400w Querkle Grow

And no I dont use a bubble cloner or anything.

Just use a small Rockwool cube and water it with a mix of h2o2 florablend and a touch of floralicious plus to come to about 100 ppm. That mix should work fine in an bubble cloner too though

Oops, haha... well still at least 10x more (which makes a lot more sense) so that's fine.
I'll have to try the cloner with h2o2 again... maybe some other factor I haven't accounted for caused the problem.

silverpanic99 said:

this is the link for the dwc system where he uses h2o2 I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUr670ShjsI

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Thank you... I'll take a look. I've been interested in trying dwc in the future so this should be interesting.

a lot of people I know are running dwc and love it. i am trying to stick with organics just a personal preference.

It looks pretty easy and I'm all about low maintenance. I think the only thing I'd really need that I don't have now is a ppm meter.

good tools do make the job easier...

Today is 2 weeks of 12/12.


Some pics:





And some stats:







It's basically taken up all the available space in the tent, so luckily the majority of the growth should be over at this point.

I really like the chart of measurements! +rep

forgetiwashere said:

Thats .7 not 7 it should still be fairly weak.

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psyte said:

Oops, haha... well still at least 10x more (which makes a lot more sense) so that's fine.
I'll have to try the cloner with h2o2 again... maybe some other factor I haven't accounted for caused the problem.

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Wow my math skills were fucked yesterday. A 50% solution at .7ml/gal would be equivalent to 11.66ml/gal of 3% solution. I bumped mine up to 15ml/gal yesterday, but I haven't run it yet today. I have 4 gal in the reservoir, so luckily it's easy to fix by removing 1 gallon then mixing up 1 new gallon w/o h2o2 to replace it... which would bring it to 11.25ml/gal.

silverpanic99 said:

I really like the chart of measurements! +rep

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Thank you!

Hey psyte! great looking plant first of all, lookin pretty fuckin big. In my waterfarm i dont use a PPM meter. every week i make a full nute strength resivoir and during the week i just top off with regular water, never a lock out/defficiency's. Actually i dont even know what the hell my PPM of water is.lol. never had a problem. Sounds like you need a bigger resivoir. the bigger it is the more stable PH and everything else stays. I love how simple the DWC sysytems are. The waterfarm has been extremely easy to clean and maintain. i actually feel like i dont do anything because how easy they are. I just go in and check water level and top off. I say keep a extra couple outside buckets avaliable you can take plant out to trim up, train, or just to clean the whole system out. It really allows you to spend time with your plants, making sure their is nothing wrong, train them, and just plain watch them grow.lol. The added gowth hydro produces is unreal! almost to the point where one has to see it to believe it. I know did.lol. Only thing that is that you can really only run one strain at a time. or maybe some really close genetics. Since flushing would happen at different times with different plants i think it might hurt yield a little bit. Which is why when im done traveling ill be a dirtbagger doing vertical. i can then run serveral several strains and not have to worry that every strain likes the same nutes. I feel that my querkle has stretched the same amount as yours and maybe near the end of its stretch. As yours stopped it bigs stretch on its third week (i am on my 3rd week as of today). Seems like i have 2 more weeks till these things start packing on some wieght, im using your records to judge mine off of.

L,
I was hoping you'd have some input on dwc for me, so thanks for sharing your experience with it. The more I read, the more I want to try it. It seems funny to me that so many people, like myself, start with soil because it seems like it would be the easiest way to grow, but I'm starting to see that is not really the case... especially with something like dwc that makes hydro easy and accessible to even small time growers.

Sounds like your querkle is doing great. Next time you have a chance to take some pics I'd love to see it.

In a sense soil is easier only because its so damn forgiving.lol. you can almost fuck up the whole grow and still gettin some sort of smoke out of it. Not in hydro, shit will end quick if your not careful. But by seeing your attention to detail in these grows so far you will do great. DWC are great cause even if the power is out there is no chance of plants dieing (a little insurance is always good) vs. flood where you would have to hand water to keep plants alive. How many plants do you plan on flowering at a time or can fit? im guessing 4 would problably fill your tent. Connect them all together and have another control bucket outside the tent. Couple reasons: Checking PH/water level is a bitch and almost impossible when plants get bigger, emptying the water out each week would consist of a pump rather then hand dumping each bucket, filling it up is easier, allows to have a Scrog, and a couple other im forgetting right now (its 4:20).lol. Growth is quicker so turn over is faster allowing more grows per year. Watch the temp though!! i fucked up and let the water get a little to warm and algae starting growing, root rot took place. fortunately ive said it and now flowering great with bright fuzzy white roots. I'd love to see it to but will have to wait till tommrow fpr pictures. Read an interesting article that you might enjoy https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html?highlight=riddleme I might try this myself (the drowning)

I could definitely fit 4 plants in there, but I'm not sure if I want to. I am really liking growing just one big bush in there because it's so much less work just caring for one plant in both veg and flower. But doing dwc could definitely reduce the workload, so I might consider it. I really need to do some more research but you've got me very interested.

You mentioned the algae growth... do you use h2o2 or does that not stop algae from growing?

And that's a great article you found. I'm a big fan of riddleme's stuff. I've never flushed because I don't see any real evidence for it and believe it is clearly one of the myths about growing that makes no botanical sense. I've been smoking on and off for 17 years and I would know damn well if the "excess" nitrogen from not flushing affected taste... it definitely does not. The drowning thing is very interesting too and I may do it with the one currently in flower when it's ready. I actually would want to do a new method of his where you just pour in boiling water and immediately kill the roots instead of waiting for it to drown. I didn't do it on the last grow because I grew in bags, but this time I have a nice sturdy bucket so I just might go for it.

i do not use H202. i really should get some but probably wont this round. my bucket and resivoir sits right on basement concrete floor so its keep its pretty cold. when i saw algae i covered the top of the bucket dumped the nutes and cleaned the sytem. Ran straight water for a couple days and waited for some nice white roots pop out. then dumped the water and refilled with full strength nutes. Worked fine and now the bucket has nice white hairy roots. Riddleme3 is pretty awesome and has great insight! Boiling the roots??? i guess i missed that one.lol. can i please have that link or is it in the same thread?? I also have been reading on your northern lights special, seems very interesting even though there isnt a picture of it.

psyte said:

Unless this next run of querkle grown as a bush turns out a lot better, I'm probably not going to grow it again. Shame I bought 10 seeds and only used 4... should have got the 5 pack. Oh well. Live and learn.

Just ordered some KC Brains Northern Lights Special for my next grow. This breeder has amazing prices and is recommended by a grower I respect immensely (riddleme).

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Hmmmm the mistake I made was ordering the 10 pack and busting ALL of them, 9 poped, sprouted, & grew. 2 Showed male preflowers (and met their end early...) and 7 showed female preflowers (2white hairs)... Now I have 7 Phenos to grow out and pick from! I'm gonna do a SOB (Sea of Bush) with 1 cut from each. They are all similar but each one is a little different...

psyte said:

Yeah it's so-so as far as purps go. I've seen stuff waaaaay more purple than this. Maybe there's other phenos that are more purple. Pushing it with making the room colder maybe would work too.

I definitely recommend making a solvent based hash. It's cheap and easy to do. And every grower ends up with super high tolerance so it's nice to have something that can put you on your ass in a couple hits. I'll post some pics when I make it.

My next plant is finishing it's 36hr dark period tonight. How's yours doing? Almost a week into 12/12 by now, yeah?

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Out of my 7 only 3 have purple undertones on the main veins under the leaves. Only 1 of them having solid purple under there almost to the tips! The other 2 have only half as much or less under there... The rest ZERO purple under the fans.

Do yours have any purple under the fan leaves on the veins of each finger? I'm thinking my super purple one is gonna be the shit lol

I'll try and post up some pics later... Subbed!

psyte said:

How big do you plan on vegging them (keeping in mind this strain vegges very slow)?
I don't think this strain is considered much of a yeilder, but I would think with a setup as good as yours that if you veg topped bushes to at least 18" tall before putting them to 12/12 that 4-6oz is a reasonable expectation.

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I cut & pasted this off Sub's website

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3) Yield-Medium to heavy if extended veg time is given mainly due to bud density.

5) Best way to grow-Vegged to a large bush Or untopped in scrog.[/FONT]

psyte said:

Today is 2 weeks of 12/12.


Some pics:



And some stats:

Days 12/12	Height	Growth	Width	Growth
0	19.0"	n/a	29.5"	n/a
7 ​	24.0"	5.0"	37.0"	7.5"
14 ​	30.0"	6.0"	42.0"	5.0"

It's basically taken up all the available space in the tent, so luckily the majority of the growth should be over at this point.

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"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to psyte again."

I tired bro, lol, thanks for posting up these Pics & ESPECIALLY these H/W measurements man, this is going to be tremendously helpful in knowing how big to veg these purple beasts to fit them just right in the flower room! Thanks Again Dude!

BlazinL said:

i do not use H202. i really should get some but probably wont this round. my bucket and resivoir sits right on basement concrete floor so its keep its pretty cold. when i saw algae i covered the top of the bucket dumped the nutes and cleaned the sytem. Ran straight water for a couple days and waited for some nice white roots pop out. then dumped the water and refilled with full strength nutes. Worked fine and now the bucket has nice white hairy roots. Riddleme3 is pretty awesome and has great insight! Boiling the roots??? i guess i missed that one.lol. can i please have that link or is it in the same thread?? I also have been reading on your northern lights special, seems very interesting even though there isnt a picture of it.

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Not sure if he discussed it here. They talk about it a lot on his site, riddlem3.com (I think you have to register to see the forums). I don't have a specific link, but I'll see if I can find it later.

(Mods, if it's not okay to link there, feel free to edit my post)

I can't find any decent pics of the NLS either, but a lot of growers I respect are into it so that's good enough for me. I'll be sure to post pics once I start growing it.

AzCannaMan said:

Out of my 7 only 3 have purple undertones on the main veins under the leaves. Only 1 of them having solid purple under there almost to the tips! The other 2 have only half as much or less under there... The rest ZERO purple under the fans.

Do yours have any purple under the fan leaves on the veins of each finger? I'm thinking my super purple one is gonna be the shit lol

I'll try and post up some pics later... Subbed!

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The two phenos I have were both fairly purple but nothing spectacular... in both it first appeared between the veins of some of the upper fans.
I'd love to see some pics. Especially the super purple one, sounds like you got the pheno everyone's after.

AzCannaMan said:

I cut & pasted this off Sub's website

3) Yield-Medium to heavy if extended veg time is given mainly due to bud density.

5) Best way to grow-Vegged to a large bush Or untopped in scrog.

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I think his recommendation of bush or scrog is spot on. The canopy beneath the colas is very very dense and does not let much light through, so if there's not a lot of colas getting light you'll end up with a lot of popcorn... at least that was my experience.

AzCannaMan said:

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to psyte again."

I tired bro, lol, thanks for posting up these Pics & ESPECIALLY these H/W measurements man, this is going to be tremendously helpful in knowing how big to veg these purple beasts to fit them just right in the flower room! Thanks Again Dude!

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No problem. I'm glad you're enjoying the journal. It is a very slow vegger, so it's pretty crazy to see it explode under 12/12. I wasn't expecting it at all on my first querkle grow, so hopefully my info on 12/12 growth will help others with limited space to plan for it.
Thanks for the rep... sending some your way too.

Btw... how's the medical scene in AZ? My wife and I plan on moving there in the next year or so.