2000 watt hps with 6 plant limit

I'm setting a buddy up with his first grow.


I guess mentoring in a sense , as I'll be getting a 50/50 split on the first harvest


After that he's content on doing it on his own , which is his decision , and if


his money is right enough to get the equipment and he kept a good eye on the simple


things I did he shouldn't have any problem.


My experience - Well I'm a half assed grower. I just never had the passion for it as with other things but I'm not a noob by any stretch , just leaps
and bounds away from where I should be. I have to become passionate about something to really dig in and for some reason up to this point it hasn't done it for me.
Lately though I've been way more into it , Having friends help me out , switching from years of soil to hydro. Finally getting top shelf genetics and just
honestly having a desire to improve. Before it was just so unpredictable , I was easily pulling slightly over 1lb per 1000 wattts of light for quite a few grows but then I'd fall back and only pull 3/4 per 1000 watts , at times things getting as bad as getting only 8 ounces per 1000 watt .So what I've been doing is reaching out to others who want to start rooms but are intimidated and I've been getting them started.
Keeps my brain moving and constantly reminding myself of things i know that are right , and make clear to those im helping but don't follow my own advice , which I'll
overcome. Anyway what a ramble here.


We will have


2 - 1000w setups

1 4 bulb t5 (we have 6 good sized clones in 3 gallons under this now)


1 8 bulb t5 will be introduced soon , possibly another.






The plan is 10 gallon pots. 3 under each light. If we had the option to do say 12 plants
I'd gladly do them in 5 gallons but I'd like to make use of the 2 1000 watt lights.


Plan is to have a fairly prolonged Veg cycle , they were about 8 inches when put into the
3 gallons and either likely transplant straight to the 10 gallons when I bring my other T5 over in the coming weeks.
Give them about 2-1/2 full months of veg cycle. He's in a rush and wants to know how we can get it quicker but given he doesn't have any of his own lights or 6 more clones yet to fill his max medical slots this longer veg will give him the time to get that going so he can have a perpetual harvest.


I've grown tons of 3 gal soil(20? maybe) pots unde 1000 watts , moderate amounts of 5gal to 7gal soil(usually 6)
I've just recently switched to 5 gallon DWC hydro grow and my standard is 6 5gal DWC bucks under each 1000w setups , 5 under my 600watt setups


as far as big pots go I've only had 1 grow.


It with 15 gallon pots , each under a 600w. Only pulled about 15 ounces total.
That being said i wasn't to bummed. During the veg cycle i had a huge basement flood.
I'm sure this effected there veg growth as they were just soaked to no other and
from my understanding during veg to much water will deter the roots from growing.
Not to mention i think 1-1000 would of did the trick , or i could of put a 400 in place of the other 6. Hell they may of fit
both under 1 6 , they were big but i think they would have had reached that potential in 10 gallons as well , and a near 16 ounce yield off a 6 I'd of been very happy,
I think under normal conditions I could have had a nicer yield , but that's neither
here nor there. Basically said that to make a point that I'm not experienced with
pots over 7 gallons. Either way I found dealling with less plants much more managable.
From the daily work needed to the trimming process (20g buds all over the place , which
is likely standard from some of your green thumbs but something i'd never seen dealing with 3-5 gal
soil grows in the past) So I'd like to learn more about using less plants but getting similar if not better results


Wondering if anyone has any inputs or suggestions on what my best course of action is
regarding pot size if were limited to 6 plants under 2 1000 hps. I have no problem
giving them a 2 1/2 month veg. To compare it to my usual big grow I tend to put
6 5 gallon DWC buckets under each 1000 and 5 under my 600s.


So in simple terms 6 plants x 5 gallons is 30 gallons of medium under the 1000
in my standard grow , and 3 plants in 10 gallon pots under 1000 is identical.


Being my own grow is hydro and this is soil it's kind of apples to oranges , but
my thoughts are from the prologned veg time these guys should be monsters by the time
there ready to flower.


Sorry for the long post


here's the TLDR


Have to stay within 6 plants , which will go under 2- 1000w HPS


To maximixe profect what size pots should i go with.


As of now the decision is 10gallons , 3 under each , given a bit extra veg time


(clones came as about 8 inches in solo cups , right into 3 gallons and yet to decide


if I'll go to 5 gallons or jump right to 10 gallons after the 3's.


We purchased roots organic soil and while I'm strictly hydro these days I remember


stuff like roots organic , happy frog ETC tended to promote faster growth compared


to the store brand or pro mix type stuff i always bought.




I'll be bending (not sure correct term) throughout veg to keep the plant bushy and


promote new growth / tops.




TLDR VERSION


2 1000W hps
6 PLANT LIMIT
TOP NOTCH SOIL
NICE SIZED CLONES STUCK IN 3 GAL POTS AS OF YESTERDAY
WILLING TO VEG 2-2.5 MONTHS


So the question more or less is how would you go about have a 6 plant limit but
2000 watts to play with (2x1000watt). Mainly pot size suggestions or any other helpful
critiqes.








Last but not least , Assuming the community welcomes me , I'll try my best to stick around


At the very least I'll do a grow log with this , maybe not do daily updates here but


I'll keep a notebook and plenty of pictures.

pyAnd sorry my posts are so long winded , i find by typing i get more clarity out of the thoughts in my head. I'll be sure to add TLDR to any other posts I start. Hopefully it doesn't negatively effect people offering responses due to what can sometimes lead to a ramble or not getting to the point. I suppose this serves as an introduction as well. I'd love to start logs and have people give tips.

To compare growing to something i was passionate about , poker. Before the bands i made good money playing online. A living off it I'd consider. But without the passion I'd of always been mediocore. I excelled because I spent lots of time problem solving , going over hands , putting in lots of playing hours , reading books , reviewing hands with friends and posting on forums. Why I never did this when it came to growing is beyond me. While poker was legal to play online in the states that consumed to much of my time to really focus on this so I just did the bare minimum and now I'm paying for it with results that I think are way below what I should have considering I've been at this for 4 years.

That being said I'm going to put in a whole lot more effort into reading the forums , figuring out who the green thumbs are and studying what they are doing , read there logs , read there posts etc , as well as post , mainly logs as it seems you get a lot of feedback that way or ideas/problems you didn't notice can be brought to my attention at which point I can seek out a remedy. So look forward to my future logs (I have about 4-5 grows in th mix , some as a mentor / partner , a couple of my own , and one helping my dad get his first room up and running. So as long as others aren't weary about me taking pictures I'll try my best to get 1 or 2 started since i think logging each would be overwhelming.

As hard as it is to believe , i promise you won't have to put up with my long winded rants if i make a general , it will be kept strictly scientific , with maybe a mini pyschedelic trip report thrown in here or there if i can't help myself!

Scrog!!!!top, fim,supercrop

mr sunshine said:

Scrog!!!!top, fim,supercrop

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Ahhh great thinking. I've never Did SCROG , but only because (from what I read) it's not really doable with a perpetual grow , if what i just said is true , this being the first ever cycle that really hold no weight. I'm going to research the crap out of SCROG now.

Do you know how big the plants are going to be in 10 gallon pots? They are going to be trees. The 1k won't even penetrate the whole plant so the bottom half will be basically nothing for buds.. I say make them half the size so the 1k can penetrate deeper into the plant. Or go vertical bare bulb that's a option too. Coco hempys are nice aswell.

im doing coco hempys pics are in journal I got the coco hempys in 3 gallon pots and they are about 3ft tall. I'm expecting around 4-5 ft by the time flowering stretch is done. Not sure how long they were vegged lol.

What's up with the 6 plant limit, are you in Colorado? It sounds like you are growing with him, so I say put 12 plants in there. If he wants to grow by himself, I'm sure he can find another friend to grow with him and get him 6 more plants...

its michigan , 12 plant limit for card holder unless he caregives , he wants to go perpetual so while we flower he has 6 vegging. I'm strongly considering SCROG


thing is i do have 6 i could take over there now , and in like 10 days they be ok for flower (like 1.5ft but not very bushy) , they were huge clones out a cloner bucket leftovers so we put them to soil but they took like 10 days to snap back , there looking fine now , on the verge of new growth. think id rather do the scrog with the 6 little ones we have still , just hurry and flower the 6 i can bring to him and then that's perfect time for him to start his other 6 vegging given scrog is damn near 4 months away

The key to big yields indoors is training. You've got to spread the canopy out to maximize light use. Personally I don't like screens because I like to be able to move the plants around but to have 3 plants fill the footprint of a 1kW you're going to need to support them somehow. If you flip one light at a time you can stagger the harvests and still keep your canopy even without much extra work.

well i find that 4 5g pots its almost too much for 1k watt light if veg'd for more than 6 weeks imo. id do 2 in 10g pots veg'd 8 weeks under a 1k maybe 3 due to being beside another 1k light where they get light from each on the edge.