2 blue dreams and a couple questions

so with my discouragement on this grow, i went on my porch and dug up a baby fom another pot i had put a germinated BD into w few weeks ago. it has its first set of 3 finger leaves coming in. i re potted it into some FFOF in a styorofoam cup. the leaves are pretty pale and it has been stunted for a couple weeks (only in shad, never any direct sunlight.), definatly going to need some tlc, but im hoping for a fresh ish start on this one. so now im up to 3 BDs in my box. still 88w, but thats ok for me on this grow. maybe add some more lights for flower, wokred picked back up so i may have some extra cash soon. hoping for a good recovery and outcome!

Cool man, yeah throw up some pics I'm sure the one plant is worth saving. I had a teeny tiny cotton candy that I almost lost and swore I was going to, but I hung in there and she's doing great.

Post a pic of the leaves so we can try and figure it out. Magnesium deficiency usually starts out as yellowing in the leaf margins, with the veins staying green. Its a semi-mobile element so the deficiency usually shows up close to the top, but can be anywhere really.

Ya not sure what the def is or if its burnt, I do have a couple pics of that. I defoliate the affected leaves, and it opened them up a bit. The one that has never left the box, looks really healthy except for the small stature and the leaf problems. But over all healthy. Looks like I may be starting a 4 headed lst girl! She is quite uniform once I opened her up. Here are the pics. Oh, and a pic of the stunted baby I pulled from outside.

Those little girls are burnt my friend.

I didn't recall reading anything about you main-lining but is that what you've got goin. There?

Ya I figured it was nute burn. Damn. And ya I guess I am main lining. That wasn't my intention, I was just trying to do another lst, but I have 4 branches off two nodes, semi simetrical... I guess she is main lines kinda huh? I watered last night with plain water so hopefully she bounces back from it.

Yeah, she'll bounce back. Keep flushing her (don't over water though lol). You feed synthetic nutes, right? Didn't you say miracle grow? If you're using synthetic/salt nutes then they'll flush really quickly. They should get rid of the toxicity in a day or two, and after that you'll start to see her perk back up. she'll keep the brown spots but as log as there are healthy veins connecting green spots to the lraf stem she'll still be able to photosynthesize.

You should see what my poor blue dream plant is looking like. Im having the hardest time trying to clone, and I've been taking all the branches off the bottom. So it looks like the plant got up this morning and forgot to put underwear on lol. Big up top and skinny on the bottom

Haha that's funny. Ya feeding synthetic. Not miracle gro. That was the soil have have always used. I'm using super thrive this go around. A buddy of mine gave me a pre mixed 2 liter of it and it has done nothing but burn my gals. Never using this shit again! I watered last night and ran about 2 or 3 times the cup size of water through her. I also trimmed all of the burnt leaves and she looks happy. So far no more burns, so I'm hoping with just plain water for a while she will start to actually grow! I mean, the four branches I have all have 5 or 6 nodes each, so it's not like there is no growth, just not as vigorous as I'm used to. So we will see how these two go, and I have a little one from outside in there, so I'm hoping I can get this little one back in the swing. They are all 3 the same strain, as far as I know.

Hey, thanks for all the input from you guys. Most of my threads are dead so I'm stoked to have the two/three of you following along and giving good insite.

Try Happy frog all the soil mix's are great.

I'll try that next time if I go soil. I want to go Hempy next time... But I'll try the happy frog if I don't go that route.

I used to grow in black gold soil, it was good stuff from what I experienced, then I started using MG up until now. I got some free FFOF this time and its not impressing me, unless I'm just used to MG, the most potent soil out there I NEVER fed during veg with MG.

Super thrive is good for pulling a plant out of shock after neglect or transplanting. Its not plant food its hormones and vitamins!

mr sunshine said:

Super thrive is good for pulling a plant out of shock after neglect or transplanting. Its not plant food its hormones and vitamins!

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No shit!! F*** me man. I'm done feeding then. I'll just get some molasses and mybe some organic supplements. No more chemical crap for me.

Though I do have some big bloom from the same dude, is big bloom good for flower or should I toss it all?

Yea big bloom is fine i would get some tiger bloom to go with that big bloom shit if your getting the tiger u might as well get the grow big and ph your water nute solution

Well being a low budget grow this time, I'll probably stick with the big bloom. I wanna grow Hemphill next so I'm going to get some really good quality nutes. Don't know what kind yet though.

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No shit!! F*** me man. I'm done feeding then. I'll just get some molasses and mybe some organic supplements. No more chemical crap for me.

Though I do have some big bloom from the same dude, is big bloom good for flower or should I toss it all?

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Yeah dude, don't give up on nutes, they can definitely really help out. Just learn how much is too much, and when to back off and start back up and what not. And super thrive is the shit, I meant to mention that it's really just supposed to be used to bring plants back from the brink. But it will burn. After all, it does have millions of science miracles in every drop.

You should look into Roots Organics by aurora. You can buy the master pack for $40 and it has enough veg and flower nutes for 3 or 4 plants for one grow. It comes with bat Guanos, and all kinds of good stuff. Plus, it's a lot harder to burn with organic nutes bc the nutrient uptake is different, and a lot slower.

And for my aero setup I've been using botanicares Kind line, its a good synthetic one IMO. Lately I've been switching back and forth between my organic nutes and my synthetic nutes (for my soil plants) and its nice bc I have fast-acting nutes, and slow steady nutes. Whenever I feed synthetic, I can come back the next day and see the difference in how many pistils there are and everytbing, its crazy. But I'm definitely having my best results yet with my latest grow, I'm trying to get 1 gram per watt or more.

Btw, I've never used it but I've heard dyna grow can't be beat for the price. Great synthetic line, I was thinking about trying the protekt (silica supplement; it helps plants withstand extreme environmental conditions like heat, drought, cold, whatever.

Og yeah, another side note-- don't go too crazy with the molasses. It's good to feed a couple times with it, but then stop using it for a month or so and then feed a couple times again. The molasses is used to feed good bacteria and help them get their population up. Once they are populated, you don't want to keep feeding them BC you instead want them to start breaking down your organic nutrients for plant uptake. If you constantly feed with molasses, you won't get as much of the benefit from your good little microbes.

God to know about the molasses. Last grow I fed a little with every watering. I knew what it was for, but never thought to use it just a couple times here and there. And thanks again on the nute notes. Once I get some cash I'm going to get a new/real lineup. So far she is looking better and happier with the flush and trim. I'll post pics tomorrow night when I get home

Sweet, yeah its always nice to see that they're getting healthy again. Luckily I've not burned my shit up bad enough to lose any plants, but I've had them sick/shocked/deficient several times. It was enough to put the flower development on pause and hurt my yield a little bit, but they've all still turned out pretty decent.

And yeah man hell, if you're really not trying to spend much, miracle grow has specialized stuff; it comes in a box and its only like 5 or 6 bucks. They have different kids, and I can't remember which is which but one is like for azaleas and one for roses, one that comes in a purple box.. Anyways, just look at one that has a high N and lower P and K for veg, and then one with lower N for flower. I think the original kind is like 22-11-11 and the rose kind is 11-22-11 or something. But yeah, it would only be 12 bucks for both and I would use them sparingly, but I've seen some people on here post some crazy nice results with just plain miracle grow, its insane. When I first got on here there were a lot of people talking smack about how "miracle grow doesn't work for weed", but it's a synthetic/salt just like other advanced nutes. I mean shit, look at the periodic table--none of the nutes are more "advanced" than the others. Its just a matter of where they were sourced, are they water soluble/fast acting or organic, etc. But they all work better than not having them when they're used correctly.

Ya I've used MG cactus food for flower before and it did alright. It was like 2-7-7 or something. I'm kinda iffy about feeding anything now, but I would like to feed her and have her go off without burning again. I know now that the superthriive is crap for a veg nute. But Im just kinda scared to to hurt her further.

Ill post pics tonight, but the one BD that I took out and out on the fridge, I put her back in the box a few days ago, and I think I'm seeing some male pre sex goin on on the top node. I know it's pre sex and I'm pretty sure it's male. No hairs coming out, so I'll wait another week or so until I pull it out. I also finally got a timer so they have now had their first 18/6 cycle. Maybe some dark will de the one some good. I'm pretty much gonna give up on the possible male. It's a bummer though, because it has the same amount (4) main branches but it has way more secondary growth coming from those branches. But I'll just give all my attention to the other 4 brancher and the baby I pulled from outside.

On a note of the baby, she is starting to darken back up. I think the pot I had her in was way too N deficient so she seems to be liking her new home in the nice warm box! It was getting down to low 30s at night for a few days there.

And again, thanks to all who have been sticking around this thread. I never ment for it to turn into a journal, but enough of you have stuck around for me to turn it into one, so thank you! My actuall journal thread dint get but a handful of replies.