3rd grow w/ Jack's Classic $10 worth of ferts

JoeCa1i

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Nice,but I would've atleast flushed them,I like yellow leaves towards the end.I prefer organic nutes for flower.
 
Very nice man.. Let us know the yield if you so choose to do so =}.. So thats only a 400 watt huh? How many plants did you stick under that? Sorry if i didnt read up on what you wrote initially..
 

Imaulle

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1000w

I only had three 4 foot plants plants, and then 2 tiny plants. I had some problems with clones lol!

next batch I'll have 12 plants or so going under the single 1000w :D
 

Waiakeauka

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What was your feeding schedule in both the veg and flower stages? I must admit that's one nice harvest off of $10 in fertilizer.
 

Imaulle

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for veg I started out doing 1/4 tsp every water then bumped up to 1/2 tsp every water when they were about 1 foot tall and kept up with 1/2 tsp till 3 weeks into flower.

I fucked up when I switch to the flower food and just went straight from 1/2 tsp of the veg to 1/2 tsp of the flower food. They curled a little :( next time I'll slowly come off the veg and onto the flower.
 

patlpp

New Member
Nice job! + rep. When you water, how much did the girls drink each in prepared nutes a day on average? So is there about 4 gallons of soil in each pot? How did the roots look when you harvested, Get a chance to look? Thanks, sorry for all the questions
 

Imaulle

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they each got about 1/2 gallon of water and I was watering about every 3 days. I believe these pots are 5 gallons.

hrrrm I actually never looked at the roots. I'll go look now and take a picture! lol
 

patlpp

New Member
OK Mr Imaulle, the lucky one who has stash now and I don't:leaf:

Nice grow by the way, but I have to take up an argument with you, and maybe others, who think Jack's Classic is the best valued fertilizer of all time. It is, by it's own, but if you add other very significant factors in, it just isn't so. The fact that both ferts have massive urea for N, the medium used must be organic to process all this urea for conversion. The statement that you used $10 in fert is erroneous.

Each pot held maybe 4 gal Happy Froggy (3 new gallons + 1 gal transplant) at a cost (less shipping) of .75c qt = $12 bucket.
Let's say you got the Jack's for free. We won't even calculate how much you consumed. It would not be much per bucket. Maybe 20 grams.

I have a 4 gal 80/20 mix of coco and hydroton for .30c and .60c/ qt respectively. = .36c qt x 16 qts = $5.76. OK I use 24ml/gal nutrient for 84 days. 84/3 (feed every 3 days) = 28 feeds. 1/2 gal feed = 14 gal grow. 14x23ml = 322ml grow per bucket. I buy GH nutes @ $32/Gal. 322ml used = ~ $2.71 grow. My total cost for grow = $8.47

So far your per bucket = $12 Me= $8.47
Now I get 3 grows out of the coco and endless grows out of the hydroton. So if we took 3 grows , than your cost = 12x3 = $36 My cost is $5.76 + $2.71 + $2.71 = $11.18 a bucket. 1/3 your cost. Your fertilizer costs 3 times that of GH (sort of)!! Now I have to buy H2O2 to clean the medium so lets call it even since I gave you free nutes.

My point is
1) You bought Happy Frog which is NUTES. @ 12$ a bucket, AND you had to buy Jack's on top of that. Far from $10.

2) Jacks is so cheap because of the urea, and active soil is required for it to work. (Bloom has some nitrate N though) Good soil costs money and must be calculated in the net fertilizer cost. Other nutrients, when the medium is weighed in, is sometimes equal if not cheaper as I demonstrated.

Don't get me wrong , Jacks is fine, in fact I may get some of that Botanicare organic fortifier and add to coco and do a grow with the Jack's line. I don't slam any one line of nutes, they all have their positive attributes (usually). Jack's is price, uses quality ingredients (see below) and does damn well in organic soil.

If you get on http://www.aapfco.org/metals.htm and punch up peters, you can see the heavy metals of all nutes sold. I must say , Classic is some clean ass shit. It blows the doors off GH,AN and Dyna-grow. However, Happy Frog is high in lead and nickel. ( I think nickel is used in the urea/nitrogen process) .

Again excellent grow, love the frost on them. What camera do you use? Takes great piks. bongsmilie
 

plaguedog

Active Member
Bravo nice grow bud, but you better be quiet otherwise the Advanced Nutrient freaks will be out to get you because god knows we all need to spend 120 bucks on a seaweed/water mix that you can make for 10 dollars for 20 times the amount.

Good job, keep em green. And keep em cheap.
 

plaguedog

Active Member
One more thing: to the people saying you need to flush. COMPLETE BS.

Try drying and curing the bud in a proper fashion and there is no need to fucking flush in SOIL.

Hydro.. maybe, but SOIL NO!
 

Imaulle

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Nice grow by the way, but I have to take up an argument with you, and maybe others, who think Jack's Classic is the best valued fertilizer of all time.
happy frog is cheaper then most other mediums from what I've seen.
 

Imaulle

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and yeah. people think because jacks cost very little that means that they are "cheap" but they are the highest quality nutrients you'll ever find.
 

chainseeker

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Jack's classics proves itself over and over.
I spent $27 on 1.5 pounds of veg and 1.5 pounds of bloom and thats with shipping
For me thats at least a year probably more worth of grows.
 

atomicronick

Active Member
.....you should flush , even with soil. I don't smoke nutes. Neither should you. And for the record, you do have yellow leafs too. However, it wont hold you back. looks like you have a tasty crop commin in, keep up the good work.
 

chainseeker

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Are you using the dynamic duo?
If so you should mix the all purpose and bloom
1/2 and 1/2 to start then slowly switch to all bloom throughout flowering.
By week 4 or shortly after should be all bloom.
This will help keep the desired shade green :)
 
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