2nd grow 4 sqft box with 350-400 watts cfl

valuablevariable

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While not a big fan of using a carboard box, it seems like overall its a decent setup. Dont take the previous comment too seriously, hes being rather harsh. Where are you measuring your temps, are you checking right at the canopy? Not sure what the drooping is, usually I would look at under- and overwatering as well as the temps, but youre already checking those... The (what looks like) aluminium foil might be helping in trapping in some of that heat. Do you have a fan inside blowing air around? Id be somewhat amazed that the temps are under 90F at the top of the plants with that many lights and only 1 pc fan blowing air out and 1 passive intake (although youre doing it right with blowing air out and no fan for intake)
 

pothead18

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its not tin foil is emergency blanket. I figured its better than nothing. And the temps are at the base of the plants. Around the top gets 85 max
 

pothead18

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thanks valuablevariable. any advice will be taken. should i maybe move the cfl's a half inch or inch further away?
 

pothead18

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or maybe take a few lights out? i always hear 10000 lumens per sqft is ideal. but then there are people using 3000-5000 per sqft that get good results
 

Bakatare666

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OK, here's my questions.
Do you water enough to get runoff?
They don't sit in standing water, do they?
I cringe when I hear people say "I'm watering X amount".
I don't worry about how much, just how frequently.
I water until I get some runoff, then some more, even when feeding.
How big are those pots? They look OK, but I'm wondering if you might not be getting root bound.
At a month old, even if they are 6" pots, I would check, just squeeze one gently to break it loose, and hold the stem, tip it over and let it fall out and see if you have roots stuffed in where you would normally find loose soil.
Lastly, if they're a month old, you can start feeding now if you want.
Sorry, one more.
If it was me, I'd get more air moving, just to be comfortable.
 

pothead18

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OK, here's my questions.
Do you water enough to get runoff?
They don't sit in standing water, do they?
I cringe when I hear people say "I'm watering X amount".
I don't worry about how much, just how frequently.
I water until I get some runoff, then some more, even when feeding.
How big are those pots? They look OK, but I'm wondering if you might not be getting root bound.
At a month old, even if they are 6" pots, I would check, just squeeze one gently to break it loose, and hold the stem, tip it over and let it fall out and see if you have roots stuffed in where you would normally find loose soil.
Lastly, if they're a month old, you can start feeding now if you want.
Sorry, one more.
If it was me, I'd get more air moving, just to be comfortable.
lets see if i can awnser all of these.
1. there is runoff but not excessive, and no they dont sit in the runoff, its taken right out
2. i water every 4 days.....should i go 3?
3. they are 6 inch pots. should i look for deep or wide pots? i need to fit all 6 girls in there
4. whenever i have a fan in the box to blow air around the temp wilp jump up 5 degrees. any idea why it would have such an impact?
 

Bakatare666

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lets see if i can awnser all of these.
1. there is runoff but not excessive, and no they dont sit in the runoff, its taken right out
2. i water every 4 days.....should i go 3?
3. they are 6 inch pots. should i look for deep or wide pots? i need to fit all 6 girls in there
4. whenever i have a fan in the box to blow air around the temp wilp jump up 5 degrees. any idea why it would have such an impact?
OK, good answers:shock:
I hate it when I or somebody asks several things to try and help, and the OP only answers one.
Good on the runoff.
Your watering should depend on how dry they are, not the calendar.
I used to water mine (every 4 days was what it worked out to be), then just last week, they started drying out faster, and now I am watering every 3 days.
Lift your pot, and get a feel for how heavy it is right before you water, then after watering and letting it drain for 5 or 10 minutes, pick it up again and feel the difference....... Then you will know about when to water.
If you check them, and they are crammed in there, yes, I would look for deeper and wider pots if you can manage the space, at least a little each way.
If you blow the air around, you are just circulating warm air from the lights.
Try to get a larger or another exhaust (You ARE exhausting from the top, right? With intake down low opposite the exhaust?)
I keep thermometers up at canopy level, ground level, and sometimes at soil level.
My canopy temp stays around 80 with lights on and a fan above blowing down, and a fan below outside the closet at the bottom blowing in, I can get air moving enough to bring my soil and ground temp up to around 70.
 

Trailingpickles

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lol style? Anyone with a brain woud know that your grow box looks like a fire hazard. No home owner would ever risk burning down their house and to have the fire dept. and police dept to do a walk through and see what caused it. just for a lil dope.



Old saying goes : If your gonna do something, do it right.

Ps do you even have a carbon filter? No? Oh thats nice just let the house dank like dope. Real smart....
 

gr865

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Hey, they look great, you ended up with 6 females out of nine plants, that is way cool.

Congrats!
 

pothead18

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im going to try and find bigger pots today and maybe upgrade my exhaust. I have a window fan with 2 6 inxh fans, so that wiuld double my exhaust output

GOOD NEWS!!! it was underwatering.. They looked alot perkier.today
 

Bakatare666

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Thanks gr865! I must say I got lucky with these bagseeds
Be careful man, I had somebody tell me the other day, when I mentioned bagseed, and 4 out of 4 that I had done from it were female,that he thought I had a good chance of having fem's with the hermie trait.
The only on so far that had any seeds, was the one that was heavy Sativa though.
 
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