3x1000 watt indoor medical grow

Do u usually lst your plants with a 4 week veg? Or do u usually just grow out?

a mongo frog said:

Do u usually lst your plants with a 4 week veg? Or do u usually just grow out?

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To be honest I have never lst'd a plant before.
The way ive been running is 8 clones vegged for a week and then flowered in 5 gallon pots.
Get a half pound a light. Ive just been to skeptical about topping/fimming/lst/lollipopping.
I really dont like causing stress to the plant. One cut when cloning i feel is enough.
I have been opening up to new ideas and did alot of research on lst'ing and decided to give it a shot this go around.
Im still not convinced about topping clones(maybe from seed it isnt bad) or fimming.

In a month or shorter i feel would give my strain enough time to grow about 20-28 inches.
It could be less but im aiming for around 20 inches.
If I train well enough i could reduce this height to 10-14 inches.
During flowering this strain doesnt grow to much maybe around 6-10 inches.
So my overall height would be 20-24inches instead of about 12-16 inches with non vegged/lst'd clones.
I hope i made sense

I guess we'll see what happens?

Im glad I didnt get a thrashing from my last comment lol Im glad we can all be civil around here.
No doubt you can grow bomb bud with synthetics, see it everyday, but like you said "that next level" cannaseur stuff, but remember that genetics are VERY important.. That is #1, then work on making that perfect soil comes. And my methods will NOT get you the highest yeild,,, but then again I have grown some giant fuuken buds in this soil,,, all genetics.




For biggest yield try RDWC and co2, that will do the trick
but Im into 100% quality now.

whodatnation said:

Im glad I didnt get a thrashing from my last comment lol Im glad we can all be civil around here.
No doubt you can grow bomb bud with synthetics, see it everyday, but like you said "that next level" cannaseur stuff, but remember that genetics are VERY important.. That is #1, then work on making that perfect soil comes. And my methods will NOT get you the highest yeild,,, but then again I have grown some giant fuuken buds in this soil,,, all genetics.




For biggest yield try RDWC and co2, that will do the trick
but Im into 100% quality now.

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I have ran a DWC before. Wasn't bad but honestly i didnt like running through 60 gallons of water in a week, adding a little bit of this, adding a little bit of that.
flush agents, bud enhancers, and the list goes on.
I mean its great if you want to be god, I just decided one day to give it what nature gives it with a little human intervention.
I have never used co2 because a couple fellow growers I used to collaborate with swore it didnt make a difference as long as you have a good ventilation system.
Im not sure though cause I myself have never used it.

What nutes do u use? I saw u said 30 bucks for 2 runs.

Friedrice said:

I have ran a DWC before. Wasn't bad but honestly i didnt like running through 60 gallons of water in a week, adding a little bit of this, adding a little bit of that.
flush agents, bud enhancers, and the list goes on.
I mean its great if you want to be god, I just decided one day to give it what nature gives it with a little human intervention.
I have never used co2 because a couple fellow growers I used to collaborate with swore it didnt make a difference as long as you have a good ventilation system.
Im not sure though cause I myself have never used it.

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With certain practices in my rdwc set up I was able to get by just topping off and never changing the resses the ENTIRE grow. It ended up being very watter efficient actually.
And your buddies were wrong about augmented co2 in a sealed room... I can post pics to prove it
Iv never seen such growth with rdwc and co2, amazing.

Oh, in my rdwc systems I was using technaflora nutes.

Friedrice said:

I have ran a DWC before. Wasn't bad but honestly i didnt like running through 60 gallons of water in a week, adding a little bit of this, adding a little bit of that.
flush agents, bud enhancers, and the list goes on.
I mean its great if you want to be god, I just decided one day to give it what nature gives it with a little human intervention.
I have never used co2 because a couple fellow growers I used to collaborate with swore it didnt make a difference as long as you have a good ventilation system.
Im not sure though cause I myself have never used it.

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Your grower friends are exactly right CO2 would not do anything as long as you have a good ventalation system. CO2 has to be used in a sealed room, or with very limited ventalation. The idea is to keep the room at a high ambiant CO2 level, if your ventaltion is sucking it uot, its a loose loose situation. With controlers you can set it up so the CO@ stops if you do NEED to vent the room of heat, then turns back o as soon as the temps are down. I have never ran CO2 just read up on it, and I also believe it helps to keep the plants about 10 degrees warmer around 85 while using it. I guess it opens the pores on the leaves or something. Any way if they tried runing CO2 with strong ventalation then there is no way it could have built up a consentration in the room to help the plants.

Thundercat said:

Your grower friends are exactly right CO2 would not do anything as long as you have a good ventalation system. CO2 has to be used in a sealed room, or with very limited ventalation. The idea is to keep the room at a high ambiant CO2 level, if your ventaltion is sucking it uot, its a loose loose situation. With controlers you can set it up so the CO@ stops if you do NEED to vent the room of heat, then turns back o as soon as the temps are down. I have never ran CO2 just read up on it, and I also believe it helps to keep the plants about 10 degrees warmer around 85 while using it. I guess it opens the pores on the leaves or something. Any way if they tried runing CO2 with strong ventalation then there is no way it could have built up a consentration in the room to help the plants.

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All correct^^^

dont mind this post idk why it posted my shit twice.

whodatnation said:

With certain practices in my rdwc set up I was able to get by just topping off and never changing the resses the ENTIRE grow. It ended up being very watter efficient actually.
And your buddies were wrong about augmented co2 in a sealed room... I can post pics to prove it
Iv never seen such growth with rdwc and co2, amazing.

Oh, in my rdwc systems I was using technaflora nutes.

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Yeah i did see a ton of growth.
As much as 2 inches in one day in veg.
It was really something... Didnt flower those plants though cause i just had it with changing the res and monitoring nutes.
I had it all down really well just didnt want to have to watch it everyday.

I was using GH and dyna-gro in my DWC.

Thundercat said:

Your grower friends are exactly right CO2 would not do anything as long as you have a good ventalation system. CO2 has to be used in a sealed room, or with very limited ventalation. The idea is to keep the room at a high ambiant CO2 level, if your ventaltion is sucking it uot, its a loose loose situation. With controlers you can set it up so the CO@ stops if you do NEED to vent the room of heat, then turns back o as soon as the temps are down. I have never ran CO2 just read up on it, and I also believe it helps to keep the plants about 10 degrees warmer around 85 while using it. I guess it opens the pores on the leaves or something. Any way if they tried runing CO2 with strong ventalation then there is no way it could have built up a consentration in the room to help the plants.

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Makes sense.
The way that i built my room I can have it sealed or unsealed.
Next grow ill probably invest in co2 and get some side by side results to see which one is better.
Would you recommend it?

a mongo frog said:

What nutes do u use? I saw u said 30 bucks for 2 runs.

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I hate to be one of those guys but, If you stick around for the next month(which is when ill be first using them in this thread)
then ill tell you.
Im pretty proud of my cheap high quality nute set
outgrows any other synthetic ive tried.

I'd like to see some pics if you got em whodat

Thundercat said:

Looks like they are getting a little closer.

I was just at the hydro shop today, deffinitly did some drooling. Theres a hand full of things I wish I had to money to buy but to no avail.

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Meaning nutrients?? Could you share on what are some good additives or things that you have seen improve bud quality, densness, etc

Well fried rice, I've never used CO2 but from what I've seen of grows that do YES I would recommend it. I would recommend getting your growing methods and system finalized first probably. If you are still trying differant stuff, and palying around I don't know how much you'll notice the differance. However if you dial in one type of growing, get a couple harvests and makeing things better, then add CO2 with the correct levels, and temperatures, then I"m curtain that you will notice a differance.

Graab 187 as far as "thing I wanted to buy", I was refering both to a few "addatives", as well as just somme equipment. I've been toying with changing my tray setup, and getting a larger res. I may still get a larger rez, but it will be the same rough neck tote type of res I use now. I can't cough up $75 for a 50 gallon res when I can spend about $25 at lowes. I bought some superthrive to start using on my clones. I wanted to get some klerex to try for flushing, see if I notice any differance in taste. The girl at the store gave me some florolicious to try out when I told her I used the GH flora line. I've been running the lucas formula, but i figured sinnce I got this for free I'd cut that back just a tad, and give this a try.

I've tried several differant nutes over the last several years, and honestly have had good results with all of them. I've never really bought into the various add ons, or 6 part nute kits. I personally can't imagine spending 2-3 times on nutes what I spend or how my weed could get "THAT" much better. I've used Fox farms for soil and hydro with the solubles and had great results. I've used the GH flora series with the lucas formula with great results(copied that right out of high times and it worked great go figure). This time I'm gonna add the floralicious for the fun of it. A couple years ago I used a Nute called ENVY, and I'm pretty sure that was my favoriite I've ever used. I havn't been able to get more cus I don't usually order that stuff online, but I really want to run it again soon and varify the results. I only had enough for one harvest, but I believe in hind sight that that was the best tasting and smelling harvest I've ever had. Envy is also very in expensive, it costs like 8 cents a gallon when mixed. $43 for the 2 gallon kit its a 2 part nute which you use equal parts of. Anyway check out the envy I can't speak highly enough of it. I'm gonna try to have my local shop go ahead and order me some even if he charges me extra to do it.

Peace guys,

TC

@thundercat
I used the lucas formula when i was running DWC.
I tweaked it just a little though. Damn was the growth vigorous.

Im probably going to build a little 4x4x6 room and run a sealed co2 setup next grow.
Just to do some experimentation.

Well heres a little update,
I took these pictures yesterday I got on mutated one:/




I checked them last night at they were damp and woke up this morning and a couple had wilted and fell over cause they became dry.
Little pissed about that but it happens. I braced them up and gave them water. I hope they come back.
If not ill have to pop a couple more.

On the plus though, went fishing with my uncle today. Caught one but hes just a little guy.


Didn't get around to making the soil cause i couldnt pass up going fishing.
Ill be waking up first thing in the morning and making it.

for anyone wondering what my setup is

I have one 6x6x12 room with 2 1000 watt high pressure sodium/Metal halide enclosed hoods.
I have another room thats 4x4x6 that has 1 1000 watt high pressure sodium/metal halide enclosed hood.
My rooms are insulated and sealed with black tarp.
I have a cloning rack that you guys will see in a couple of posts from now.
Ill reveal my room one thing at a time
Keep you guys interested

Hope everyone is doing good!
If you have any questions fire away.

man i dont know why went i post another post, it reposts the same thing i just posted-___-

Looking good Rice, sucks about the little ones Iv used RW once.

Friedrice said:

I'd like to see some pics if you got em whodat

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This is an ak 47 grown in rdwc 12/12 from clone. The plant came out to 8 ounces dry and the cola 79 grams dry. My first go at hydro too.







Heres a different run in a different system. Day 35



At the end.

Thanks.
Damn man those look good.
Did you smoke any of that by any chance and know how it tasted?

Okay I've sub'ed, please allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr.Green Scene, but you can call me "G". I have been out for 25 years now, and am getting back in, at a small hobbiest type level. I have constructed a sealed/vented enclosure; 6x3x7, with 900w of LED "grow" type light. Static running of the room shows I can maintain a temp. of 80F with lights on, this drops to 70F with lights off. My humidity is 35% without augmentation, I have a humidifier and can boost to 45-48%.


I have obtained 10 Purple Kush clones, which I am about ready to introduce into the room. I plan to veg. them for a couple of weeks, then pull 4 for future mother stock, and flower the rest. I have purchased some secret soil mix from the local grow shop, and will follow thier direction to cut 50/50 with sunshine mix. I have 4 gallon pots for use on this project, they include large trays.

I have been lurking here for a couple of weeks, and have realized that the knowlege I once had is either irrelevant, or forgotten and I'm glad someone is offering to answer questions. I had arrived at this thread by following a search for best temperature, which really has not been discussed so far. That is my first question, is my room going to work at a lights-on temp. of 80F ?


The grow shop advised me that the soil will work un-amended for several weeks, and I have no idea what to ammend with thereafter, so I'm really interested in this area of disscussion. Thanks for posting this good information, and for helping out newbies such as myself.............................awesome resource.

Whodat everytime you post some pics its damn impressive man!

Mr. Green Scene said:

Okay I've sub'ed, please allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr.Green Scene, but you can call me "G". I have been out for 25 years now, and am getting back in, at a small hobbiest type level. I have constructed a sealed/vented enclosure; 6x3x7, with 900w of LED "grow" type light. Static running of the room shows I can maintain a temp. of 80F with lights on, this drops to 70F with lights off. My humidity is 35% without augmentation, I have a humidifier and can boost to 45-48%.


I have obtained 10 Purple Kush clones, which I am about ready to introduce into the room. I plan to veg. them for a couple of weeks, then pull 4 for future mother stock, and flower the rest. I have purchased some secret soil mix from the local grow shop, and will follow thier direction to cut 50/50 with sunshine mix.ope I have 4 gallon pots for use on this project, they include large trays.

I have been lurking here for a couple of weeks, and have realized that the knowlege I once had is either irrelevant, or forgotten and I'm glad someone is offering to answer questions. I had arrived at this thread by following a search for best temperature, which really has not been discussed so far. That is my first question, is my room going to work at a lights-on temp. of 80F ?


The grow shop advised me that the soil will work un-amended for several weeks, and I have no idea what to ammend with thereafter, so I'm really interested in this area of disscussion. Thanks for posting this good information, and for helping out newbies such as myself.............................awesome resource.

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I like this guy. Old schooler that says what's with this new school grow style. Hope I read him right.