1st real AG grow attempt. Flowering with LED

SlickRickMcgee

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[QUOTE="SICC";2249167]17 is only a couple days off of 2 weeks, give her some time, maybe she had shown and you havnt seen yet, some times is hard to find those white hairs[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I looked this morning before lights out and it was showing some white hairs!:clap:
 
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raggamuffin said:
kool, Leds!!rep dude-dude rep, mind if i tag alone for da flight lol...Thats a majority sativa, she looks good those Broads get real tall, i currently have 2ladys in a space-saver6 that are sativa, i LST'd them, one after 41/2weeks veg, an the other one i bent da top, den leveled an tied it at 14 days n2 Flower, which in turn gave me 5 more bud sites, dis is a very interesting grow she big an healthy keep up dat T.L.C.....thanx fo yo time,
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Cool, I was thinking of tying it, but it's the first time I've done this so I'm not sure how. I'm out of town for a few days, hope it's flowery when I get back.
Since I chopped the two males down, she's drinking less water from the rez.
 
lurkmaster

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I think it might be too late to do some heavy duty LST.

You can probably tie down the tip, but there not enough flex in the stem when its already this mature to weave a pattern.

Grats on the female though =]
 
"SICC"

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SlickRickMcgee said:
Yeah, I looked this morning before lights out and it was showing some white hairs!:clap:
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Congrats man! +REP

Cant wait to see her in full bloom, are you sure she will be ok for 2 days? thats a long time to leave her alone, she had to be drinking a load of water a day, unless you have some one who will water her, I'd hate to see you leave and come bac to a under watered plants, has hapened to a couple people already
 
SlickRickMcgee

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[QUOTE="SICC";2250827]Congrats man! +REP

Cant wait to see her in full bloom, are you sure she will be ok for 2 days? thats a long time to leave her alone, she had to be drinking a load of water a day, unless you have some one who will water her, I'd hate to see you leave and come bac to a under watered plants, has hapened to a couple people already[/QUOTE]

It seems since I cut the two males down that the water usage is went way down.
I think it will be ok. I'll know more about how it's drinking before I leave late tonight. thanks!
 
Spliffious

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[quote="SICC";2251243]no prob man, good lucc :leaf:[/quote]

Wassup slick rick mcgee... im flowering with 90 w led ufo also. and i vegged with ag200. it was quite an experience. I even sent the damn thing back and got a full refund after 36 days of growing...lol... I built my own superior DWC/Aero/Fogoponics 18 g rubbermaid system. It's cool so far, but kinda a bitch to clean out and flush every two weeks. But I can grow 6 large beautys and you can only grow one with your puny little one gallan resevoir. If you go for more, they better be small/ and hope for females, for the roots will intertwine and cause a problem with The Damn Rez.... I was pissed once I realized Only one plant could go in AG..... but good luck to you. for we are led revolutionists and pushing for new eco freindly technology.....! go you!

subscribed to your journal.... good luck broha... hope you turn the critics into Led Revolutionists!!!bongsmilie
 
SlickRickMcgee

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Spliffious said:
Wassup slick rick mcgee... im flowering with 90 w led ufo also. and i vegged with ag200. it was quite an experience. I even sent the damn thing back and got a full refund after 36 days of growing...lol... I built my own superior DWC/Aero/Fogoponics 18 g rubbermaid system. It's cool so far, but kinda a bitch to clean out and flush every two weeks. But I can grow 6 large beautys and you can only grow one with your puny little one gallan resevoir. If you go for more, they better be small/ and hope for females, for the roots will intertwine and cause a problem with The Damn Rez.... I was pissed once I realized Only one plant could go in AG..... but good luck to you. for we are led revolutionists and pushing for new eco freindly technology.....! go you!

subscribed to your journal.... good luck broha... hope you turn the critics into Led Revolutionists!!!bongsmilie
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I saw your set-up and it looks cool. I also want to do a DIY. I'll give this thing it's day in court and then will put it in the kitchen and grow peppers and veggies. I'm learning a lot and it's a cool hobby. Thanks for stopping in.
 
SlickRickMcgee

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Spliffious said:
yo out of towner. I have found a neat thread to post in.... got alot of attention about 90w LED UFO... check it out. peace

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/50585-led-ufo-grow-light.html
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Hey thanks for the link. This basically suggests what I was shooting for. It looks like the LED is slower and yield is less, but they only used a LED and NO cfls, I also didn't start with the LED, but added it about 3 weeks ago. I know that the HID types are ultimately better, but I am trying to use low energy and have no worry of heat where I am growing. If I had a barn in the middle of the country I'd have the HID/MH and grow in soil. I'm in no hurry and don't intend to sell. Just wanted to grow my own and have a little for the weekend.:bigjoint:
 
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[quote="SICC";2267459]look great man, cant wait to see her fill out :leaf:[/quote]

Hey SICC, thanks for looking. Maybe this NASA shit works. ha ha!
 
lurkmaster

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I've been doing some pretty intensive LED research, and it looks like the biggest problem with exclusive LED growing is delayed flowering, which can be cured by adding white light.

http://www.ledgrow.eu/

pretty interesting read, his DIY guide isn't really user-friendly, it probably makes sense to him because he wrote it, lol.

But I am definitely going to look for more information on DIY led stuff, I'm thinking you could build one of the high power ones for under $100.

I'm just shocked that it has so few LEDs, but its because of the focusing rings..

There are also even MORE powerful leds out there from the same brand he uses..



Also, you should be fine with those CFLs, the led lights are supposed to work really good in conjunction with other lighting.


Plant is looking good man.. she is getting really big.. =] She is au'natural right? no topping or anything?
 
SlickRickMcgee

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lurkmaster said:
I've been doing some pretty intensive LED research, and it looks like the biggest problem with exclusive LED growing is delayed flowering, which can be cured by adding white light.

http://www.ledgrow.eu/

pretty interesting read, his DIY guide isn't really user-friendly, it probably makes sense to him because he wrote it, lol.

But I am definitely going to look for more information on DIY led stuff, I'm thinking you could build one of the high power ones for under $100.

I'm just shocked that it has so few LEDs, but its because of the focusing rings..

There are also even MORE powerful leds out there from the same brand he uses..



Also, you should be fine with those CFLs, the led lights are supposed to work really good in conjunction with other lighting.


Plant is looking good man.. she is getting really big.. =] She is au'natural right? no topping or anything?
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Hey Lurkster, Yeah, the plant looked good this morning (her bedtime) The very top has the biggest bud, the others aren't bad, they're coming along. According to that you tube video it's probably going to be many several more weeks. I do believe LEDs flower slower. The thing grew tall and fast though. What do you mean topping? Newbie here. You mean cutting off leaves? I did cut some leaves off? Is that correct or not? It would be interesting to actually run 1000 watts of LEDs. Thanks for checkin it out.
 
lurkmaster

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You have one main cola, you didn't fim/top it so the plant is growing how it would naturally.

When you cut the top of the plant at the stem, thats topping it.

1000W of leds would probably be more light than the plants can use if it was high power leds.

I would like to see how the HTG supply panels work, they have a 300 watter that is supposed to yield more than hps.

http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=53935


It just seems like theres alot of gray area with these LED lights.. you don't know how much light they are actually putting out.

30w led could mean 1 lumen or 100 lumens

I also have no idea how many lumens or what unit you measure light intensity for these leds.. so theres no way to really compare...

http://www.philipslumileds.com/products/luxeon/luxeonrebel

Another thing I thought about trying was the warm/cool white color bulbs, it seems like in most tests I've seen they have an overpowering amount of blue light, I am thinking those cool white bulbs would be awesome to throw in the mix with a smaller amount of blues, to cover the white spectrum to stop slow flowering.

I am going to keep trying to dig up info on this, I really want this to be a diy project, and if it sucks, I will still have a badass multi-colored light for my room to make it all purple and shit when I'm blowing down with the lights off or something.. =p
 
SlickRickMcgee

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lurkmaster said:
You have one main cola, you didn't fim/top it so the plant is growing how it would naturally.

When you cut the top of the plant at the stem, thats topping it.

1000W of leds would probably be more light than the plants can use if it was high power leds.

I would like to see how the HTG supply panels work, they have a 300 watter that is supposed to yield more than hps.

http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=53935


It just seems like theres alot of gray area with these LED lights.. you don't know how much light they are actually putting out.

30w led could mean 1 lumen or 100 lumens

I also have no idea how many lumens or what unit you measure light intensity for these leds.. so theres no way to really compare...

http://www.philipslumileds.com/products/luxeon/luxeonrebel

Another thing I thought about trying was the warm/cool white color bulbs, it seems like in most tests I've seen they have an overpowering amount of blue light, I am thinking those cool white bulbs would be awesome to throw in the mix with a smaller amount of blues, to cover the white spectrum to stop slow flowering.

I am going to keep trying to dig up info on this, I really want this to be a diy project, and if it sucks, I will still have a badass multi-colored light for my room to make it all purple and shit when I'm blowing down with the lights off or something.. =p
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Yeah, the 300 watter is nice, but it's almost $1300. I suppose by this time next year they may be half price. The advantage of cost of LEDs is that you don't have to replace bulbs every 90 days. They say they have a 10,000 hour life span.

Yeah, I've not seen any LED manufacturers or distributors measuring these in terms of Lumens.

Your idea sounds cool, give it a shot.

I'm looking to try the next grow with 13 white cfls and the led from the very beginning and see what happens.
 
lurkmaster

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100,000 hours actually if I recall correctly.

The reason why they don't list lumens is because its not nearly as much as say a HPS light but 90% of that HPS isn't even used by the plants, 100% of the led is.


Heres some info I found on which spectrums do what, now its only a matter of finding out which of these things need to be focused on the most for big budz and honing in on the best wavelengths.

Red spectrum
Photosynthesis
Phytochrome

Blue spectrum
Photomorphogenesis
Phototropism
Stomatal Control

right now the setup I am thinking about is going to be something similar to this ratio wise.

6 red : 1 warm white : 2 blue


there is no single frequency plants use, there is just relative % of absorption used by photosynthesis in those colors.

the highest percentages are around ~450nm and ~640nm

I can see why your LED light has orange, because that's somewhere inbetween.

I would definitely keep those cfls so you have some white light in there.


I think I'm going to start compiling a thread on LED lights and see if some other people can shine more light on the subject.
 
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