26 day old bag seed plant

MonkeyGrinder

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Doski said:
U freaking serious?
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Very. It was already explained. Personal experience and whatnot. And I've personally grown loads start to finish with their products. Hell my season starts with 40 plants a year outdoors. I've pretty much nailed using nothing but Osmocote and rain.
Used it indoors as well. But also swapped indoor experiment flowering food with 2 different ferts due to them having a better micro ratio and different npk levels. One 10 10 10 with micros. Not Jacks cut in half but a stand alone product with full other goodies. And then Jacks BB.
The point is I've grown loads with Water Soluble and time release. Also a wide range of their products under both categories. Do you know how many plants MG has torched? 2. One was just to see if I could push it. And yes I was expecting it. The second was a runt I torched and killed on purpose. And that was to show what happens when you overnute a small plant.
Regardless though the only "evidence' I was given was a DWC experiment and on top of that growing toms.
 
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MonkeyGrinder said:
Very. It was already explained. Personal experience and whatnot. And I've personally grown loads start to finish with their products. Hell my season starts with 40 plants a year outdoors. I've pretty much nailed using nothing but Osmocote and rain.
Used it indoors as well. But also swapped indoor experiment flowering food with 2 different ferts due to them having a better micro ratio and different npk levels. One 10 10 10 with micros. Not Jacks cut in half but a stand alone product with full other goodies. And then Jacks BB.
The point is I've grown loads with Water Soluble and time release. Also a wide range of their products under both categories. Do you know how many plants MG has torched? 2. One was just to see if I could push it. And yes I was expecting it. The second was a runt I torched and killed on purpose. And that was to show what happens when you overnute a small plant.
Regardless though the only "evidence' I was given was a DWC experiment and on top of that growing toms.
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what strength did you feed the seedling in that experiment where it got burned?
 
MonkeyGrinder

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I hit it with over half. It was a runt/mutant. Grew a good root system but up top it didn't wanna do anything. It had roots poking out all over a smartpot.
 
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MonkeyGrinder said:
I hit it with over half. It was a runt/mutant. Grew a good root system but up top it didn't wanna do anything. It had roots poking out all over a smartpot.
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what do you mean by over half? Half the recommended amount of one tbs? When did you start feeding them that amount?
 
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roidy said:
what do you mean by over half? Half the recommended amount of one tbs? When did you start feeding them that amount?
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Didn't feed them all that dose. Just that one plant. I did it intentionally to torch it. No loss because it was a runt.
 
SnotNazi

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Have you, or are you going to top it? If so, do that now then let her grow out 3-4 nodes and if not the let her get 1-2 more nodes like Silky said.
 
MonkeyGrinder

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Well since you topped it then it's going to start branching anyways. So I'd tie it down before the main stem gets too woody. When the branches shoot out it those down as well. Try and keep it all even. If I were you I'd for sure take a small cutting soon and sex it. Since its bagseed.
 
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MonkeyGrinder said:
Well since you topped it then it's going to start branching anyways. So I'd tie it down before the main stem gets too woody. When the branches shoot out it those down as well. Try and keep it all even. If I were you I'd for sure take a small cutting soon and sex it. Since its bagseed.
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I do not have an indoor grow setup to do so. Does this look sufficient...??
 

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Yeah looks good. You really don't even need a full blown indoor set up to sex it. Take a cutting and a cup. A soda cup from Taco Bell would work. Fill with water. Pop stem through lid hole. You can 12/12 it as you see fit. You could do it with a lamp in a dark closet or putting it in a window inside would work. Ate the rest of your plants from the same batch or elsewhere?
 
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Yes they are from the same batch. It appears to be partly indica doesn't it? Someone told me most midgrade genetics is sativa a while back
MonkeyGrinder said:
Yeah looks good. You really don't even need a full blown indoor set up to sex it. Take a cutting and a cup. A soda cup from Taco Bell would work. Fill with water. Pop stem through lid hole. You can 12/12 it as you see fit. You could do it with a lamp in a dark closet or putting it in a window inside would work. Ate the rest of your plants from the same batch or elsewhere?
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GemuGrows

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Maat Aatack said:
Miracle grow kills. It's awful. Otherwise nice looking little plant there.
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Thats not correct.

You can grow some crazy buds in miracle grow...

Not that i'm saying everybody should use miracle grow, but don't tell people it kills...

Some strains like the nute overloaded soil miracle grow provides, some really dont like it.

A good grower can seriously get nuts results with miracle grow, but a good grower will get nuts results with just about whatever they use..

Thats like telling a CFL grower CFLs are terrible and they should just use HID instead or they are wasting their time

Just add a little extra pearlite and you should be fine (like 25%-35% volume, maybe up to like 50%)

And for example, https://www.rollitup.org/t/rookie-here-a-little-help-please.873790/#post-11665986
^That dude would probably be doing great if he used miracle grow instead of whatever the heck he is using. Of course he would probably be doing great with like any other other soil
 
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