with what I got!

captbooyah

captbooyah

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what kind of pandora's box did I open... and over pots... I love that there are so many different ways to do everything. I don't think I will be trying to SOG this time, but interested in knowing the methods for possible next grow... I have been seeing those around a lot... Fimming, LST, SOG... i get the general idea of what each is supposed to accomplish, but and this point, I want to just get one successful run first... LOL I really do want to try everything eventually, see what suits me best.
 
Captain Jaz

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I would do some basic LST'ing this time if i were you, just one 90o bend after the first 3 or 4 proper pairs of leaves, that will make a huge difference to you final crop, and even if you mess up and break the top, you will still have 6-8 main colas.
And I don't think height will be an issue for you, and white widow isn't a very tall plant, so after you LST, wait for most of the new branches to reach 12-16" above the soil before you switch to 12/12.
 
Captain Jaz

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budlover13 said:
I like LST but only MINIMALLY. I have now tried LST from start and LST on a couple of plants that were just getting too big. I was amazed at the difference when lightly LST'd, but I'm overwhelmed by the clutter of LST from the beginning.
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I'm with you there mate, I guess all the LSTing round in a circle to get 20 colas is fine if you don't mind veging for 8 weeks and only have 3' high space to grow in, but really, just one bend to get 100% more yeild with maybe a week extra veg time is all thats needed in most cases imo.
 
captbooyah

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well i just might have to try that huh... but i'm not growing the WW yet, just ordered the seeds today... Right now i'm working on some seeds I popped off the stem of a beautiful bud (well in all honesty I'm not sure which name was given to it) ... 'chronic' not regs... But i am definitely interested in a bigger yield!
 
Captain Jaz

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captbooyah said:
well i just might have to try that huh... but i'm not growing the WW yet, just ordered the seeds today... Right now i'm working on some seeds I popped off the stem of a beautiful bud (well in all honesty I'm not sure which name was given to it) ... 'chronic' not regs... But i am definitely interested in a bigger yield!
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Lol.. ofc, who isn't? ;-P
And (unless you get lucky) your probably only gonna have 2 females for the first run, so without a lil LSTing you'll waste alot of potential light. Making them bush out a bit will make a huge difference.
 
dbkick

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captbooyah said:
well i just might have to try that huh... but i'm not growing the WW yet, just ordered the seeds today... Right now i'm working on some seeds I popped off the stem of a beautiful bud (well in all honesty I'm not sure which name was given to it) ... 'chronic' not regs... But i am definitely interested in a bigger yield!
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Most seed found in the chronic is there due to hermie, the seed will have hermie trait. I don't know this first hand( I got some of the same type of seed going , I know who the mother is (buddahs sister) but I don't know who the daddy is but was def a herm. I've basically made my own strain and have dubbed it Illegitimate Bastard! I germed 3 seeds , out of the 3 only 2 made it but I suspect they'll both be female (and possibly hermie) . This is actually how they make feminized seed, collect pollen from a female thats been forced to hermie and then pollinate a DIFFERENT female. So you may get a high percentage (near 100 percent female) but with a great chance of hermie.
 
dbkick

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Captain Jaz said:
Hi, a few good experienced guys on this thread, I am enjoying it alot. Can someone please give some advice on this thread https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/394675-yet-another-light-bulb-question.html
Cos there is an idiot there and I don't want the poor guy to foloow bad advice, though I have tried to back up my advice with proof.
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I've actually heard using a veg spectrum and flower spectrum does wonderful shit in flower but don't know first hand. I'm staying out of that one. and with the correct spectrum myself.
 
Captain Jaz

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dbkick said:
I've actually heard using a veg spectrum and flower spectrum does wonderful shit in flower but don't know first hand. I'm staying out of that one. and with the correct spectrum myself.
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Yes, but during flower the ration of blue lumens to red should be about 1 to 3
I use a 250 MH and a 600hps for the same reason.
 
Captain Jaz

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I definately agree that it helps though, keeps the leaves alive for longer, and that means more power for buds! I'm planing some 4 x 125w purple cfl's in my corners when i got the cash :)
 
dbkick

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Right on, so at 1kw hps I'd have to run a 400 (actually 333.33) watt mh in conjunction to provide the correct spectrum? How do the dual arc bulbs split power?
 
Captain Jaz

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dbkick said:
Right on, so at 1kw hps I'd have to run a 400 (actually 333.33) watt mh in conjunction to provide the correct spectrum? How do the dual arc bulbs split power?
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I saw a table somewhere for them, and if i remember right, its almost 50/50 but slightly more on the red side. I found these HQI-T MH bulbs that are basically dual spectrum, though I can't find a wavelength chart for them. But thinking to get a 400w of that to go with my set up to give a lil extra of both.
 
dbkick

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Captain Jaz said:
I saw a table somewhere for them, and if i remember right, its almost 50/50 but slightly more on the red side. I found these HQI-T MH bulbs that are basically dual spectrum, though I can't find a wavelength chart for them. But thinking to get a 400w of that to go with my set up to give a lil extra of both.
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Dual arc contains mh and hps in one bulb but, just scanning thru random info I see someone saying for instance a dual arc is split 600 watts hps and 400 mh, I suppose it depends on the bulbs. Not to jack your thread captbooyah, or go off topic but the topic is kinda broad and like a roller coaster at times! I like a little chaos. yeah that seems to be the way those things swing, 400 mh 600 hps.
 
Captain Jaz

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dbkick said:
Dual arc contains mh and hps in one bulb but, just scanning thru random info I see someone saying for instance a dual arc is split 600 watts hps and 400 mh, I suppose it depends on the bulbs. Not to jack your thread captbooyah, or go off topic but the topic is kinda broad and like a roller coaster at times! I like a little chaos. yeah that seems to be the way those things swing, 400 mh 600 hps.
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Lol, nah, its all good info for her, not long till she's gotta decide what lights to buy.
And I thought you were talking about dual spec HPS, idk anyone that has used dual arc, so I'm interested to know... Though i'd still lean towards just getting an extra light for my blue and red spectrums, cos then i get the bonus of better spread.
 
Captain Jaz

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Though I guess if i didn't already have a 600w hps (standard spec) then I might conisder getting more than 1 dual arc/spec instead, but i thought they were a bit more than 1/3 blue to 2/3 red..
 
Captain Jaz

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dbkick said:
I may have one of those next time I need a bulb which I hope is a good long time.
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Though itys good practice to replace your bulb half way through its life as its output decreases significantly - 10,000 / 12 = 833days/2 = 416.5 days... so basically, change your bulbs every 1.3 years.
 
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