2022 elections. The steady march for sanity continues.

Roger A. Shrubber

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Vote republicans out......
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they were founded in 2009 and have 2.5 million supporters...and they want to add 6,000,000 conservative christian voters in 13 states?....it's taken them 13 years to get to a questionable 2.5 million supporters, and they're going to more than double that in only 13 states, before the next election?.....
sure, now tell me the one about magic bread and fish...better throw in the one about making wine out of water too, think we're all gonna need a drink before this story is over
 

CunningCanuk

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they were founded in 2009 and have 2.5 million supporters...and they want to add 6,000,000 conservative christian voters in 13 states?....it's taken them 13 years to get to a questionable 2.5 million supporters, and they're going to more than double that in only 13 states, before the next election?.....
sure, now tell me the one about magic bread and fish...better throw in the one about making wine out of water too, think we're all gonna need a drink before this story is over
You gotta have faith.
 

Herb & Suds

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We have politicians in Michigan calling for folks to come to the polls armed to protect the installed Republican vote watchers
Also the same ones are saying if anyone is suspicious they should unplug voting machines
So my question is
If I go to my voting place and it is filled with armed right wingers, can I claim I am in fear for my life and defend myself? :(
 

hanimmal

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We have politicians in Michigan calling for folks to come to the polls armed to protect the installed Republican vote watchers
Also the same ones are saying if anyone is suspicious they should unplug voting machines
So my question is
If I go to my voting place and it is filled with armed right wingers, can I claim I am in fear for my life and defend myself? :(
I will be pissed if these GQP take away our ability to use mail in ballots because they were able to get a couple thousand signatures to pass some bullshit voter suppression nonsense that Whitmer can't veto.
 

printer

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North Carolina Supreme Court strikes down GOP-drawn maps as unconstitutional
The state's high court said in its ruling that the maps were unconstitutional "beyond a reasonable doubt under the free elections clause, the equal protection clause, the free speech clause, and the freedom of assembly clause of the North Carolina Constitution."

The maps, which the GOP-controlled legislature approved in November, would create two new Republican-leaning districts and take away two previously Democratic-leaning districts.

"Showing that a reapportionment plan makes it systematically more difficult for a voter to aggregate his or her vote with other likeminded voters" was enough to establish "the diminishment or dilution of a voter's voting power on the basis of his or her views," the court said in its ruling.
The decision came on a 4-3 vote along partisan lines, with a Democratic majority ruling against the maps.

It was lauded by North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) and the state's Attorney General Josh Stein (D) on Twitter.
"A healthy democracy requires free elections and the NC Supreme Court is right to order a redraw of unconstitutionally gerrymandered districts. More work remains and any legislative redraw must reflect the full intent of this decision," Cooper wrote on Twitter.
Stein said in a statement on Twitter that the maps violated "a voter's fundamental right to vote."

Our government “must be of, by, & for the people, not of, by, & for one political party. That's why the voters should choose their representatives, not the other way around. Partisan gerrymandering is offensive to democracy; it's also contrary to our fundamental constitutional rights,” he added.
The North Carolina Supreme Court in December delayed the state's primary elections until May to give the legal challenges time to play out.
 

printer

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Supreme Court could act soon on Alabama racial gerrymandering dispute
Pending before the justices is an emergency request by Alabama Republicans to block a lower court ruling which ordered the state’s voting districts to be redrawn after the court found Alabama’s plan likely runs afoul of the Voting Rights Act.
The case tees up a high-profile test for a Supreme Court that over the last decade has steadily narrowed the sweep of federal voting protections and now comprises a conservative supermajority that includes three justices nominated by former President Trump.

The central question is whether the mismatch between Alabama’s Black population and its disproportionately low representation in the U.S. House violates the law. Despite Black Alabamians accounting for around 27 percent of the state’s population, the voting map drawn by the GOP-held legislature following the 2020 census gives Black voters control of only 14 percent of the state’s congressional delegation, or one in seven Alabama seats in the U.S House.

Challengers to the new map brought suits in federal court alleging that the new voting districts reflected “a decades long pattern of the white-controlled Alabama Legislature” drawing maps that “discriminate against Black voters to maintain power” in violation of federal law and constitutional protections.

Groups contesting the redistricting plan allege that Republican state lawmakers engaged in map-drawing techniques known as “cracking” and “packing,” hallmark features of gerrymandering, the practice of designing voting districts for partisan advantage.
Cracking breaks up a geographic cluster of an opposing party’s likely voters and distributes them among several districts where their votes are unlikely to sway the outcome of a race.
Alternatively, packing those voters into a small number of districts virtually ensures the opposing party will be uncompetitive in most districts.

Under Section 2 of the landmark Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection, mapmakers are generally prohibited from using these techniques to dilute the vote of racial minorities.
Challengers to Alabama’s redistricting plan argued in court papers that a fair map which accurately reflected the state’s demographics would give Black voters more say over two of the state’s seven House seats, instead of just one.

Last month, a three-judge panel that included two Trump nominees ruled in favor of the challengers and blocked the current congressional districts from being used in upcoming elections. The panel ordered Alabama to reconstruct their map to give Black voters greater power in two districts, setting a deadline of Feb. 7.

The ruling prompted Alabama’s Sec. of State John Merrill (R) and top GOP lawmakers to file an emergency request to the Supreme Court, which has received both parties’ briefings and could soon rule in the case.
Over the last decade, the court has issued several contentious decisions that have reduced the reach of the Voting Rights Act and barred federal courts from hearing disputes over partisan (as opposed to racial) gerrymandering claims.
 

HGCC

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printer

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Opponents seek to block Cawthorn from ballot for his actions on Jan. 6
A team of lawyers has argued that Cawthorn's actions, which included speaking at a rally ahead of the storming of the Capitol and supporting baseless claims of election fraud, violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The section states that no one can hold office if they "engaged in an insurrection" after taking an oath to back the Constitution, according to NPR.

The organization Free Speech for People is also funding a challenge to Cawthorn's candidacy. Ron Fein, the legal director for the organization, spoke to NPR about Cawthorn's alleged contact with planners of the Jan. 6 events.

"It's not just that Cawthorn spoke at that pre-attack demonstration — one of only two members of Congress who spoke there — alongside other speakers who were demanding trial by combat and talking about sacrificing blood to fight for America," Fein said. "But we also have reliable reporting that Cawthorn and his team were communicating with the planners ahead of Jan. 6 and helped to plan some of these events."

The group is reportedly building its case to challenge Cawthorn, who is up for reelection this year, by labeling him an insurrectionist.
Former North Carolina Supreme Court Justice Bob Orr, who is working on the case and is also a former Republican, told the news outlet that there is a local precedent for disqualifying candidate eligibility based on the candidate having engaged an insurrection, but he added that proof of Cawthorn's involvement will need to be provided in order for him to be disqualified.

"Did he provide aid and comfort and engage in this?" Orr said. "And we think there is certainly enough evidence on the public record that we know of now, and will certainly be looking for additional evidence."

This week, Cawthorn filed a lawsuit to halt the challenge, adding that he "never engaged in" an insurrection.
“Running for office is not only a great privilege, it is a right protected under the Constitution,” Cawthorn said at the time. “I love this country and have never engaged in, or would ever engage in, an insurrection against the United States. Regardless of this fact, the Disqualification clause and North Carolina’s Challenge Statute is being used as a weapon by liberal Democrats to attempt to defeat our democracy by having state bureaucrats, rather than the People, choose who will represent North Carolina in Congress.”

Cawthorn's eligibility will be determined by a special panel of elections officials from his district, depending on the results of his lawsuit. From there, they will make the final decision regarding his eligibility, NPR reported.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Opponents seek to block Cawthorn from ballot for his actions on Jan. 6
A team of lawyers has argued that Cawthorn's actions, which included speaking at a rally ahead of the storming of the Capitol and supporting baseless claims of election fraud, violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The section states that no one can hold office if they "engaged in an insurrection" after taking an oath to back the Constitution, according to NPR.

The organization Free Speech for People is also funding a challenge to Cawthorn's candidacy. Ron Fein, the legal director for the organization, spoke to NPR about Cawthorn's alleged contact with planners of the Jan. 6 events.

"It's not just that Cawthorn spoke at that pre-attack demonstration — one of only two members of Congress who spoke there — alongside other speakers who were demanding trial by combat and talking about sacrificing blood to fight for America," Fein said. "But we also have reliable reporting that Cawthorn and his team were communicating with the planners ahead of Jan. 6 and helped to plan some of these events."

The group is reportedly building its case to challenge Cawthorn, who is up for reelection this year, by labeling him an insurrectionist.
Former North Carolina Supreme Court Justice Bob Orr, who is working on the case and is also a former Republican, told the news outlet that there is a local precedent for disqualifying candidate eligibility based on the candidate having engaged an insurrection, but he added that proof of Cawthorn's involvement will need to be provided in order for him to be disqualified.

"Did he provide aid and comfort and engage in this?" Orr said. "And we think there is certainly enough evidence on the public record that we know of now, and will certainly be looking for additional evidence."

This week, Cawthorn filed a lawsuit to halt the challenge, adding that he "never engaged in" an insurrection.
“Running for office is not only a great privilege, it is a right protected under the Constitution,” Cawthorn said at the time. “I love this country and have never engaged in, or would ever engage in, an insurrection against the United States. Regardless of this fact, the Disqualification clause and North Carolina’s Challenge Statute is being used as a weapon by liberal Democrats to attempt to defeat our democracy by having state bureaucrats, rather than the People, choose who will represent North Carolina in Congress.”

Cawthorn's eligibility will be determined by a special panel of elections officials from his district, depending on the results of his lawsuit. From there, they will make the final decision regarding his eligibility, NPR reported.
WAHHH!! i did something really stupid, and shouldn't be held accountable for it!....what a fucking cunt. of course, i doubt a "special panel of election officials from his district" will give him the boot he so richly deserves, but with any luck, the federal government will do it for them, and press charges against this fuck
 

DIY-HP-LED

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WAHHH!! i did something really stupid, and shouldn't be held accountable for it!....what a fucking cunt. of course, i doubt a "special panel of election officials from his district" will give him the boot he so richly deserves, but with any luck, the federal government will do it for them, and press charges against this fuck
Just think of all the people in his district who still think the little weasel is a good pick, this is what modern cold civil war looks like. He has plenty of company in the GOP too and they all have a lot in common, Trump attracted them like flies to shit.

This is the result of gerrymandering, endemic local race driven tribalism, disinformation and general stupidity. "They is take'n over", scream the morons who know they can't compete in a meritocracy and will lose in a liberal democracy where everybody has an equal shot. They view the world as a zero sum game, I win you lose, or the other way around, not one in which every one wins, cause then the people they hate might get some.

What possible use could this transparently pathetic sociopath be to any sane person with a clear perspective? What can jerk their chain so fucking hard that they think this POS was worth representing them or distort their perception of reality so severely it becomes delusional? It's the same for Matt Gates, Louie Gohmert and a dozen others, useless as legislators, just performance artists throwing red meat to the base.

I keep saying the democrats will exterminate them as a force in federal politics and some might think of it in terms of revenge and retribution, but it is actually a duty, to the constitution. Patriots in America swear an oath to defend and protect the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, the republican party has mutated from a real and present danger, to an existential threat.

America needs new political parties and blood, the lock of the two parties must be ended and a way to break it would be with an American conservative party, minus the racism. It could be place for actual economic conservatives, but with liberal and middle of the road social policies. They could help to divide the right and keep the lunatics out of power and attract big donor money, RINOS and high powered lawyers. The republican brand is damaged with a few younger generations and covid is killing off, or fucking many older republicans and demographics are changing. The republican party has been poisoned beyond redemption and Trump no longer really matters, the base are a bunch of illiberal, undemocratic assholes who betray the constitution and are cut off from reality by their media bubble and biases.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Just think of all the people in his district who still think the little weasel is a good pick, this is what modern cold civil war looks like. He has plenty of company in the GOP too and they all have a lot in common, Trump attracted them like flies to shit.

This is the result of gerrymandering, endemic local race driven tribalism, disinformation and general stupidity. "They is take'n over", scream the morons who know they can't compete in a meritocracy and will lose in a liberal democracy where everybody has an equal shot. They view the world as a zero sum game, I win you lose, or the other way around, not one in which every one wins, cause then the people they hate might get some.

What possible use could this transparently pathetic sociopath be to any sane person with a clear perspective? What can jerk their chain so fucking hard that they think this POS was worth representing them or distort their perception of reality so severely it becomes delusional? It's the same for Matt Gates, Louie Gohmert and a dozen others, useless as legislators, just performance artists throwing red meat to the base.

I keep saying the democrats will exterminate them as a force in federal politics and some might think of it in terms of revenge and retribution, but it is actually a duty, to the constitution. Patriots in America swear an oath to defend and protect the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, the republican party has mutated from a real and present danger, to an existential threat.

America needs new political parties and blood, the lock of the two parties must be ended and a way to break it would be with an American conservative party, minus the racism. It could be place for actual economic conservatives, but with liberal and middle of the road social policies. They could help to divide the right and keep the lunatics out of power and attract big donor money, RINOS and high powered lawyers. The republican brand is damaged with a few younger generations and covid is killing off, or fucking many older republicans and demographics are changing. The republican party has been poisoned beyond redemption and Trump no longer really matters, the base are a bunch of illiberal, undemocratic assholes who betray the constitution and are cut off from reality by their media bubble and biases.
a reasonable third party would be ok with me, it would give conservatives a place to go that they didn't have to share with magats. it would cost both parties a lot of voters, which would probably be a death knell to the republicans, but who gives a fuck about them, they can't grow, adapt, or evolve, it's time to leave them to history
 
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TacoMac

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a reasonable third party would be ok with me, it would give conservatives a place to go that they didn't have to share with magats. it would cost both parties a lot of voters, which would probably be a death knell to the republicans, but who gives a fuck about them, they can't grow, adapt, or evolve, it's time to leave them to history
To be fair, the same exact thing is happening to the democrats. You have the so-called "progressives" going so far to the left it's laughable while at the same time the so-called "centralist" democrats have essentially joined the republican party.

What is going to happen though is that democrats are going to lose both houses this November. The reason is pretty simple: the instant they got elected, they completely trashed everything they ran on.

Here are the issues they talked about 24/7 during the election cycle and the result since getting elected:
  • Medicare for All - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Student debt relief - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Police Reform - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Expanded Medicare - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Lower prescription medication prices - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Rich pay their fair share of taxes - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • Economy for all - Not a damn thing has been done.
  • $15.00 minimum wage - allowed to be shot down by the parliamentarian. :roll:
The moment they got elected, it was all thrown in the garbage in favor of their own interests. Again.

Joe Biden has done essentially fuck-all. He's so busy trying to be remembered as the second coming of FDR that he's pretty much trashed any chance he had of getting re-elected, provided his health holds out and he lives that long that is. His approval rating right now is right about where Trump's was - in the mid 40's and stuck there.

Dems are going to tote an ass whipping this election cycle.

They completely deserve it.
 
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