400W super lemon haze. from start to harvest(today)

The plants should have been on the other side of the screen so the backs of the plants would be trained to grow through the screen and get as much light as the fronts. What your doing is like growing a ScrOG and training the buds to go under the screen. It doesnt make any sense.

Loose the screen and they would grow the same anyways. Thats why this is never done like that. You would get WAY BETTER results, with all tops growing through the screen if you trained them like aVertical ScrOG. The other side of the plants bottom branch would now be closer to the light and would be a top and grow a nice cola instead of airy popcorn. The plants will still be growing around the bulb. Just now all the sides of the plant has equal light intensity.

Im telling you! You will double your yield if you listen to us.

\what size was that tent?

would it be just as essential for the yield to put tomato cages in each of the pots during flower? instead of the cage around the peremeter.

Dude, running a single bare bulb is pointless.
Think about it long enough and you'll come to the conclusion that it has no advantages over all other set ups (but many disadvantages).

It isn't really your first attempt at bare bulb growing, it's your first attempt at growing without a reflector.
Bare bulbs are used when you want large yields from small plant numbers. You grow say, 8 foot trees in big 50litre pots with 1000w bulbs hanging round the room at a mid point (thus virtually eliminating popcorn).

Like this.


That's bare bulb growing, for giving you nice big 20oz plants.


Doing something like this.......
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.....is a futile act and absolutely defeats the object of going bare in the first place.
SCROG is flat for a reason, when you learn why you'll understand.

^^^ hes right man.. wasting time and energy.. but props to trying something new.

I wouldnt agree Id say scrog combined with vertical grow is the best of both worlds. and have plants surrounding a vertical scrog when done right[ scrog inbetween light and tree] just means that the plants can take more advantage of the light since only the tops are allowed through the screen. without a scrog plants dont get as much light.

heres a great example! https://www.rollitup.org/vertical-growing/476391-jackberry-ladies-seed-vertical-scrog.html

ill just stick to what i know

@The Yourshire Man:
"Dude, running a single bare bulb is pointless."
Why is that?
I'm about to do exactly that, and as long as the HID-bulb penetrates all of the plants - the yield should be great.

I'm not growing large-scale as you, I'm simply using a single 250W HPS to keep myself with pot. Done it for years, but never tried vertical - which is why I would love to hear why a single bulb is pointless.

The Yorkshireman said:

Dude, running a single bare bulb is pointless.
Think about it long enough and you'll come to the conclusion that it has no advantages over all other set ups (but many disadvantages).

It isn't really your first attempt at bare bulb growing, it's your first attempt at growing without a reflector.
Bare bulbs are used when you want large yields from small plant numbers. You grow say, 8 foot trees in big 50litre pots with 1000w bulbs hanging round the room at a mid point (thus virtually eliminating popcorn).

Like this.
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That's bare bulb growing, for giving you nice big 20oz plants.


Doing something like this.......
View attachment 2139067

.....is a futile act and absolutely defeats the object of going bare in the first place.
SCROG is flat for a reason, when you learn why you'll understand.

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i ran the same setup aside from the cages around the side. just a straight 400w bare bulb hung vertically in a 4x4 tent. i yielded just under 6 oz from 3 autoflower plants. when it says right on the seed pack yield = 25g per plant. the 1 plant i got 62g, the others 52g, 41g. so i dont see how it would be pointless. my zigzags would def say different.

awesome grow either way, awesome job for thinking out of the box and actually having the balls to try something different. Props to you!!