3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or "BZ".. Anyone have any experience with this?

I know its not really used as recreational drug, but idk I could see some psychonauts taking the plunge if they could get their hands on it (seems unlikely)... Any actually try this stuff??

Erowid Effects of BZ > http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz_effects.shtml

Wiki BZ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate

"frank hallucinations, elaborate interaction with hallucinations" - Erowid

Well if its anything like scapolamine i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole. Also if its similar it probably has a very low LD 50.

Stick to acid or mushrooms. haha

This was designed as a chemical weapon. The effects are long lasting and similar to scopolomine, dataura etc. Ie not fun, potentially deadly an if you woke up in jail scratched and bleeding with no memory of why it wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen with it.

Unless your a curious person always looking to add another experience to your pool of experiences, I'd say there's plenty of deliriant-esque herbs and plants you could try first.

Try nutmeg if you want to scratch that itch.

Deliriants aren't my cup of tea.. I have enjoyed small amounts of nutmeg before, but too much and I have gotten.. well delirious, it's uncomfortable.

I was more curious if any one out there may have had experience with it. Some people do datura and whatnot, which isn't really recreational either.

Apparently people eat food that isn't there and smoke phantom cigarettes on the stuff. Literal hallucinations I've thought to be basically impossible, so my interest was piqued. I'd love to read an experience report from someone. Wasn't much on erowid, which shows it's probably not even really obtainable.

TheNameless said:

Apparently people eat food that isn't there and smoke phantom cigarettes on the stuff. Literal hallucinations

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I once did datura about 15 years ago and I had these kinds of hallucinations. I trip for 3 days straight and thought I was going crazy. I was smoking invisible cigs and all kinds of stuff, talking to people who weren't there. Weird Shit for sure.

bushwickbill said:

I once did datura about 15 years ago and I had these kinds of hallucinations. I trip for 3 days straight and thought I was going crazy. I was smoking invisible cigs and all kinds of stuff, talking to people who weren't there. Weird Shit for sure.

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Nice haha! Wow, so would you consider this a neutral trip? Good, bad? Or uncomfortable but with no regrets? Sounds kinda fun haha..

TheNameless said:

Nice haha! Wow, so would you consider this a neutral trip? Good, bad? Or uncomfortable but with no regrets? Sounds kinda fun haha..

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Sorry took so long to reply, been workin. Anyway parts were good, parts were confusing as hell, I'd say mostly it was pretty neutral, I never had the urge to freak out or anything like that. By the second day tho, it started to get old. I was to the part where I was starting to think more clearly, but I was having problems telling what was real and what wasnt.