2015 statistics on death by cop.

see4

see4

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bravedave said:
Ok retard, I tried to let you slither away with the knowledge that I had you pegged but instead you try to double down behind your meaningless bullshit. Not surprising, your reluctance to explain your mythical positive takeaways. But...now I think that maybe you actually think the data you present is actually mathematically favorable to your point of view. If that is the case I apologize for picking on someone who obviously has some brain damage. Originally, I read your "fact" filled post, laughed at its silliness and moved on, but to keep you from bursting a vein in your forehead I will point out your shortcomings...tired though so I will just address your first little leap



First please remember as we move foreword that here you try to use the total populations as tools for your point. Here your invention (and this is assuming your numbers are not fabricated) is that cops kill blacks at a higher rate than whites as a % to the total population. Your claim comes smothered in weak sauce. The numbers do not tell a story of racism by cop but is more an indictment of blacks more often putting themselves in a position to get shot by police. Lol. It could just as easily be construed from this data that white people lead more law-abiding lives.
Bottom line is for your warped point to have legs you would have to be include the premise that the police are going out of their way to shoot blacks. Is that what you are trying to say? Sorry, thats not happening and as we move foreword through the rest of your illogic we will show that too. Speaking of rest, goodnight..
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bravedave said:
Next...oh my goodness, Retard. Seriously, when I put your logic next to your math I wonder if I am arguing with an 8 year old. What clouds your abilities? Crack baby?So anyway to your "facts"...

First, I find it a bit strange that fbi.gov would portray numbers this way. Why would they include hispanics in both columns? Maybe an idiot would fathom that it effectively eliminates the question as to where they should be put...how about in their own column? I personally can only imagine that its done for optics as I assume th numbers cause the white % to rise above 60% and the black total to fall below 40%. Just saying that if you even had a point to begin with (you don't) 59-41 looks like less of a disparity than 61-39. Nice try, but here again you seem to think that "proportionally" this is in your favor. Using your own 13% of the population value...should we not see the final tally be closer to that number. Of course we should, but instead you try to portray this like the populations are even. They are not. So what this really shows is that blacks are committing violent crime at a rate, at least, 3x higher than their population should portend. Looking at a couple of your statistics...
10093 murders "proportionally" should show us 1300 or so murders by blacks and yet it shows they actually commit, not 13%, but 51% of the murders. And this somehow is backing for your point that they whites commit "proportionally" more crime??? Ummmm... No, it doesn't. Just the opposite, Retard. Even if I take your numbers for assault, which on the surface seem disproportionate, still show blacks exceeding their proportional alottment by over 20%.

The only thing funnier than you presenting these numbers as if its a defense of black criminality is seeing the idiots who believe your post does that. Hard to imagine that much stupidity exists in one group arguing in one thread. You have a chart for that? Lol.

Off to work...have a great day.
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Cool stories bro. But you didn't even come close to rebutting the statistical facts presented by fbi.gov. Nice try though. And too bad your incoherent ramblings were both tldr; and a complete waste of time.
 
bravedave

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see4 said:
Cool stories bro. But you didn't even come close to rebutting the statistical facts presented by fbi.gov. Nice try though. And too bad your incoherent ramblings were both tldr; and a complete waste of time.
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Lol.
Ok, so now your only hope is that others don't recognize your backpedaling. Fortunately, I don't care about anyone who would be stupid enough to think your posts have merit...it is enough for me to know that the sandwich I made for you caused you to choke and that I left you naked waving your tiny little meaningless dick.
 
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see4

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bravedave said:
Lol.
Ok, so now your only hope is that others don't recognize your backpedaling. Fortunately, I don't care about anyone who would be stupid enough to think your posts have merit...it is enough for me to know that the sandwich I made for you caused you to choke and that I left you naked waving tiny little meaningless dick.
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Backpedaling of what? Geezus you are delusional.

I presented RIU with facts cited DIRECTLY FROM FBI.GOV. All you've done so far is dance around the facts and call me names. You've NEVER, NOT ONCE, addressed the facts I presented RIU.

You are useless. Go to bed.
 
bravedave

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see4 said:
Backpedaling of what? Geezus you are delusional.

I presented RIU with facts cited DIRECTLY FROM FBI.GOV. All you've done so far is dance around the facts and call me names. You've NEVER, NOT ONCE, addressed the facts I presented RIU.

You are useless. Go to bed.
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And from the beginning I have pointed out that your facts are meaningless, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU FOUND THEM...and only serve to disprove that which you attempt to portray. Nice try, asswagon.
 
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see4

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bravedave said:
And from the beginning I have pointed out that your facts are meaningless, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU FOUND THEM...and only serve to disprove that which you attempt to portray. Nice try, asswagon.
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You are silly. Nobody takes you seriously.

If you choose to believe the facts I presented to you are meaningless that is 100% your prerogative. However that does not mean what I present is any less factual. It's not my fault you choose to put your head up your ass. I merely presented a set of facts to RIU, do with those what you will.

You've done nothing since my presenting of facts but name call and talk in circles. You've not once countered the claims, nor do I think you have any ambition to do so. You're here simply to look stupid and act like a racist troll. You're doing a great job of that so far. Keep it up chump.
 
bravedave

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see4 said:
You are silly. Nobody takes you seriously.

If you choose to believe the facts I presented to you are meaningless that is 100% your prerogative. However that does not mean what I present is any less factual. It's not my fault you choose to put your head up your ass. I merely presented a set of facts to RIU, do with those what you will.

You've done nothing since my presenting of facts but name call and talk in circles. You've not once countered the claims, nor do I think you have any ambition to do so. You're here simply to look stupid and act like a racist troll. You're doing a great job of that so far. Keep it up chump.
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Glad we finally can agree that your facts, no matter their source or even their correctness do not portray any actual racist non-black behavior but instead only perpetuates your deception to the contrary. Funny or sad that the only ones deceived seem to be your butt-buddies.
 
see4

see4

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bravedave said:
Glad we finally can agree that your facts, no matter their source or even their correctness do not portray any actual racist non-black behavior but instead only perpetuates your deception to the contrary. Funny or sad that the only ones deceived seem to be your butt-buddies.
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I'm claiming neither. I merely showed the statistical facts presented by fbi.gov. You are choosing to ignore them or choosing to interpret them in a way to favor an opinion you have. "or even their correctness..." -- ie. you don't believe the information presented to you. Which is why I asked you to present contrary information, which you've yet to do, and I doubt ever will.
 
Fogdog

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Bugeye said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

Interesting article. Bias found in police use of force on blacks, but not in shootings.
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This and a few other articles show the same story. As with those other studies, look at the source of information -- what the cop filed in their report. The statistics on use of force involved people who lived to tell their side of the story. Fatal shootings, not so much. Numbers in the form of statistics don't lie but the people who provide the data most certainly can. Lies, distortions or missing information are less likely when there is another person to tell the tale.

Perhaps you can explain why the higher rates of force aren't related to higher rates of fatal shootings? Could the reason be that the data are biased by what the shooter-cop puts in the report? And not entirely my opinion either. Many other studies show there are many more fatal shootings of black people by cops than of white people. These are broader based population studies and not subject to biased reporting.
 
Fogdog

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Also, too, there is this ending that puts another perspective in play that is completely separate from the cop shooting factoid that Bugeye focused on:

As an economist, Mr. Fryer wonders if the difference between lethal force — where he did not find racial disparities — and nonlethal force — where he did — might be related to costs. Officers face great costs, legal and psychological, when they unnecessarily fire their weapons. But excessive use of lesser force is rarely tracked or punished. “No officer has ever told me that putting their hands on inner-city youth is a life-changing event,” he said, contrasting the consequences of shootings and lesser uses of force.

For Mr. Fryer, who has spent much of his career studying ways society can close the racial achievement gap, the failure to punish excessive everyday force is an important contributor to young black disillusionment.

“Who the hell wants to have a police officer put their hand on them or yell and scream at them? It’s an awful experience,” he said. “I’ve had it multiple, multiple times. Every black man I know has had this experience. Every one of them. It is hard to believe that the world is your oyster if the police can rough you up without punishment. And when I talked to minority youth, almost every single one of them mentions lower level uses of force as the reason why they believe the world is corrupt.”
 
Fogdog

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bravedave said:
And from the beginning I have pointed out that your facts are meaningless, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU FOUND THEM...and only serve to disprove that which you attempt to portray. Nice try, asswagon.
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see4 said:
You are silly. Nobody takes you seriously.

You're here simply to look stupid and act like a racist troll. You're doing a great job of that so far. Keep it up chump.
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That about sums it up, see4. I might just keep that quote and repeat it back endlessly to Dave.
 
bravedave

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see4 said:
I'm claiming neither. I merely showed the statistical facts presented by fbi.gov. You are choosing to ignore them or choosing to interpret them in a way to favor an opinion you have. "or even their correctness..." -- ie. you don't believe the information presented to you. Which is why I asked you to present contrary information, which you've yet to do, and I doubt ever will.
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Why would I bother to refute information that validates what I already know and agree with, your Thickness?
 
see4

see4

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bravedave said:
Why would I bother to refute information that validates what I already know and agree with, your Thickness?
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bravedave said:
You should avoid trying to teach. If the % of violent crimes committed broken down by race ran along the same numbers as the overall population, you would have a point.
It doesn't, you don't. So instead you have to turn to something that cannot be shown by the facts. Pull over your asswagon is showing.
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bravedave said:
While the inane here want to tell us that the biggest problems blacks have are white cops, it is really the fact that 75% of black births are out of wedlock.
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see4 said:
Black population is roughly 13.2% of the total US population, or roughly 42,095,000 individuals.
White population is roughly 77.35% of the total US population, or roughly 246,650,000 individuals.

Approximately 0.000202% of the white population was murdered by police.
Approximately 0.000603% of the black population was murdered by police, or roughly 3x the white population.

1.5 star thread. I'm giving half a star for trying.
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see4 said:
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Actually no. Proportionally, white people commit more crimes. They also commit more violent crimes.

Racism has clouded your perception and ability to learn.
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You are so silly. Your troll game is weak. Try harder.
 
UncleBuck

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bravedave said:
its a defense of black criminality
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what the fuck does skin color have to do with criminality?

it has already been well established that crime is most closely tied to socioeconomic status.

there is no magical property of melanin that leads one to be more or less criminal, that is a belief that only white supremacists like yourself hold.

btw, you suck at growing and your penis is tiny.
 
bravedave

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see4 said:
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You are so silly. Your troll game is weak. Try harder.
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Even a weak game beats your attempts at deception. In any case, thanks for providing the information that shows that blacks put themselves in the positions that force police interaction more often while also providing the facts that show blacks are involved in a disproportionate number of violent crimes. Now think about it real hard and you will see how they are related.
 
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see4

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bravedave said:
Even a weak game beats your attempts at deception. In any case, thanks for providing the information that shows that blacks put themselves in the positions that force police interaction more often while also providing the facts that show blacks are involved in a disproportionate number of violent crimes. Now think about it real hard and you will see how they are related.
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lol. you are so silly. and boring. and racist.
 
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