30ish Yr old Columbian Gold Seed Sprouts. Do I Want it to be a Male or Female?

Make this a Male or a Female-30 yr old columbian Gold Sprout


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Would this be the cut that world of seeds used to make their columbian gold?
With an f8 does that mean that a lot of its original characteristics have been diluted?
 

gudkarma

New Member
i cant say what cut was used by WOS ...but i know for a fact that No Mercy Seeds is showing you a legit representation.

how does f8 signify the loss or dilution of characteristics?
if anything, and depending on the selections made, traits would be maintained.
 

hazey grapes

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i'm going to try and test WoSs columbian gold before this summer. if i do, i'll report on the quality. i didn't realize it's available as a pick & mix single. that takes some of the sting out of being the 1st to roll the dice on something
 

Timmahh

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I just read through this entire 44 page thread, and I'll recap briefly:

-Timmah found some 30+ year old seeds in a cup he stashed in the 1970s.
-He believed that the seeds in question were pulled from a kilo of pedigreed Columbian gold (but might have been Maui Wowie).
-One seed germinated, turned female, and showed indica-type leaves, effectively proving that it is NOT the fabled Columbian Sativa strain.
-The plant in question appears to be curing right now, and if my timing is right, should be ready for "testing" pretty soon. Presumably a smoke report will be coming thereafter.
-Along the way two posters got into a urination fight, one saying in effect "my poo is better than anything from the 1970s and you're all wasting your time with this disco era stuff" and the other claiming "you weren't there and you really don't know what you're talking about".

And here we are.

As to myself, all I can say is that the Columbian gold did enjoy the reputation of being the best in its day. Or, to put it more specifically, of the various pot types commercially available in the USA in the mid/late 1970s, (Mexican, Panamanian, etc) the Columbian was supposed to be the best of them.

I never got to try it personally, though I would say, I'd be a lot more interested in trying something like that then whatever happens to be the genetically-incestual Dutch wonder-hybrid flavor of the month.

I have no reason to think that the famous Columbian shouldn't be as good as any of the top shelf stuff from today. Again, cannabis has been selectively bred by people for just about as long as recorded human history, at least several thousand years, and probably about as long as people have been breeding ANY plant. So genetic maximum potency (or pretty damn close) was undoubtedly achieved independently, many times and in many places on the globe.

In terms of true historical loss of the strain, it possible, but who knows?

Even though the stuff hasn't been imported into the USA in quantity since the Reagan administration, it seems probable that some of the "good stuff" would still have been grown in Columbia for local use more recently than that. For all I know some direct descendant of the 70s era strain may still be grown down there in some farmer's backyard.

Now, if some seeds could potentially survive in a coffee cup in the USA after thirty years, its got to be possible, if not probable, that some peasant in mountainous Columbia still has some old viable seeds stashed away somewhere.

One practical problem with these sorts of heirloom (not properly "landrace" since they've undoubtedly been selectively bred by people) strains is that after generations of natural and manmade selection, they'll do best in their native environment. Take "Columbia Gold" and try and grow it in your backyard, and you may well end up with "New Jersey Schwagg"!

excellent summation!!!!!!!! very well stated Sir!.
its been awhile. lots been going on. will try to update as time allows. good news, no arrests, just getting politically active on top of the rest.

brief update. 1st cut finished up, lost all pics in puter wipe. didnt get the chance to get it tested.
overall it was pretty good, but not what i had hoped for TCH wise (my own smoke testing) BUT... i believe it does have a good CBD/CBN content. i took the cut around week 9, which i want to think may of been a bit long, further confirming its not the CG i had hoped it was... but im man enough to say, in 30 plus yrs, im sure my mamory isnt as sharp as it was back then.

but... i was eager. lol got about 1.5 O off the lil gal, (about 3 ft tall when i cut it, but it deffinately did a nice job, longevity wasnt too bad, but about an hr later it was nap time. heh. just didnt get the heady i was expecting.
last bit of good news. i currently have 2 of them nearly finished up. 5fters this time. looking quite good (will get pics soon). I WILL have this round tested. I think perhaps 3 to 4 weeks lefts. put them in 2 weeks apart..
 

missnu

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ive been reading you can influance the sex of the plant with Heat and Nutes. im just starting to research it, which is why im here asking the old timers and well versed growers how to sway it, and which way it should be swayed.


i guess im interested in knowing how USEFULL Pure C Gold Pollen would be? Is it something thats in short supply, so will have a high demand? and if not, then imo, it would be best suited as a slut popping off kids i think.
Some female plants have the ability to hermie, and have both sexes when they are subjected to great environmental stress, pretty much the plant thinks it is going to die, so it produces it's own pollen sacks so it's genetics can live on through seeds, it isn't so much that you can make it switch, or choose which one...You can get a female and make it hermie so it has male plants too, or you can end up with a male...or you can have a female and leave it alone and it will usually stay female.
 

Timmahh

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Thanx for keeping the thread ontrack and just chocked full of great info...











as a comparrison, heres a pic i found of the 1st cut just before i took her.


one thing i want to mention, more of a theory, i think the 1st cut was taken to early from the seedling, in that even though it was staggering shoots, the plant just had not been alive long enough to really be mature enough to go into bloom.

i say that because these 2 in now, are getting very frosty, and the 1st cutting was barely getting there. So I am happy i didnt send the 1st cut out for tests, as I am pretty sure it would of been rather premature at that time....

the 1st cut did make some nice oil though.... one of these girls maybe oil dedicated now.
 
You inaccurately claimed that the best strains from the 60's and 70's were low grade. Now you claim I grow; "schwagg." I can see why you might make the inaccurate claims about the best strains of the 60's and the 70's, because you were never lucky enough to experience them, to purchase them and smoke them and then to grow them yourself and smoke them. But how can you justify calling what I grow today as being; "schwagg?" Do you think I have a secret stash of beans from the 60's and 70's or that I have Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine and I jump back in time now and then to pick up fresh seeds from the 60's and the 70's?

People, myself included, cannot purchase seeds from those strains anymore, at least not in their real true pure forms, so it is not like I could be growing them.

And just because you made a Kush mutt and apparently love it and apparently believe that you created something beyond just being special in no way makes something I would not dirty my pipe with, meaning your mutt, magically and mystically transform the genetics I do grow into Roadside Red, even though you clearly love to believe it does.

Im reading the tread, and just laughed my ass off so hard at this. :bigjoint:
 

PeyoteReligion

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Wow really long, cool thread. I'm pretty bummed out after reading most of the thread. That monster looks like it has no thrichombes on it at all. Too bad.
 

Timmahh

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It does, but they certainly aren't what we see today being the tall lollipop structures......


having it tested more for the CBD levels than anything.... being its this old of a strain, chances are decent the CBD may still be quite high in it. and the way it smokes, i would say it likely does..
 

conor c

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Btw op what you have could still be columbian there was two santa marta golds the one everyone knows and wants the sativa one and then a more indica line i bet its related to the indica one that is in seedsmans sugarhaze cos indicas been in columbia longer than most think
 
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