30 day Veg vs 60 Day Veg Yeilds

Trippyness

Trippyness

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Hello mates.

I am starting a new grow and am wondering if I switch to 60 day Veg instead of 30 how much yeild increase can I expect?

This is a serious grow.

using Gavita 1000w DE fixtures
24 5 gallon Ebb and Flow
Strains Blue Dream by Humbolt
Viper Cookies by Moxie
Both big yeilders.

Just looking to increase yeilds with less harvests.

Looking at 4,000 watts of Gavita DE for 24 Plants vegged at 60 days all from clone.

Just want to know from anyone with experiance if this will be more effective

There is a post on IC mag stating that can double or triple yields.

I am not a new grower just starting a more serious grow.

Any real world experiance by pro growers would be of good help
 
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Deadlytalon2014

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Trippyness said:
Hello mates.

I am starting a new grow and am wondering if I switch to 60 day Veg instead of 30 how much yeild increase can I expect?

This is a serious grow.

using Gavita 1000w DE fixtures
24 5 gallon Ebb and Flow
Strains Blue Dream by Humbolt
Viper Cookies by Moxie
Both big yeilders.

Just looking to increase yeilds with less harvests.

Looking at 4,000 watts of Gavita DE for 24 Plants vegged at 60 days all from clone.

Just want to know from anyone with experiance if this will be more effective

There is a post on IC mag stating that can double or triple yields.

I am not a new grower just starting a more serious grow.

Any real world experiance by pro growers would be of good help
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Simply put, about double, but this also doubles your flower time as well... The bigger the plant after Veg the bigger, but longer the flowering cycle will be, If you are going for a 60 veg I suggest you FIM the plants, making your yield much more. My last grow, I vegged for 60 days while fimming, I have 8 main colas, and about 20 lesser colas that have grown up.
 
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The Nine

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Deadlytalon2014 said:
Simply put, about double, but this also doubles your flower time as well... The bigger the plant after Veg the bigger, but longer the flowering cycle will be, If you are going for a 60 veg I suggest you FIM the plants, making your yield much more. My last grow, I vegged for 60 days while fimming, I have 8 main colas, and about 20 lesser colas that have grown up.
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Have you ever used the squeeze, bend and snap method as opposed to fimming or topping?
If so what did you think?
My mate swears by it.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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Trippyness said:
Hello mates.

I am starting a new grow and am wondering if I switch to 60 day Veg instead of 30 how much yeild increase can I expect?

This is a serious grow.

using Gavita 1000w DE fixtures
24 5 gallon Ebb and Flow
Strains Blue Dream by Humbolt
Viper Cookies by Moxie
Both big yeilders.

Just looking to increase yeilds with less harvests.

Looking at 4,000 watts of Gavita DE for 24 Plants vegged at 60 days all from clone.

Just want to know from anyone with experiance if this will be more effective

There is a post on IC mag stating that can double or triple yields.

I am not a new grower just starting a more serious grow.

Any real world experiance by pro growers would be of good help
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I'mma find out in a couple-few months. I have two plants that have been vegging for over 60 days right now, and they are pretty beastly for indoor. Paradise Nebula and Original White Widow IBL freebies. If they are anything near as awesome as the Delahaze I will be over the moon. I'm almost scared to flower them. I'm still almost two weeks before harvesting the rest of the current flowering lasses, by then these will be reedonkulous. I'm not using HID, I have a hodgepodge, but vegging them under 6 HO T5s.
 
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Joe Blows Trees

Joe Blows Trees

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Deadlytalon2014 said:
Simply put, about double, but this also doubles your flower time as well... The bigger the plant after Veg the bigger, but longer the flowering cycle will be, If you are going for a 60 veg I suggest you FIM the plants, making your yield much more. My last grow, I vegged for 60 days while fimming, I have 8 main colas, and about 20 lesser colas that have grown up.
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Approximately how much longer is the flowering time? I vegged 60 days so I'm curious how much extra time to expect.
 
Sonnshine

Sonnshine

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bellcore said:
I've not heard off flower times being extended before either. Hmmm.
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My outdoor plants vegged for well over 60 days. Indicas flowered in 8-9 weeks, Sativas took a little longer. No way was it double the flowering time. Would make outdoor harvests almost impossible except for around the equatorial band.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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blackforest said:
This is news to me. I've vegged 30 days, 60 days, 14 days, flowering cycle is always the same (8-9 weeks (strain dependent)). Link me if you can to this new info you've discovered please.
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Do you have any input on yield differences between 30 and 60 day veg time for a given strain? Do different strains respond variously to those variations? If you get my meaning, if you acquire my drift?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I veg mine for up to three months so they'll fill out a six foot trellis. They finish in 8 weeks just like they did when they were smaller. They= the exact same clones.

The only way a longer veg time will result in more yield is if you weren't vegging them long enough for the available space and lighting in the first place. Gotta increase size and watts in the bloom room if you want to take advantage of bigger veg girls.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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To me it comes down to cost effectiveness, I can run 12 3 gal. pots with 21 days veg or 6 5 gal. pots veg for 30 days or 4 15 gal. pots for 60 days veg. my yields all come out about the same in the long run but the extra cost of lighting and nute's is the factor that I choose to go with the 3 gal. and 21 days veg.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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ok another thing you need to consider is the size of the veg light, a plant vegged 30 days under 400 watts will be smaller than one vegged under 1000 watts. so again, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
 
Michael Huntherz

Michael Huntherz

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chuck estevez said:
ok another thing you need to consider is the size of the veg light, a plant vegged 30 days under 400 watts will be smaller than one vegged under 1000 watts. so again, this question is pretty much irrelevant.
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I agree, as stated it lacks specificity enough to give any answer.
But, for the sake of discussion, let's say you ran the same clones in the same growing media, same lights, fans, filter, season of the year, grow space, let's assume all other things being equal, wait...

If your light doesn't have penetration into the canopy, it won't matter.
If your light has excess capability for penetration of the canopy even after vegging for 60 days, you could do better with even more veg time,

yeah, too many variables. Let's all shut up and grow, then post nug porn.
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Flowering times will not be extended, your overall growing time will obviously be extended. You can expect 2x+ the yield of a 30 day veg. 1/2 pound plants I reckon, 6 per light =24 for 4 gavitas. 3lbs a light if grown proper.
 
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churchhaze

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If you're growing outdoors without anything obstructing the sun, you'll get exponentially greater yield by vegging for longer. If you're growing indoors, it depends how big your canopy is and how much light you have (fill out the canopy).
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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churchhaze said:
If you're growing outdoors without anything obstructing the sun, you'll get exponentially greater yield by vegging for longer. If you're growing indoors, it depends how big your canopy is and how much light you have (fill out the canopy).
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Yeah, pretty much.

Plant count & plant size

Less plants & longer veg time =same yield as more plants with less veg time, if canopy is the same.

Longer veg will always give you more yield per plant count.

Vegging more plants for shorter time will achieve the same yield in less time, but with more plants.

It just comes down to plant size and plant count.
 
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