20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

YouGrowBoy

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One side benefit of sealing the op is all the new free water! Between the A/C and the 2 dehumidifiers, I'm making about 40 gallons/day. My average water usage per day is around 60 gallons. Basically, we're recycling 2/3 of our water. That's awsome.
The water these guys make, is that RO water or do you have to filter it in some way to use for feeding?
 

curious2garden

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I made some great observations. As you know we just added CO2. There were crops at around 2 week and around 3-4 weeks when we added it. The 3-4 week crop isn't showing much difference. However, the crop that was only 1 week is looking radical. The CO2 seems to make the biggest differe3nce early in bloom...not later as I would've suspected (by later I mean weeks 3-5).
That is some interesting information. Way above my head currently. But an interesting factoid to squirrel away, thanks.

One side benefit of sealing the op is all the new free water! Between the A/C and the 2 dehumidifiers, I'm making about 40 gallons/day. My average water usage per day is around 60 gallons. Basically, we're recycling 2/3 of our water. That's awsome.
Boy was I taken by surprise by the amount of water flowering plants consume and transpire! At the end of my first grow I was going through 1/2gallon/day per plant! Which meant in 5 days I had completely replaced my NFT reservoir. Even with that I was not even close to ready for the water commitment that a drain to waste requires. I felt sorry for myself at a measly 2 gallons/day! Now I'm feeling like I'm part water wheel. Those suckers are VERY thirsty.

CG can you tell me how you clone your Bubba's? My 2 Bubba's from seed don't have any side growth!
Thank you as usual :)
Annie
 

collective gardener

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so........ whatcha wearin'? *lewd eyebrows* LMFAO. Yeah baby. Yesterday's BVD's, a stained wife beater, Cat Diesel ball cap, and a mouth full of Skoal tobacco, as I sit at the table listening to crying kids and screaming wife. It's good to have land and a double wide trailer. Life is good. Mowed the lawn yesterday and found a car! Hell yeah. Wife lost a bunch of weight and is down to 225. She had that growth removed too, so her female parts look almost normal now. Yeah baby. Gotta run. Goat just walked through the screen door and shit all over little bubba in his walker.

:lol:
Hey cg, I'm curious on how your feeding schedule came out when you were using connoisseur in-between feedings? Atleast I remember reading something about that, lol. I just stepped up to sensi bloom an started usin co2.
Not a real clear question.

The water these guys make, is that RO water or do you have to filter it in some way to use for feeding?
That water is basically distilled.

That is some interesting information. Way above my head currently. But an interesting factoid to squirrel away, thanks.



Boy was I taken by surprise by the amount of water flowering plants consume and transpire! At the end of my first grow I was going through 1/2gallon/day per plant! Which meant in 5 days I had completely replaced my NFT reservoir. Even with that I was not even close to ready for the water commitment that a drain to waste requires. I felt sorry for myself at a measly 2 gallons/day! Now I'm feeling like I'm part water wheel. Those suckers are VERY thirsty.

CG can you tell me how you clone your Bubba's? My 2 Bubba's from seed don't have any side growth!
Thank you as usual :)
Annie
Just cut off the top. She'll get sideways then.
 

curious2garden

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Just cut off the top. She'll get sideways then.
Thanks! That seems so obvious but I keep reading stuff about auxins, node placement being even or offset, all making cloning more complex than it really is. I think sometimes I get lost in trying to hard to understand when sometimes it's better to just do it and learn from the response.
 

InsaneMJ

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Sorry, I ment was your yield higher when your ran your nutes like that? Or is it just better to stick to one or the other?
 

collective gardener

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Thanks! That seems so obvious but I keep reading stuff about auxins, node placement being even or offset, all making cloning more complex than it really is. I think sometimes I get lost in trying to hard to understand when sometimes it's better to just do it and learn from the response.

Number one mistake growers of all experience make is not KEEPING IT SIMPLE!!! The best thing you can do for clone success is to have a healthy mother.

As to your earlier comment about us going to rockwool while we just got you on Sunshine, stick with the sunshine #4 and perlite. After you have successfully grown several crops with sunshine, you can try out coco. Then, and only then, you can try rockwool. It's like driving a race car. Sunshine is a go kart. Aeroponics is a Formula One. You would want to have some experience before you move into the more performance oriented mediums. Each successive medium has more potential...potential to produce big yields AND potential to kill the whole crop.
 

TheLastWood

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Sup CG? Been a while! Just readin about what u said about co2 being most useful early in flower. I find the same thing to be true with bloom boosters. I use my bloom booster when I first see buds forming, when I see clusters of pistils. Usually 10-14 days from flippin em.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
I know this is an response to old post but the purple plant shown in post #775 appears to be Sweet Purple from Paradise seeds. I have grown that strain for about 6 years now and if you grow in soil it gets that dark purple color and if temps drop it will go almost black. In aero or hydro it has a light lavender color with pink hairs. It has 2 pheno types one smells and tatses like strawberry or mixed berry. The other is a a more pungent almost cffee smell in the jar but when smoked it has a hashy taste.
 

collective gardener

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I know this is an response to old post but the purple plant shown in post #775 appears to be Sweet Purple from Paradise seeds. I have grown that strain for about 6 years now and if you grow in soil it gets that dark purple color and if temps drop it will go almost black. In aero or hydro it has a light lavender color with pink hairs. It has 2 pheno types one smells and tatses like strawberry or mixed berry. The other is a a more pungent almost cffee smell in the jar but when smoked it has a hashy taste.

Thank you so much for the info. Our pheno fits the Coffee smell/Hashy taste you've described. I can add that it was a stout plant that withstood a winter blooming without stress. I'm not sure I've seen that strain grown indoors in a hydro settup. However, my good friend grows it year around in her outdoor garden/greenhouse settup. She's Live Soil Organic and that strain always goes purple, but never quite as dark as when I grew it. This is because she uses the greenhouse in cold weather, and I just let nature take its course outside.

I'm not a big fan of purples, but if you're growing purp for market, you might as well cool down the bloom and go REALLY PURPLE.
 
I'm not sure what your point is. Plant count is very important. Yes I have grown as many as 9 plants per sq ft before. Yes, NINE. And yes that was some serious yield per sq foot. If I did that in current op my total plant count would be around 3200. Let's look at Fed Law: Under 99 plants: No Mandatory Minimum Sentence. 99-999 plants: 5 year Mandatory Minimum Sentence. 999 Plants to 9999 Plants: 10 Year Mandatory Minimum Sentence.

So, my choice is to grow at around 75% max potential and stay under any mandatory minimum prison sentence, OR, grow at 100% potential and get 10 years even if the judge was my dad. Hmmmmmm. Buddy, I've done my prison time with the feds.

As for the comment of I'm fucked anyway. You're totally wrong on that. My buddy was just visited by the cops at his op down the street from mine. His op is twice my size. After a 2 day investigation with 6 detectives, they determined he was within State Laew and left. He's dealing with some costly code violations, but that's it. We have the same attorney who set us up the same way.

I don't really need to hear about how I'll be fucked. I've been fucked...and fucked good. There will be no more fucking here. I don't need to hear that I could get more yield with more plants. I am fully aware of that. I wrote it at least a dozen times in this thread. So what exactly are you trying to say? I'm full of shit cause any 20 yr grow vet would be growing 500 plants in an op this size? Sorry, that's for 10 year vets. 20 yr ex convict vets know better.
After a 2 day investigation are there any tips your friend might be able to pass along through you to other legal Cali collectives so they can stay out of trouble?
 

collective gardener

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After a 2 day investigation are there any tips your friend might be able to pass along through you to other legal Cali collectives so they can stay out of trouble?
It's the same advice our lawyers told us: No hard drugs, no big cash, no guns, far from kids, good accounting records, a good patient to plant count ratio.
 

collective gardener

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Nice op cg! AnywY I can get my hands on some of your pre 98 bubba I'm legal and in the LA area?
Once in a while Hollyweed has some. I don't know how you'd make sure it was ours. I'm currently talking with another dispensary that may be carrying our strains fulltime. I will post if they decide to. Otherwise it all goes to our members. Unfortunately our membership is very private. You must be sponsored by an existing member to even be considered. The average age of our members is mid 40's, and all of us have serious health problems. Basically, we choose the members that we would want in the courtroom should we ever be in legal trouble.
 

dapio

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Once in a while Hollyweed has some. I don't know how you'd make sure it was ours. I'm currently talking with another dispensary that may be carrying our strains fulltime. I will post if they decide to. Otherwise it all goes to our members. Unfortunately our membership is very private. You must be sponsored by an existing member to even be considered. The average age of our members is mid 40's, and all of us have serious health problems. Basically, we choose the members that we would want in the courtroom should we ever be in legal trouble.
Hehe the doing of your clever attorney very nice. Obviously he plans on completely destroying the prosecution, hell the DA would probably just throw your case out just because of the time it would take to actually find anything worth telling to a jury lol. From time of arrest,and interrogation. To arraignment,pretrial, and trial.

I admire how your living CG true genius. Hows your health bro? Do you suffer any anxiety? I always wonder how it would be to have that type of weight on my shoulders.
 

ProAce

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Once in a while Hollyweed has some. I don't know how you'd make sure it was ours. I'm currently talking with another dispensary that may be carrying our strains fulltime. I will post if they decide to. Otherwise it all goes to our members. Unfortunately our membership is very private. You must be sponsored by an existing member to even be considered. The average age of our members is mid 40's, and all of us have serious health problems. Basically, we choose the members that we would want in the courtroom should we ever be in legal trouble.
thanks man good info, let us know when and if the dispensary will have it.
 

collective gardener

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Hehe the doing of your clever attorney very nice. Obviously he plans on completely destroying the prosecution, hell the DA would probably just throw your case out just because of the time it would take to actually find anything worth telling to a jury lol. From time of arrest,and interrogation. To arraignment,pretrial, and trial.

I admire how your living CG true genius. Hows your health bro? Do you suffer any anxiety? I always wonder how it would be to have that type of weight on my shoulders.

I used to worry alot, but not anymore. What good does it do? We've done all we can to protect ourselves. Now it's just a matter of luck.
 

Wolverine97

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Long time, brother. You have any new pics of your op?
Yes it has been. I'm still on the no pics kick, paranoia has a way of consuming portions of my existence. So while I don't have pics, the new op is seriously nice. Not quite as nice (or large) as yours, but nice nonetheless. I'm still running most of my staple strains, and have added several new varieties that are showing lots of promise. The laws out here are still being clarified, there's a lot of grey areas, so I still try to be very careful. On the plus side, I just got a box of Cali Connection gear (the whole lineup) for free, so I'll be testing out some new strains shortly.

Hope all continues to go well for you, stay safe.
 
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