jensenbeach1
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They were purchase d recently from clone place about week ago they were inder greenhouses with hour supplemental light. Thanks for the great tips on starting early which we didnt spend so much time setting up
2 plants 1 big pot
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kratos015
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This is just my personal experience, but OG isn't something I've had great success running outdoors. Not saying that it isn't possible, but there are so many more variables you have to worry about with an outdoor grow. I really depends, it's gonna depend on how much those og's stretch, the amount of nodes they have, and how thick the buds get. I don't have much experience with many OG strains, so I can't really say for sure. I did a couple OG strains outside once, Superman and Sacramento OGs and they were my worst performers in terms of yield and quality. All the idiotproof strains like BD yielded well in terms of quality and quantity.
Hard for me to say for sure really, I guess a guesstimate would be a QP per, although a half pound could be possible if you run into minimal problems. Again, hard to say. Sorry I can't help more :/
jensenbeach1
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No worries at all man thank you for your replies, there are too many factors to accurately guess just wanted a guesstimate from an experienced grower. I am dissapointted we have mostly ogs but gotta get what you can right? Have option for some 8ft by 6ft mothers for 300 cbd nordle, cbd mango haze, etc. Curious if cbds perform well. Ive tried few cbds at dispensaries and felt a good effect off themas well.
kratos015
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As long as you trust the source of those mothers then I would actually highly recommend going that route for sure. The absolute biggest factors in determining what your yields are would be as follows.
Genetics
Pot size/Root mass
Training/pruning techniques
Adequate lighting/nutrients/water/etc.
Now, of course adequate lighting/nutes/water/etc is absolutely crucial to getting maximum yields from a strain and by having it at the bottom of the list I am now saying that it isn't important in achieving maximum yields. However what I am saying is that is something that should already be taken care of ideally. The genetics, root mass, and training techniques are the things that will really help you achieve larger yields though. Ideally, all of our gardens have adequate nutes/light/etc. and we know that won't be an issue in getting huge yields.
A "perfectly" grown Blue Dream will typically yield more than a "perfectly" grown OG Kush strain, and so on and so forth. So that's the main reason genetics will be your #1 factor in getting quality yields. It isn't just about the strains themselves either, but where they came from. I always recommend seed banks and refuse to get genetics from anything but now. They are verified genetics, I can't tell you how many crap clones I've come across in all of my grows and how buying seeds was a huge game changer in quality and yield alike. But my bad experiences doesn't mean you don't have a source you trust, I'm just saying make sure is all.
Knowing the strain inside and out is also a huge game changer and that is the #1 thing in being truly "dialed in" is how well you know your strains. Without knowing how it grows in veg, how it grows in flower, how big/small it gets, and so forth, there is no possible way to optimize your grow. Without knowing those genetic factors, there is no way to perfectly plan for pot sizes and how it should be trained and so forth.
After picking genetics that will yield how you want, put them in the largest pots you can afford as early as you possibly can. The larger the root mass, the larger the tree. Don't worry about whether they'll fill up the pots or not, assuming you're on top of your watering and medium of choice then the right strain can fill those massive pots easily if started at the right time. My girls were only vegged in my shed for 2 weeks before hitting 12/12, they are all completely rootbound and they are in 25 and 30 gallon pots. There are people hitting 5-10# per plant outdoors, but their container sizes are massive. Like, multiple cubic yards of soil massive. Another one I saw in Oregon was growing in cubic yard beds (~200g) and was pulling 4 per plant. So definitely make sure you consider that once you've got your genetics going.
As for training and pruning, this is also another strain dependent thing. They all took to topping alright and all, no problems in terms of stress or anything. However, now that I know how they all grow I would definitely train them all much differently. I would have LST'd some of them a lot more than I did, where as with others I would have only topped once and left them alone from that point. Outdoors, I'd still top them at least once and go from there depending on what I knew about the strains. The nice thing about outdoor grow is that it grows so big so fast you can actually get a pretty good idea and plan accordingly. Some might do good in tomato rings, some might do better with LST, some might do best with nothing more than a single topping, it all depends on how the strain performs.
I'm by no means an expert, but in both my research and experience the above will always hold true. I only started because I was in California and it was legal for me as a patient, so why not give things a try right? The thing that is interesting is legal plant counts. I never had the balls to do it illegally, so I steered clear. However if it's illegal and you're taking a risk already, those people hardly gave a thought to plant count. Just grow out as many as you can and call it a day. But for legal patients, we typically have specified plant counts so we have to do everything we can to get the maximum yields out of all that we can. I'm still looking for permanent keeper strains, but once you find your keeper strain that you know about then you can employ the above techniques and get excellent yields. From that point it's just a matter of taking notes and tinkering with things and you can achieve great yields.
At this point all you can do is just take care of the girls as best as you can and wait. Make sure you take notes and use every grow as an opportunity for improvement, if you're always looking for something to improve on then both quality and yields will come naturally with time and patience. Perhaps even look into to starting a journal, that way you have an open outlet for people to give you any input/advice. Forums like these are a valuable learning tool if you're willing to put yourself out there.
jensenbeach1
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/first-outdoor-grow-2017.942918/page-3#post-13615188As long as you trust the source of those mothers then I would actually highly recommend going that route for sure. The absolute biggest factors in determining what your yields are would be as follows.
Genetics
Pot size/Root mass
Training/pruning techniques
Adequate lighting/nutrients/water/etc.
Now, of course adequate lighting/nutes/water/etc is absolutely crucial to getting maximum yields from a strain and by having it at the bottom of the list I am now saying that it isn't important in achieving maximum yields. However what I am saying is that is something that should already be taken care of ideally. The genetics, root mass, and training techniques are the things that will really help you achieve larger yields though. Ideally, all of our gardens have adequate nutes/light/etc. and we know that won't be an issue in getting huge yields.
A "perfectly" grown Blue Dream will typically yield more than a "perfectly" grown OG Kush strain, and so on and so forth. So that's the main reason genetics will be your #1 factor in getting quality yields. It isn't just about the strains themselves either, but where they came from. I always recommend seed banks and refuse to get genetics from anything but now. They are verified genetics, I can't tell you how many crap clones I've come across in all of my grows and how buying seeds was a huge game changer in quality and yield alike. But my bad experiences doesn't mean you don't have a source you trust, I'm just saying make sure is all.
Knowing the strain inside and out is also a huge game changer and that is the #1 thing in being truly "dialed in" is how well you know your strains. Without knowing how it grows in veg, how it grows in flower, how big/small it gets, and so forth, there is no possible way to optimize your grow. Without knowing those genetic factors, there is no way to perfectly plan for pot sizes and how it should be trained and so forth.
After picking genetics that will yield how you want, put them in the largest pots you can afford as early as you possibly can. The larger the root mass, the larger the tree. Don't worry about whether they'll fill up the pots or not, assuming you're on top of your watering and medium of choice then the right strain can fill those massive pots easily if started at the right time. My girls were only vegged in my shed for 2 weeks before hitting 12/12, they are all completely rootbound and they are in 25 and 30 gallon pots. There are people hitting 5-10# per plant outdoors, but their container sizes are massive. Like, multiple cubic yards of soil massive. Another one I saw in Oregon was growing in cubic yard beds (~200g) and was pulling 4 per plant. So definitely make sure you consider that once you've got your genetics going.
As for training and pruning, this is also another strain dependent thing. They all took to topping alright and all, no problems in terms of stress or anything. However, now that I know how they all grow I would definitely train them all much differently. I would have LST'd some of them a lot more than I did, where as with others I would have only topped once and left them alone from that point. Outdoors, I'd still top them at least once and go from there depending on what I knew about the strains. The nice thing about outdoor grow is that it grows so big so fast you can actually get a pretty good idea and plan accordingly. Some might do good in tomato rings, some might do better with LST, some might do best with nothing more than a single topping, it all depends on how the strain performs.
I'm by no means an expert, but in both my research and experience the above will always hold true. I only started because I was in California and it was legal for me as a patient, so why not give things a try right? The thing that is interesting is legal plant counts. I never had the balls to do it illegally, so I steered clear. However if it's illegal and you're taking a risk already, those people hardly gave a thought to plant count. Just grow out as many as you can and call it a day. But for legal patients, we typically have specified plant counts so we have to do everything we can to get the maximum yields out of all that we can. I'm still looking for permanent keeper strains, but once you find your keeper strain that you know about then you can employ the above techniques and get excellent yields. From that point it's just a matter of taking notes and tinkering with things and you can achieve great yields.
At this point all you can do is just take care of the girls as best as you can and wait. Make sure you take notes and use every grow as an opportunity for improvement, if you're always looking for something to improve on then both quality and yields will come naturally with time and patience. Perhaps even look into to starting a journal, that way you have an open outlet for people to give you any input/advice. Forums like these are a valuable learning tool if you're willing to put yourself out there.