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ZeusBarks

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This is just a theory but I have one idea. Changing your bulb type definitely shifted you toward the red spectrum. Red increases yield and THC but red light also knock down terpene production.

First a bit about how I learned about this:

When I signed up for the NM medical program most of the bud I got made me nervous, confused but not high, at least not how I thought of it from years of smoking. I bought a volcano and started playing around with the temp to see when I felt high. Turn out the high I expect is a combination of THC and linalool a terp that melts right at around 390. Volcano on 380 I can vape bag after bag, after 1 or two bags at 390 im done.

Now that I know what chemical blend I'm after I have been researching terp increases. One of the ways to increase terp production is to cut red light in the last 2 weeks of flower.

I bet you used to grow terp heavy by using relatively high blue light levels for flower. Switching to HPS up THC and yield but then you terp level drop proportionally. Basically you have less terps b/c you have less blue light and those terp are spread across a larger yield. Using the volcano digital really helped me understand THC alone is some lame shit.

Now I am trying to grow terp heavy with high yeild using HPS and LED combo by adding Azomite, fungi, molasses and Im going to swap 1/2 the LED back to 6K from 2.7K for the last two weeks of flower.
 

danjac82

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The plants under fluros do smell stronger. Not only that, they finish faster and appear to be frostier. Under the hps, they stall a bit at the end. The finish is stretched out longer than with more blue spectrum. I’m going to try a Eye Hortilux super hps next time I flower here in a few weeks. Hoping the added blue spectrum will help some. I was harvesting too early also so that was a big problem of mine regarding quality. Taking them to a full finish this time. If I had th money to play around with right now I’d get a CMH as I really like what I’m seeing and hearing. I really like the more natural light look. Hell, if I had enough t5 lighting and cfl lighting for this next group going into flower I’d use them over the hps bulb I have. Heard a lot about terpenes driving the effects. A guy explain it like the thc and CBd are like vehicles and the terpenes are the fuel That drives them. You want rich terpene development.
 

ZeusBarks

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If I had th money to play around with right now I’d get a CMH as I really like what I’m seeing and hearing. I really like the more natural light look. Hell, if I had enough t5 lighting and cfl lighting for this next group going into flower I’d use them over the hps bulb I have. Heard a lot about terpenes driving the effects. A guy explain it like the thc and CBd are like vehicles and the terpenes are the fuel That drives them. You want rich terpene development.
Meet the cheap ass janky “500 w” led. It ain’t pretty but with one good cob, one good 2 good 2.7k two crap burples and a 25 Walmart lamp you have a 90w true draw led that run really well and gives color flexibility. My full light set up was less than $500 and I love it.

I bought eye bulbs 10 years ago but it’s hard to spend $75-125 on a bulb now if you ask me. When ballasts were 1,000, led were expensive trash and China didn’t manufacture weed equipment they were worth it. Best, probably; but not worth running in my small space.

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danjac82

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That totally sucks about the spider mites, Knock on wood, I've never had them and am trying to keep it that way! I totally agree about lots of guys around here cutting too early, hell I've done it, especially if there is a real reason(like if the mites are too bad). Thankfully there are more and more people learning to do it right :). The counting from 12/12 thing is something I really try to help people understand and change, because its only a stoner thing. Real gardeners don't say a plant is flowering until it actually is. There are lots of others on here that realize this, and share it with people as well. Just because something is common, doesn't mean we should perpetuate it. Flushing at harvest is common, but that doesn't make it effective. Calling bracts calyxs is common but still wrong. Its all about trying to educate each other and those around us to raise the level of experience and skill. Instead of just following the stoner crowd.
I pulled a few clusters of bananas off one of the cheese plants and noticed a small green ovule in there. Not brown or hard like last time but still seems a little big. I think I’m gonna take this plant. I pulled a Lower bud and dried it in oven. Was very nervous to hit it..you know cause the ovule thing. Didn’t get a single crackle in 4 big hits. The thing is it’s actually more potent being a fast dried oven bud from the bottom than it was dried and cured from last harvest. A little weird with the head high with it being not dried or cured proper but it’s got the body stone good already. It’s definitely gonna be a lot stronger. Not a fan of the fresh picked high though. I can tell it’s strong for sure though. Looking forward to seeing what the prime buds smoke like after 3-4 weeks. Might pull her tomorrow
 

danjac82

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Funny thing is tastes better too already. The buds that cured for a month are less flavorful. Lol. Got a nice red glaze on the eyes. I’m not gonna test anymore until after hung dried. The other cheese I’m gonna leave go a few days and the biggest one another week.
 

danjac82

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Cheese, Chemdag behind her. Blue widowon the left. Took the 2 smaller cheese down. This bigger one I’m thinking still has another week left. I believe the blue widows are about 55 of 12/12.77CAFF7E-B182-4F40-BBA7-38BCBECE3038.jpeg6C33BDE0-FEFE-418B-A9B7-545AECE17341.jpegF42A2C1F-F9E4-4BDC-B4BB-79FA33176BD6.jpeg
 

danjac82

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They started a bit slow but about to ramp up and start growing good now. Second one is the runt that didn’t do anything for over a week6FEEE091-E116-49EF-AF47-EDB2D024ED29.jpeg02C93C3E-A864-459C-A736-05512E35BFD5.jpeg
 

danjac82

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Jack 47 keeps throwing bananas now. I’ve been keeping track of where I’ve pulled them and I’m not seeing signs of seeding. Who knows though. No signs of seeding in the buds where nanners were pulled weeks ago either. I’m catching them before they turn yellow and get bigger. We will see how it turns out. Too late to stop now though.
 

danjac82

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Also, your bananas could be herm, but it could be light leak.
Same plant threw bananas last time. I think it’s just very stress sensitive. No light leaks. If I can think of one thing..the bananas seem to be related to waiting too long to water. I’ve noticed a dry spell preceding bananas on many occasions. Light leak can cause it but I think too many people blame a leak when in reality it can be many different things and usually is. Root issues and watering issues I think are more responsible for bananas than light leak if I was to put money on things. I believe that a lot of guys who flush their plants get bananas and assume it just must be normal for that strain or blame a light leak or some mystery. I think you’re somewhat right about thc receptors as I’m able to get high off the same weed now.
 

growingforfun

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Ya its general stress not light specific to throw bananas. I'm running a strain I've seen bananas on, and I had extreme light leaks I didn't realize until more than halfway through the run, no bananas.
Light was enough I could see kinda easy even
 

Veronavb

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Ya its general stress not light specific to throw bananas. I'm running a strain I've seen bananas on, and I had extreme light leaks I didn't realize until more than halfway through the run, no bananas.
Light was enough I could see kinda easy even
They will seed bro the bannas on fems can come and go quick. If u fixed ure leaks unless strain is a hermie one. Should not have hermed anymore, Also when u over feed the plnts late bloom. just trying to stay alive to it puts a flower out so next year it can come bak
 

danjac82

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They will seed bro the bannas on fems can come and go quick. If u fixed ure leaks unless strain is a hermie one. Should not have hermed anymore, Also when u over feed the plnts late bloom. just trying to stay alive to it puts a flower out so next year it can come bak
I’m still trying to figure out why some of my plants throw bananas after week 8. Watering related I’m sure but there’s been other plants that seemed perfect and I just couldn’t figure it out. I thought plants that throw bananas aren’t genetic hermie but can be genetically predispositioned to be sensitive.
 
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