1st Try with Collodial silver

Greensea

Greensea

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Hello all!
I did made my own collodial silver just for funn and to try make some automatic seeds...
I was not expect that it will work but it did and now i have 2 beautifull leadies and 1 half hermie...
I started spraying one of my ladies 1x day with my selfmade CS @ 45PPM on 2 lower branches 1st day after 1 week when i saw sign of preflower, this is about at 3rd and half week from seed...I did it for about only 8days and stopped cause i finish my cs solution and i didnt have time to redoing new... than i forgot about it... but ... but... some days ago i just find clear sign of hermie on that 2 branches i sprayed... i was surprised and excited but now i dont know how to manage :D but i will figure out ... Problem is... all 3 plants are same age, so im worried that the male pollen wont be rdy for time and/or ladies will be to old for making sex ... idk will see...
 

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vostok

vostok

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CONGRATULATIONS
This is a big step in many growers lives
the ability to alter the code of plants without using breeds is cool no?
tho its best to make your own normal seeds first
just so you know how to collect and store pollen, for the above reason
many growers are getting lazy and buying in their C.Silver but I like to make it
at about 50-75ppm, store in darkness so to stay potent
and tie a little string as a marker to remind you that this lateral has been applied
more info on you Colloidal Silver method please

ps collect and store you pollen in a jar to
the freezer with rice or sachets to avoid water
and humidity for up to 6 months, apply with a quickie bud​
 
Greensea

Greensea

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vostok said:
CONGRATULATIONS
This is a big step in many growers lives
the ability to alter the code of plants without using breeds is cool no?
tho its best to make your own normal seeds first
just so you know how to collect and store pollen, for the above reason
many growers are getting lazy and buying in their C.Silver but I like to make it
at about 50-75ppm, store in darkness so to stay potent
and tie a little string as a marker to remind you that this lateral has been applied
more info on you Colloidal Silver method please

ps collect and store you pollen in a jar to
the freezer with rice or sachets to avoid water
and humidity for up to 6 months, apply with a quickie bud​
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Thanks!! xD

As im noob with pollen and co. i need advice:
1. when is pollen ready to harvest and store?
2. store in freezer or refrigerator? if refrigerator in which department(meat,vegetables,drinks...)
3. how mature need to be female plant to inpollinate her...(how many weeks before harvest)

Cant wait to have my own seeds and start to DIY 12 sites aero system that i found in another cultivation page, but i will do some modifications like bigger res, larger and wider pipes with more powerful pump... but same concept

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/completed-journals/93006-4inch-pvc-aero-nft-4x5-scrog-1200-watts.html
 
Greensea

Greensea

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For making my CS Im using:

- AC adaptor output : 12V, DC, 500mA...
- 2 wires with aligator clips
- 2 pure silver coins
- 3 glass cups
- lab. grade distilled water @ 0 PPM
- cone coffe filters
- dark brown glass sprayer
- PPM reader

After many tries i got my method sorted out...
I m making little amount at time (about 2dcl).
The coins are in water 95% of surface, only where they touch clips, are out...They are 3cm(approx 1 inch) apart from each other, facing them bigger surface possible...
As im starting with 0 PPM it take abit to reach 8 PPM (like 2h) but after that it goes so faster and in about 30-45 min more i got around 25-30 PPM strong solution... I leave all in this cup for about 24h in dark place!!
next day the ppm is around 40 PPM and stable...(idk why)
At this point i have a little grey/brown sediments at bottom of glass and the colour of solution is bright amber/yellow.
I pass the solution through 2 different coffe filters and after this i store my solution in the glass sprayer in cold dark place rdy to use...
 
vostok

vostok

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You are a lot more trusting of governments than me,
I prefer to use silver wire, very cheap from you local jewelers, and 99.9% pure
I make a huge 500ml with an old charger strapped together 3x9v=27vdc@500mA for 8 hours or overnite
accurately measuring Ppm is an art and needs practice to set at zero, gurgle for more
pee color is good, but I am concerned that you then filter out the very silver that you have been making..???
my concern is that if its small enough to get out of the sprayer bottle then its good

This is much the same solution that lead to the development of photography,
hence its best to make and store in the dark as it will expire in light​
 
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EverythingsHazy

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As long as there are a lot of white pistils being made, the plant should be able to live long enough to make mature seeds from them. Auto's can live for a lot longer than people seem to think. The calyxes swell, and the buds start to foxtail a bit on some strains, but they don't die for a long time if watered, and esp if fed too.

Also, you should get a laser pointer to get a more useful concentration reading. Shine the beam through the CS and it'll show up like a mini lightsaber. Your goal is to get it to be as solid, and smooth as a beam as possible, with not many individually visible particles floating around in it.
 
Greensea

Greensea

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vostok said:
You are a lot more trusting of governments than me,
I prefer to use silver wire, very cheap from you local jewelers, and 99.9% pure
I make a huge 500ml with an old charger strapped together 3x9v=27vdc@500mA for 8 hours or overnite
accurately measuring Ppm is an art and needs practice to set at zero, gurgle for more
pee color is good, but I am concerned that you then filter out the very silver that you have been making..???
my concern is that if its small enough to get out of the sprayer bottle then its good

This is much the same solution that lead to the development of photography,
hence its best to make and store in the dark as it will expire in light​
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Standard good qality PPM pen isnt good for reading CS ppm?
I measured ppm pre and after filtering and it was the same...
And btw im using coins because i didnt find any local jewlery store with silver wire stocked and i just take austrian coin that it was in stock... I told the guy who sold me coins that i need it for making CS and i will drink it so need to be pure silver 99.99% and he assured me that it is pure silver for shure...I threatened him with a lawsuit if something goes wrong with my health and he assured me again.. so i'm confident..
and i belive if it wasnt pure i would not be able to make such a crystal clear solution but cloudy with some kind of rust sediments...

Hmm... about the photography solution i belive is not the same ...
It will be if u are doing this in saline solution and i think this is toxic... but just voices from google... not shure
 
Greensea

Greensea

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EverythingsHazy said:
As long as there are a lot of white pistils being made, the plant should be able to live long enough to make mature seeds from them. Auto's can live for a lot longer than people seem to think. The calyxes swell, and the buds start to foxtail a bit on some strains, but they don't die for a long time if watered, and esp if fed too.

Also, you should get a laser pointer to get a more useful concentration reading. Shine the beam through the CS and it'll show up like a mini lightsaber. Your goal is to get it to be as solid, and smooth as a beam as possible, with not many individually visible particles floating around in it.
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OK so u believe i didn't lose the train...
But still need wait male pollen to be mature...I read about it takes around 10 days... we will see...
 
Neoangelo147

Neoangelo147

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Hey man how did you make your CS i tired making some and i had a hard time getting passed 20 ppm? I'm using pure silver wire 12Guage and distilled water...I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong any idea?
 
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EverythingsHazy

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Greensea said:
For making my CS Im using:

- AC adaptor output : 12V, DC, 500mA...
- 2 wires with aligator clips
- 2 pure silver coins
- 3 glass cups
- lab. grade distilled water @ 0 PPM
- cone coffe filters
- dark brown glass sprayer
- PPM reader

After many tries i got my method sorted out...
I m making little amount at time (about 2dcl).
The coins are in water 95% of surface, only where they touch clips, are out...They are 3cm(approx 1 inch) apart from each other, facing them bigger surface possible...
As im starting with 0 PPM it take abit to reach 8 PPM (like 2h) but after that it goes so faster and in about 30-45 min more i got around 25-30 PPM strong solution... I leave all in this cup for about 24h in dark place!!
next day the ppm is around 40 PPM and stable...(idk why)
At this point i have a little grey/brown sediments at bottom of glass and the colour of solution is bright amber/yellow.
I pass the solution through 2 different coffe filters and after this i store my solution in the glass sprayer in cold dark place rdy to use...
Click to expand...
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You should get a laser pointer to get a more useful concentration reading. Shine the beam through the CS and it'll show up like a mini lightsaber. Your goal is to get it to be as solid, and smooth as a beam as possible, with not many individually visible particles floating around in it.
Neoangelo147 said:
Hey man how did you make your CS i tired making some and i had a hard time getting passed 20 ppm? I'm using pure silver wire 12Guage and distilled water...I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong any idea?
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Add an airstone and air pump from a pet store into your generator jar. It should allow you to reach higher ppm's. However, you don't need any more than 20. Also, clean the wires whenever they start looking dirty.
 
Greensea

Greensea

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Ok now im in idle mode and waiting seeds to mature...
in that time im trying my new DYi bubbler cloner xD
After 12 day roots are showing...
1 of clone is mature bud taken around 5th week flowering...
 

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