2019 Election Talk

dienowk said:

It disgusts me how protected they are, they can kidnap and assassinate people with no recourse, instead countries make excuses for them or simply say the intel from literally every intel agency on the planet is wrong. I have nothing against the people there but fuck their ruling class.

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"First you get the money, then you get the power" .That's pretty much it in a nutshell

Skatch420 said:

The party the media are not covering is Maxime Bernier & The People's Party of Canada and if they do it's subpar or negative... The platform is logical and common sense Centrist and not at all racist.
Do your own research
Think for yourself
Wakeup

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well said..!!!

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

well said..!!!

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Except none of it is factual.
Do your own research.
The election campaign staff at one of the PPC election offices quit en masse because of rampant racism and bigotry so the "not at all racist" comment is a lie. He is further Right that the whackjob Scheer, to the point of being a white nationalist extremist. I haven't heard anything approaching "common sense" come out of Bernier or any of his flunky's. Maybe that's why they are polling a 2.5% of the vote....?
The PPC is a one and done - if Bernier wins his seat, and that's doubtful, he will have less say than an independent. But go ahead and vote for Mad Max...every vote for them is one less for Little Andy.
We're looking for a Liberal/Green government.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Except none of it is factual.
Do your own research.
The election campaign staff at one of the PPC election offices quit en masse because of rampant racism and bigotry so the "not at all racist" comment is a lie. He is further Right that the whackjob Scheer, to the point of being a white nationalist extremist. I haven't heard anything approaching "common sense" come out of Bernier or any of his flunky's. Maybe that's why they are polling a 2.5% of the vote....?
The PPC is a one and done - if Bernier wins his seat, and that's doubtful, he will have less say than an independent. But go ahead and vote for Mad Max...every vote for them is one less for Little Andy.
We're looking for a Liberal/Green government.

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Ah yes because poll numbers have never been used as propoganda to dissuade voters before.....oh wait. Don't forget the very media bringing you that tripe got a BIG FAT bailout paycheck to the tune of 590+ MILLION dollars. Why bite the hand that feeds after all?

Why do you also think they created and chose groups to control what they see fit as fake news or not? Because what they do IS NOT journalism, they try and present their opinions as facts. Real journalism presents facts OBJECTIVELY and let's the reader decide for themselves .Not steer the conversation in the direction that favors their personal beliefs. The sooner people wake up and realize that the better off we'll all be.

Also, by your logic if one person within a group does something wrong you then personally decide to paint that whole group as the same and condemn them all. That's textbook descrimination and you can't even see it. It's also a lazy way to shut down conversation and is also a play straight out of the communist manifesto. Hmmmm what other people label people as groups instead of individuals?.........

VIANARCHRIS said:

Except none of it is factual.
Do your own research.
The election campaign staff at one of the PPC election offices quit en masse because of rampant racism and bigotry so the "not at all racist" comment is a lie. He is further Right that the whackjob Scheer, to the point of being a white nationalist extremist. I haven't heard anything approaching "common sense" come out of Bernier or any of his flunky's. Maybe that's why they are polling a 2.5% of the vote....?
The PPC is a one and done - if Bernier wins his seat, and that's doubtful, he will have less say than an independent. But go ahead and vote for Mad Max...every vote for them is one less for Little Andy.
We're looking for a Liberal/Green government.

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Mad Max has 1 or 2 good ideas, they aren't worth voting in a white nationalist movement but if another party was going to work on interprovincial trade I would not be upset.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Except none of it is factual.
Do your own research.
The election campaign staff at one of the PPC election offices quit en masse because of rampant racism and bigotry so the "not at all racist" comment is a lie. He is further Right that the whackjob Scheer, to the point of being a white nationalist extremist. I haven't heard anything approaching "common sense" come out of Bernier or any of his flunky's. Maybe that's why they are polling a 2.5% of the vote....?
The PPC is a one and done - if Bernier wins his seat, and that's doubtful, he will have less say than an independent. But go ahead and vote for Mad Max...every vote for them is one less for Little Andy.
We're looking for a Liberal/Green government.

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Hope y'all dont miss our transfer payments!!! In all honesty, if it weren't for the libs backing a lot of this SJW bs and spending money like it's coming out of their ass maybe I wouldn't have such a huge problem with them. Or if they didn't jeopardize our borders by letting upwards of 25,000 undocumented immigrants into our country from a region thats ridden with western world hating terrorists. He probably could have skipped the part where he makes an ass of our country every chance he can get.
Not a huge deal, but i like how if you misgender a 6" tall body builder in a pink dress (because how tf are you supposed to know how to approach that individual) you can be charged with a hate crime. Also kinda bugs me how he pretends to give a shit about women's rights but borderline supports sharia law.

I'm being sarcastic. I'd be open to a liberal government but not with that out of touch, trust fund baby in charge of it.

CalyxCrusher said:

Ah yes because poll numbers have never been used as propoganda to dissuade voters before.....oh wait. Don't forget the very media bringing you that tripe got a BIG FAT bailout paycheck to the tune of 590+ MILLION dollars. Why bite the hand that feeds after all?

Why do you also think they created and chose groups to control what they see fit as fake news or not? Because what they do IS NOT journalism, they try and present their opinions as facts. Real journalism presents facts OBJECTIVELY and let's the reader decide for themselves .Not steer the conversation in the direction that favors their personal beliefs. The sooner people wake up and realize that the better off we'll all be.

Also, by your logic if one person within a group does something wrong you then personally decide to paint that whole group as the same and condemn them all. That's textbook descrimination and you can't even see it. It's also a lazy way to shut down conversation and is also a play straight out of the communist manifesto. Hmmmm what other people label people as groups instead of individuals?.........

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Why is it the right never complains when the polls show them with a big lead? It's only 'fake news' when the other side is doing well.
I also haven't seen outrage over the right labeling the left as all being 'loonies' and worse - who knew there were different rules?
I gave my opinion of the PPC - like it or not, I'm entitled to my views.

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Why is it the right never complains when the polls show them with a big lead? It's only 'fake news' when the other side is doing well.
I also haven't seen outrage over the right labeling the left as all being 'loonies' and worse - who knew there were different rules?
I gave my opinion of the PPC - like it or not, I'm entitled to my views.

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I'm not particularly sure how its possible to defend this particular liberal government. I'm not niave in the sense that all government has their own interests at heart but look at this gong show that started since Trudy took power.

nsbudca said:

I'm not particularly sure how its possible to defend this particular liberal government. I'm not niave in the sense that all government has their own interests at heart but look at this gong show that started since Trudy took power.

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All governments are shit. Look at the entire 9 years Harper and the Cons were in power if you want to see a gong show. SNC scandal started with the Cons, Cons plunged us into the largest deficit in history after being handed a surplus, only party ever found to be in contempt of parliament, the senate scandal, Con MP imprisoned for election crimes, fleeced $1.8 billion of our EI money, pushed back retirement to steal 2 years worth of money every one of us paid into, etc etc etc etc.

I dislike this government but the Cons have fucked us sideways every time they are in power both provincially and federally.

nsbudca said:

I'm not particularly sure how its possible to defend this particular liberal government. I'm not niave in the sense that all government has their own interests at heart but look at this gong show that started since Trudy took power.

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Oh, I'm not defending them, lol, they suck! They are just safer than the alternative. It'll either be Libs or Cons who form government so I'm hoping for the least corrupt of the two and imo that's the Liberals. A minority government regardless of who wins would keep them honest, but we'd be back at the voting booth in 6 months.
Time for a fucking revolution and start over - none of the current options gives a fuck about Canada or Canadians.

I will vote for any politician whose nose grows whenever they tell a lie.
Pinocchio for PM all the way.

VIANARCHRIS said:

All of the 911 hijackers came from there...and the Americans went to war with Iraq???
It goes with my other argument though, build pipelines and refineries and stop importing Saudi oil. It'll create thousands of well paying jobs for Canadians instead of the Saudis and Chinese. Instead the oil companies are trying to convince us that shipping Alberta oil to China will fix all of Canada's problems. It will only help the execs and shareholders. imo

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Get a political party to say that, I'll vote

VIANARCHRIS said:

I agree, but the courts have ruled otherwise. It happened under the previous government too, and none of them have done anything to try to have it declared abuse... and the judges aren't elected.
I had a friend of over 30 years decide he was a woman at 50+ y/o, and taxpayers covered the entire cost of the treatment and operation. That shouldn't happen either. He looks and acts like a freak now.
I'm a left-leaning 'liberal', not a whackjob! I'm of the age where I still believe there is only two genders -if you were born with a penis, you're male, if not you're a girl. That's it. If you want to have a relationship with someone of your own sex, have at it, but the whole LGBTQ++++ movement has gone absolutely insane. WTF is gender neutral? Do they look like a barbie doll between their legs or how does that work?

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I had two ducks, both hens

One decided to become a drake and is now fertilizing the eggs of the hen

You’re a dumbfuck who needs to mind his own fucking business

Skatch420 said:

The party the media are not covering is Maxime Bernier & The People's Party of Canada and if they do it's subpar or negative... The platform is logical and common sense Centrist and not at all racist.
Do your own research
Think for yourself
Wakeup

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Love it when I have to qualify my favorite party as “not at all racist” because everyone agrees that they are extremely racist

nsbudca said:

First off, legalization is a joke a d he fucked it up royally.

Unfortunately for those against pipelines, transfer payments are getting a little costly for the Alberta government without them. We're still sending transfer payments as if the oil field is booming and it certainly is not. On top of that, we have the cleanest oil sands in the world with the highest environmental protection regulations as well. And if you do a little research you'll see why pipelines are less detrimental to the environment than using trains which is basically what's happening now.

Trudeau also implemented this carbon tax. Yes it was in the talks already, but kinda fishy that he slams it on the table right around the time they realized that pot sales weren't meeting expectations. I'm not sure what the federal deficit is to date but last I checked, it was $19.8 billion. He's absolutely drowning us lol. You can carbon tax me all you want but I still need to drive to work, especially in rural Alberta. Thus not helping the environment but making life even more unaffordable than it already is for a working class Canadian.

Syrians, i agree that they need somewhere to go and i understand why Canada would seem like a great place to start over. However, he's spent copious amounts of money on them while looking a veteran who lost a limb for our country, dead ass in the eyes, and says veterans are asking for more than they can give. At least background check all these people before they come.

He's screwed up a lot. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Why

nsbudca said:

First off, legalization is a joke a d he fucked it up royally.

Unfortunately for those against pipelines, transfer payments are getting a little costly for the Alberta government without them. We're still sending transfer payments as if the oil field is booming and it certainly is not. On top of that, we have the cleanest oil sands in the world with the highest environmental protection regulations as well. And if you do a little research you'll see why pipelines are less detrimental to the environment than using trains which is basically what's happening now.

Trudeau also implemented this carbon tax. Yes it was in the talks already, but kinda fishy that he slams it on the table right around the time they realized that pot sales weren't meeting expectations. I'm not sure what the federal deficit is to date but last I checked, it was $19.8 billion. He's absolutely drowning us lol. You can carbon tax me all you want but I still need to drive to work, especially in rural Alberta. Thus not helping the environment but making life even more unaffordable than it already is for a working class Canadian.

Syrians, i agree that they need somewhere to go and i understand why Canada would seem like a great place to start over. However, he's spent copious amounts of money on them while looking a veteran who lost a limb for our country, dead ass in the eyes, and says veterans are asking for more than they can give. At least background check all these people before they come.

He's screwed up a lot. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

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I dont understand why you are blaming pipeline problems on Trudeau. He nationalized a massive pipeline project in an attempt to get it built. How many pipelines did Harper get done? As for legalization, at least he got it done. Sure some growing pains, but do you think a conservative would have even tabled a proposal? Outside of Alberta our economy is extremely strong and unemployment is at record lows.
Fiscally Trudeau's real weakness is his heavy spending, however if you look at spending as a percentage of GDP it's not any different than under Harper.

Lol, an entire political thread of Alberta vs the rest of Canada. In 50 years there won't be a single person that wants to live in that dumpster fire of a province. After the oil companies see no further profit from raping and pillaging Canadian land, they'll pack up and leave the government with the clean up bill, just like the nickle mines in Ontario or the pulp mills in NS. Alberta, and it's people, are just a number in a company ledger, and when that number is less than acceptable to shareholders, let the dumpster fire ignite.

You do realize that the provincial budget is completely separate from the federal budget, right? It's decades of short sighted politicians shovelling the money to their buddies with little regard to Alberta's historical boom or bust economy. You not having a consumption tax, which basically gives oil companies a 10% discount on everything they procure, whether it be services, equipment, construction, etc... (imagine what that was worth, but hey, you saved some money on your jacked up F350s). The fact you have a deficit is 100% your own dumb faults, nothing to do with transfer payments (which are based on median income per capita, not oil royalties) or anything else federal. In fact, "Canada" (the libtards) just bought you a 40 billion dollar pipeline to get your shitty, dirty, cheapass oil to market. Talk about taking a stupid stance on a government that has bent over backwards and did the exact opposite of what they promised the rest of Canada to get elected.

Before oil, your province sucked on the teat of the rest of canada with farm bailouts and high unemployment, and without fed money, you wouldn't have the infrastructure needed to support the oil patch.

A country isn't about YOUR province or mine, it's about us all. Oil companies aren't going to be around for ever, and when they leave with all your resources, what's left but a hot, dry, burning mess of a province, littered with orphaned wells and people with stupid high "rare" cancer rates.

Vote Green, or hold your nose and vote Liberal. Fuck the Cons and the PPC.

UncleBuck said:

I had two ducks, both hens

One decided to become a drake and is now fertilizing the eggs of the hen

You’re a dumbfuck who needs to mind his own fucking business

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Once you become an adult, you may learn to disagree with someone without calling them names or demanding they do as you tell them. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have reached that level of maturity, so I'll simplify things for you.

Fuck you, shit for brains. Keyboard fucking tough guy. You'd hide like a scared little girl if I knocked on your door right now, you coward.
Don't you fucking come on here and tell me to mind my own fucking business you fucking goof. Whenever I write something, it IS my business. You are the asshole injecting your idiocy into the conversation. I'll chew you up and spit you the fuck out, punk. I'm not new to this....ask around. lol
It's too bad you're a fucking snowflake and can't understand that I might have a different view of the world than you, but you need to grow the fuck up, cupcake.

Now if you ever learn how to act like a human, come back and introduce yourself - until then go be an asshole somewhere else...

VIANARCHRIS said:

Once you become an adult, you may learn to disagree with someone without calling them names or demanding they do as you tell them. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have reached that level of maturity, so I'll simplify things for you.

Fuck you, shit for brains. Keyboard fucking tough guy. You'd hide like a scared little girl if I knocked on your door right now, you coward.
Don't you fucking come on here and tell me to mind my own fucking business you fucking goof. Whenever I write something, it IS my business. You are the asshole injecting your idiocy into the conversation. I'll chew you up and spit you the fuck out, punk. I'm not new to this....ask around. lol
It's too bad you're a fucking snowflake and can't understand that I might have a different view of the world than you, but you need to grow the fuck up, cupcake.

Now if you ever learn how to act like a human, come back and introduce yourself - until then go be an asshole somewhere else...

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Mind your own fucking business and let parents raise their kids

They don’t want or need bigot fucktards firing off their cock holsters about the tough decisions they and their children face

Again...FUCK YOU!
What in the fuck on you on, boy? Get of the crack...it's making you sound like a fucking idiot.
Which parents did I interfere with raising their kids, fuckwad? Are you suggesting a comment voicing my opinion on the subject is somehow influencing someone in a decision about their child, you're even dumber than I thought. I'm a bigot and a fucktard because I don't agree with you? And, again....FUCK YOU! Is no one outside of the lgtbq circus allowed to have an opinion on anything that involves their members, cause if that's the case, you folks need to shut the fuck up about anything the straight folks do. I wasn't rude, homophobic or at all confrontational in my original comment, and you went straight to name calling and insuklts because you didn't like my message. Either you're a snowflake or you have mental health issues....or most likely, both.
Now run along and play with your little friends...you annoy me.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Once you become an adult, you may learn to disagree with someone without calling them names or demanding they do as you tell them. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have reached that level of maturity, so I'll simplify things for you.

Fuck you, shit for brains. Keyboard fucking tough guy. You'd hide like a scared little girl if I knocked on your door right now, you coward.
Don't you fucking come on here and tell me to mind my own fucking business you fucking goof. Whenever I write something, it IS my business. You are the asshole injecting your idiocy into the conversation. I'll chew you up and spit you the fuck out, punk. I'm not new to this....ask around. lol
It's too bad you're a fucking snowflake and can't understand that I might have a different view of the world than you, but you need to grow the fuck up, cupcake.

Now if you ever learn how to act like a human, come back and introduce yourself - until then go be an asshole somewhere else...

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There was a better way that he could have disagreed with you, so I will do so. MRI scans of trans and cis brains have shown that trans teens brains resemble that of the gender they identify as rather than that they were born as. More studies need to be conducted (I think there are only 2 currently, both show the same thing) but it is extremely strong evidence supporting trans identity. The thing that is so good both about the quality of the studies and the type of study they chose to do is that it eliminates feelings and beliefs completely, it is literal brain scans, there is nothing to be skewed.

I'm not looking for an argument or fight, I have shittier things to do today (it's trim day), just presenting evidence, the evidence that actually made me rethink my view on things.