C.Indica
Well-Known Member
Beautiful avatar.copy that good buddy keep your friends close and your lawyers on retainer...
Sorry to hear about the funk down there, but I know you've been in this mode many many times before.
Beautiful avatar.copy that good buddy keep your friends close and your lawyers on retainer...
See answers above. This is extremely risky from a legal standpoint. If you were ever interested in trying LED's or induction lighting, this would be the ideal settup.Hey CG, hows the grow?
Like I said before I'm really thinking of switching to hydro, and your story about the 9 plants per sq ft SOG is making the decision easier. Could you possibly elaborate on that grow for me if it's not too much trouble?
Was it easier or harder would you say, than dealing with less, LARGER plants? ...................Pain in the ass taking all the clones
Did you use any special nutrients or was the 3 part base plus a few select supplements kinda thing?.................At that time I was using GH 3 part only...don't get too hung up on nutes
What strain did you grow, and how would you say strain choice impacts the SOG? ...........Strain is always a huge factor
Could you grow any strain and just trim off all the side growth, or is it important to start with a plant that doesn't branch? .............Start with a strain you can sell....then make that fucker work for you
How tall did you plants get?.................Maybe 10"
Is it something you'd recommend to anyone or would you say it for more experienced growers?.............It's pretty easy. Take about 25% more clones than you need to get uniform height...toss the talls and the shorts.
How hard was it to get 7g a plant? Was it all popcorn buds or were they dense little colas?...........I removed all side branching and just gre single colas
7g dry is about an ounce wet right?..............I never weigh a plant wet. At that point it is what it is.
Sorry about all question man. If there was anything I could offer you I'd give it to you in a heartbeat lol.
I'm planning to buy the equipment to completely change my set up and I want to make sure I make the right choices.
I would hope we all are. Kitty, I really wouldn't answer that if I were you. Gives away too much info either way.Kitty, that looks awesome!! Question though, did you use a proxy service when you created your youtube and posted those videos?
CG-
Are you accurately measuring VPD?
Your humidity could be "all good" as far as growing books will tell you... But measuring RH is really not the best way to check the moisture situation in your grow.
The VPD is the thing to measure because it dictates when leaves are covered in a ...what did they call it...... moisture film or something along those lines... When there is this moisture film on the leaves, the mold is invited. This can happen when your AIR RH is 55 or lower...
Gotta run... just wanted to mention that before I forgot.
TO
Ahh, you mentioned the powdery mildew being a problem in your area even when RH is below 55%...VPD? Sounds like something you get from a hooker. I've always used RH with no problems. I keep the veg around 50-16% and the bloom right around 55%. Haven't had a speck of PM in 6 months. Thank god for Spectracide. One good spray 1 week into bloom is all it takes. I'm kind of confused as to why you're worried about my RH.
Collective Gardner
Hi there
Hope every thing is going good with you and yours. I had a quick question about the nutes you are using if you can spare the time please.
You were using Cutting Edge and then switched, a couple of months ago, to another for a test. Did you decide to make the switch permanent (and if so, what did you switch to?) or did you go back to CE? I use CE also and was wondering if you found another was better.
Thanks for replying.
Live long and thrive please to you and all those you hold dear.
David Grimm
Post whatever pics u like.THANKS so much for the prompt and VERY detailed reply. Your experience with CE and changes to different nutes will save me much time experimenting. I currently use CE but the only additive that I use is Bloombastic (which is like $700 for their largest bottle). I get decent but not great results so no point in me teaching my veg or bloom methods but my cloning is outstanding, simple enough for a simpleton like me and so easy to do it shouldn't even be classified as work.
Basically I clone with an EZ Cloner 60 site machine. I made 1 modification to the machine, I took out its air system and just put in a 2 stone air pump (Before I did this results were shitty) . I made this modification about 18 months ago. I overload it (90 cuttings), use municipal tap water and KLN as directed by its label. Plug the machine in (under a little POS flourescent light), wait 6-7 days and Presto at least 87-90 GREAT clones with lots of nice, white, large roots. Very "Set it and Forget it!" Roncoish. If you ever decide to look for a cloning alternative, I can recommend this method without reservation. I am gonna clone again in a couple of days so will take pictures then and again a week later. Then I'll post them here if thats OK. Let me know if thats not OK. I really don't know the accepted etiquette.
Once again, thanks for your quick and detailed reply. Hope everything goes great for you and yours.
David Grimm (nom de plume, BTW)
As another AN hater originally, I can say this, you will LOVE Liquid Carboload. Best carbohydrate product I have ever used.I've been avoiding this topic like the plague. A couple months ago I decided to try Advanced Nutrients. My local Hydro store gave me a buttload of the stuff to try out. Now, let me be clear, I am not a fan of that company. I think alot of what they say is BS, my good friend MellowKitty has friends who have been totally fucked over by them, and with the amount of money they spend on marketing it's hard to believe there's any left over for quality nutrients. That being said, the stuff gave me the best crop BY FAR that I've got from this grow op.
The plants were vegged using Cutting Edge. In bloom I started out with CONNOISSEUR as a base nute. I only had a 2 liter kit, so I switched to Sensi Bloom as a base about 3 weeks into bloom. The Connoisseur just seemed too expensive. For additives, I used Big Bud, Mothers Earth Bloom Tea, and Overdrive...all from AN. I also used Cutting Edge Mag Amp, Hydro International Roots and Final. The Big Bud is basically a bunch of potasium. When I run out I'll change to Kushi Kush because it is double the strength for a couple bucks more. The Overdrive is used at the end of the bloom. I used the Mag Amp because AN is heavy on K, and whenever you're running that much K, you run the risk of mag problems. Mag Amp is magnesium sulfate, with 1% magnesium. AN's magnesium sulfate products (Bud FactorX, Bud Candy) contain only .5% mag, and cost 3 times more than Mag Amp. Hydro International Yellow Bottle additives are very effective. I know there's a bunch of hoemones and shit many people don't like, but it works. The Roots is great for root developement. The Final is very strong. It is used a week or 2 before the flush, and just blows up the buds big time. I threw in the Mother's Earth Tea because the vast variety of organic ingredients. I thought it would be nice to toss my plants some organic food for a change.
The first thing I noticed as the plants got into bloom was the tighter node spacing. I mean ALOT tighter. I don't want to say twice as tight...but damn close. Then, as the bloom continued, the bud size was pretty bad ass. I'd say 25% bigger than with CE. The quality was great...about the same as CE...but we're growing a fantastic strain that you'd have to really fuck up to get bad quality. I'm still trimming and drying this batch, so I don't have the final yield numbers in yet. It looks like it will be at least a 30% increase over CE, though. I did get some necrosis on the leaf tips and margins, but it didn't effect the final product. I think I have that worked out on this next run.
The second run is just a week into bloom. No connoiser this time. It's Sensi Bloom from the start. I hope it wasn't the Connoiser that gave me the tight node spacing. If it was, my yield will suffer this run. I will say this...if it was the Connoiser that tightened up the node spacing, I'd have no problem paying the money to get that performance everytime. I also added the B-52 on this run. A friend said it made a big difference on his quality. The real challange with AN will be figuring out which additives really make a difference, and which are just snake oil. I believe that there's probably 2-3 additives that make 90% of the difference. I'll just keep adding them and removing them until I figure out which ones are the real money makers. There's no fucking way I'm going to use the 12 or so additives that AN would recommend to a be a Grand Masturbator Grower.
To sum it up, I'm done with CE. My buddy Commercial J (40,000 watt grow op) saw my crop and he's changing too. I believe that just Sensi Bloom would do better that Cutting Edge 3 part with the 3 additives. I loved CE, but the AN just gives far better results.
I've always felt that if you're not growing live soil organic, there's no need for carbs to feed a microherd that isn't there. This is the same reason I wouldn't use AN's Pirahna, Tarantula, and any other bio's in the line. I have tried to mix chem nutes with myco's, fungi, and bacterias (along with carbs to feed them all) with zero improvements. But, when growing live soil organic, these additives are the life blood of the medium. I think that these additives should be classified in AN's Organic line. I also question AN's repetition of magnesium sulfate in Bud Candy and Bud Factor X (and I think one more). Maybe there's more to these than the mag sulfate listed, but they really should say so. Instead of paying $92 for a liter of Bud Factor X (with just ,5% mag), I went with my old standby Cutting Edge Mag Amp with 1% mag at $25/liter.As another AN hater originally, I can say this, you will LOVE Liquid Carboload. Best carbohydrate product I have ever used.