2 weeks in flower w/ a few issues

Issue #1 is her size. I have tied her down but still she rises! I am seeing stretch and she's only been in flower 2 weeks. When will she focus on buds and stop growing? Can I top her topmost tops? or could that stress cause her to herm?

Issue #2 is she is dropping leaves. She has some leaves turning yellow and dropping. This cannot be due to nutrient deficiency. She's well watered and is being fed adequate nutes.

Issue #3 is temp. I have 2 fans and ac on her but I'm still getting daytime temps of 82-85. Outside temps this week have been 90-100. I struggled with humidity in veg only to know have humidity that won't drop below 60 no matter what I do. Dehumidifier not helping. Do I simply need a larger dehumidifier?

The leaves and size are scaring me the most. She is dewy in the am due to the humidity. I notice it when I first open the tent after the lights come on.

Haaaaalp?!!
Many thanks in advance.

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1) she might get her act together as soon as her atmosphere is right. high temps can cause stretching, delayed/ill flowering for example

2)adequate?? could be too much, not enough, wrong feed, a lock out etc, but we need to know what goes in

3)control temps and rh or plants will fail. you need an adequate air conditioner and an adequate dehumidifier

Should stop stretching in another week so if you have a bit of room left you should be OK. Rather than top them try rolling/crushing the stems a few inches below the tops so the stem gets soft and the tops flop over. They will still bud up fine, even better in my experience, and the buds below will grow larger as they think they are the tops now. Getting the tops below horizontal makes the plant think it's been topped and I've never seen any herm because of it or because of topping during flowering either.

You need to dehumidify your intake air so it comes into the room dry. If the dehumidifier is in the room with your plants and the exhaust fan is drawing in fresh moist air the dehumidifier is only getting about 10% of the moisture out. Same with the A/C. Fresh air should pass thru the A/C unit before it enters the room to remove both heat and moisture.

Good luck.

OldMedUser said:

Should stop stretching in another week so if you have a bit of room left you should be OK. Rather than top them try rolling/crushing the stems a few inches below the tops so the stem gets soft and the tops flop over. They will still bud up fine, even better in my experience, and the buds below will grow larger as they think they are the tops now. Getting the tops below horizontal makes the plant think it's been topped and I've never seen any herm because of it or because of topping during flowering either.

You need to dehumidify your intake air so it comes into the room dry. If the dehumidifier is in the room with your plants and the exhaust fan is drawing in fresh moist air the dehumidifier is only getting about 10% of the moisture out. Same with the A/C. Fresh air should pass thru the A/C unit before it enters the room to remove both heat and moisture.

Good luck.

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Didn't consider what you said about the humidifier only pulling 10% of the air out...makes perfect sense. I see how I'm working against the dehumidifier. Going to have to think about my setup. In flower humidity should be <50% and temps <80 f correct? Only time I get temps below 80 on hot days is to keep the tent open which causes the light not to be as intense. Is the light sacrifice worth it?

In a room of 105 square feet. My 45 pint dehumidifier can pull 3 gallons of water in 24 hours. I use the hose off the back going into a 5 gallon bucket. The unit is raised off the floor a bit. Relative humidity outside the house in the 60% range. It won't dry the room but it maintains humidity levels in the 60,50, 45% range. Depending on % settings and fan speed. The room is cooled by a 5000btu. It doesn't dry a thing.

I've been pulling so much water out the air, I'm using it to water the plants.

TEC09 said:

Didn't consider what you said about the humidifier only pulling 10% of the air out...makes perfect sense. I see how I'm working against the dehumidifier. Going to have to think about my setup. In flower humidity should be <50% and temps <80 f correct? Only time I get temps below 80 on hot days is to keep the tent open which causes the light not to be as intense. Is the light sacrifice worth it?

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Can you not just open the door partly to keep most of it's reflective surface working for you?

SouthCross said:

I've been pulling so much water out the air, I'm using it to water the plants.

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I've seen a few grows where guys have rigged up covers for their air cons or dehumidifiers so any air going into the grow tent or room has to pass through them first. They set something up so the water is collected and gets reused which is something I'd do for sure as I buy all my RO water and it's getting expensive.

I'm lucky as my grow room is in the basement. More of a large crawl space than a basement proper. The grow room was built by the previous owner as a cold storage room and as soon as I saw it I wanted the house. It was all lined with shelves so I had to rip most of them out. All my room air is drawn from the rest of the basement which stays cool even in late summer so the air coming in is never over 70F. And the RH never gets over 50% or so down there in the summer. In the winter it gets down to 10% so I end up having to humidify the air.

I have a whole different set of issues to deal with than most. If I don't have enough heat from the lights then the heater has to run to keep temps up and if the RH and heat remain low then the exhaust fan rarely runs so the plants quickly run out of CO2 and growing slows or stops. So it's either run more lights or waste power with the heater. Of the two, more lights is the best route for me. Once I have the second grow room up and running then there will always be enough heat to balance things out, I hope.

I definitely need to look into CO2 supplementation. I have a tank and flow gauge but not a controller to do it properly. Money is tight so it's not like I can just go out and pick one up. I blew 2 grand on grow goodies since last Sept so all stocked up on nutes, grow media and all sorts of odds and ends. The light rail and trimmer were $300 each so that ate up a big chunk of that 2G.

The deeper you get into this grow thing the more it drains the bank account.

OldMedUser said:

I have a whole different set of issues to deal with than most. If I don't have enough heat from the lights then the heater has to run to keep temps up

The deeper you get into this grow thing the more it drains the bank account.

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Dear GOD I wish I had that problem!!!! I am having a bitch of a time with TOO MUCH heat from lights! I struggle to keep temps below 80. Humidity is in the high 90's when I open the tent in the am from sitting overnight. I wake up to moisture like a fine dew on my leaves. I feel you so deeply with regards to the expenses. I can think of something cannabis related I need every time money hits my pocket. If I had any kind of life savings it would be gone in the name of a grow room. My ideal setup I estimate will cost 60k.

As long as you can move all the pot you can grow with a 60K setup then it's well worth it but I'm just growing for myself. Might be selling the farm and heading out on my own in a year so want to stock up as I have no idea when I would next be able to grow. I'll be making a lot of oil just in case I, a friend or family member fall ill. Stuff should keep in the freezer for years. Takes about a pound to make a couple oz of oil and I want at least 6oz.

Do you not have an RH controller on your exhaust fan? The ones that work the bathroom fan work for exhaust fans too. Can put one together for $20 or so. I think you can buy a heat/RH controller for around $50 and then it will keep your RH down at night. Unless the RH in the incoming air is high too.

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As long as you can move all the pot you can grow with a 60K setup then it's well worth it but I'm just growing for myself. Might be selling the farm and heading out on my own in a year so want to stock up as I have no idea when I would next be able to grow. I'll be making a lot of oil just in case I, a friend or family member fall ill. Stuff should keep in the freezer for years. Takes about a pound to make a couple oz of oil and I want at least 6oz.

Do you not have an RH controller on your exhaust fan? The ones that work the bathroom fan work for exhaust fans too. Can put one together for $20 or so. I think you can buy a heat/RH controller for around $50 and then it will keep your RH down at night. Unless the RH in the incoming air is high too.

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You're looking to move? I am a single female,residing in Washington DC that has been seeking a room mate for a while. My issue has been finding someone 420 friendly. I own my home and cultivation is legal here. I would love to have someone knowledgeable around to help build a grow room and grow with me. I grow for profit. Trying to expand my op so that I can meet the demand. I am losing money because I cannot meet demand. Money everywhere out here. You can make as much money as you can grow.

Je suis Canadien!

I'll be most likely moving to BC from way up north in Alberta. Little town I call Bumf**k, AB.

I might just advertise to find a similar situation in the Okanagan where my mom and sisters live. I was out for 5 weeks last Aug to help my mom move out of her beautiful house on the hill overlooking the lake so have lost out on mom's basement to hang out and troll from. Lot of rich widows out there that might be interested in a 62 yo long-haired horny old hippy.

I just can't seem to get into growing for profit. I have a few friends that share in the harvests with "donations" that barely cover my power costs to grow it but I always have more than enough for myself and a variety of strains to medicate with in a variety of ways. I seriously don't think I could get into a production line type of grow operation unless it was to be the guy in charge of the nutes and chems. Finally get some use out of that chemistry diploma maybe. I have always lacked the ambition and competitiveness needed to succeed in business and don't have it in my heart to cheat an honest person. Procrastination is my oldest friend.

I hope you can find someone to fill the bill and thanks immensely for thinking of me. Should peruse some of the 420 friendly dating sites for a roomy or more but those things are a real crap shoot. Met my current woman on a dating site in Vancouver in '99 and look where I ended up.

Good luck.