315 Watt CFL Light Bank

Smoke Yoshi · Feb 17, 2009

Do you guys think this system is efficient for a small closet grow, and if so how many plants do you think could work under it?

http://www.stealthhydroponics.com/product.php?xProd=120&xSec=3&jssCart=86e743fffc543bfdd15cea13fc1d9cb2

Madhadda · Feb 17, 2009

Smoke Yoshi said:
Do you guys think this system is efficient for a small closet grow, and if so how many plants do you think could work under it?

http://www.stealthhydroponics.com/product.php?xProd=120&xSec=3&jssCart=86e743fffc543bfdd15cea13fc1d9cb2

bro to be honest, that too much for a small closet grow. Im doing a small closet grow and im doing 6 plants, 6 23w CFLs, and will probably change to a HPS soon. Once i figure out safety issues with it.

OregonMeds · Feb 17, 2009

For $199 they're giving you under $50-60 worth of light. You'll get a whole 17000 lumens out of that 300 plus watts of cfl's, but in reality that's what a 150w hps gives for way less money.
Just buy a 150w hps. It'll grow better, be cheaper, and cooler.

dinkydigger · Feb 18, 2009

OregonMeds said:
For $199 they're giving you under $50-60 worth of light. You'll get a whole 17000 lumens out of that 300 plus watts of cfl's, but in reality that's what a 150w hps gives for way less money.
Just buy a 150w hps. It'll grow better, be cheaper, and cooler.

how is an hps cooler then cfls?...an hps gives off way more heat then those bulbs

Smoke Yoshi · Feb 18, 2009

Thanks guys, i think for the money it may just be better to go get a 400w HPS for 4-5 plants!

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 18, 2009

Smoke Yoshi said:
Thanks guys, i think for the money it may just be better to go get a 400w HPS for 4-5 plants!

Best idea EVER! bongsmilie

VaporBros · Feb 18, 2009

dinkydigger said:
how is an hps cooler then cfls?...an hps gives off way more heat then those bulbs

he's sayin its cooler to use HPS lights then it is to grow with CFL's

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 19, 2009

OregonMeds said:
For $199 they're giving you under $50-60 worth of light. You'll get a whole 17000 lumens out of that 300 plus watts of cfl's, but in reality that's what a 150w hps gives for way less money.
Just buy a 150w hps. It'll grow better, be cheaper, and cooler.

I just dont know wat else to say, but :lol:

OregonMeds · Feb 19, 2009

dinkydigger said:
how is an hps cooler then cfls?...an hps gives off way more heat then those bulbs

Because CFl's are not heat free. They operate on a lower level of efficiency than a 150w hps does and in the world of electronics the watts that don't go to light go to heat by default. The heat is spread out more because there are more heat sources at a lower level with each cfl, but cram those cfl's in a sealed box for an hour and record the temp and then stick a remote ballasted 150w hps in the same space for an hour and record that.

Both will be close, but the hps will actually be lower. Those cfl's will all start to cook eachother with no ventilation and their operating temp will skyrocket.

Bottom line, either way you will need to vent and you will need fans and either way will create heat so it frankly doesn't matter which type of light you choose. I only suggest hps because for the money... Duh...

(I'm no genius but I do have an associates degree in electronics)

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 19, 2009

OregonMeds said:
Because CFl's are not heat free. They operate on a lower level of efficiency than a 150w hps does and in the world of electronics the watts that don't go to light go to heat by default. The heat is spread out more because there are more heat sources at a lower level with each cfl, but cram those cfl's in a sealed box for an hour and record the temp and then stick a remote ballasted 150w hps in the same space for an hour and record that.

Both will be close, but the hps will actually be lower. Those cfl's will all start to cook eachother with no ventilation and their operating temp will skyrocket.

Bottom line, either way you will need to vent and you will need fans and either way will create heat so it frankly doesn't matter which type of light you choose. I only suggest hps because for the money... Duh...

(I'm no genius but I do have an associates degree in electronics)

BULL SHIT! I have over 400W of CFL's runnin in a space that a 400W needed 3 fans in to keep in the HIGH 80's! Now I have 1 fan to keep it in the mid 70's!

VaporBros · Feb 19, 2009

what fan are you using right now?

OregonMeds · Feb 19, 2009

Where in the hell am I? said:
BULL SHIT! I have over 400W of CFL's runnin in a space that a 400W needed 3 fans in to keep in the HIGH 80's! Now I have 1 fan to keep it in the mid 70's!

I was talking about a 150w hps vs that light thing he was looking at, both of which produce the same lunmens but the HPS does it with much less wattage.

I was not talking about your 400 vs 400w of cfl, those are not comparable either way you'd have to compare however many 800-1000w or more of cfl's would be needed to get the same lumens as that 400 HPS in the same space and then get back to us.

If you're going to compare lights, compare lights that grow the same not just the same wattage.

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 19, 2009

VaporBros said:
what fan are you using right now?

Regular, cheap 15W oscillating fan

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 19, 2009

OregonMeds said:
I was talking about a 150w hps vs that light thing he was looking at, both of which produce the same lunmens but the HPS does it with much less wattage.

I was not talking about your 400 vs 400w of cfl, those are not comparable either way you'd have to compare however many 800-1000w or more of cfl's would be needed to get the same lumens as that 400 HPS in the same space and then get back to us.

If you're going to compare lights, compare lights that grow the same not just the same wattage.

Ok, well lets see w/the heat I deal with (almost non-existent), I produce about 32K Lumens of light. A 150W HPS produces between 13K-15K. So, Hmmmm. Anything else there, BUDDY?

VaporBros · Feb 19, 2009

17000K

whats your point?

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 19, 2009

VaporBros said:
17000K

whats your point?

My point being that @ almost double the Lumens of the light HE was talking about, there is not a way to compare the two light set ups

dinkydigger · Feb 20, 2009

Where in the hell am I? said:
BULL SHIT! I have over 400W of CFL's runnin in a space that a 400W needed 3 fans in to keep in the HIGH 80's! Now I have 1 fan to keep it in the mid 70's!

thank you....proved my point

VaporBros · Feb 20, 2009

ok so what fan are you using now? And what fans did you use before. Your probably going to say inline fan, but an inline fan will also cool a 400w HPS with no problems. Im assuming you had 3 pc fans for your 400wHPS. You cant compare anything.

justatoker · Feb 20, 2009

you cant add up lumens BTW.. 5 1000 lumen lights doesnt make 5000 lumens like 1 5k lumen light does.At least thats how I have always heard it.

Where in the hell am I? · Feb 20, 2009

justatoker said:
you cant add up lumens BTW.. 5 1000 lumen lights doesnt make 5000 lumens like 1 5k lumen light does.At least thats how I have always heard it.

Well, you heard wrong, brah! Thats EXACTLY how it works

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