hoonry thankyou and yes it has been nice to have all this room it is a first for me ,i have always had to grow in tight spots and being able to walk all the way around has been cool.The plants are so bushy because they have all been pinched atleast once and the super round ones have been pinched topped whatever you want to call several times on every branch.I do not normaly do that as i like big huge trees but it took the state of Or,two and a half months to do my growsite address change from my home to my property so they were on my pool deck for way to long and were getting to big for my backyard and to transport so i started topping and this is the result hedges insted of trees ,still pretty cool though.