4x4 grow room clean slate

winkdogg420 · Dec 9, 2008

Here is what i got

1 64qt miracle grow potting mix
1 64qt miracle grow potting mix with moisture control
1 5lb bag sta-green vermiculite
1 50lb bag ap sand
1 40lb pelletized dolomite limestone

i mixed all of the soil all of the vermiculite about 20lbs of sand and a couple scoops of lime (ground in blender)

also got some 3 gallon trash cans perfect shape for my room they have two flat sides so they fit together without wasting to much space!

Here are some pics !

Ps i already mixed it so there is no going back so no haters please lets just see how it goes!

Winkdogg

winkdogg420 · Dec 9, 2008

greenkine said:
define the problem what happens when you spray them?? When i spray mine the leaves sag but in the mourning they are all perky like a strippers rack.

they seem to droop and become lighter green??

420weedman · Dec 9, 2008

no pearlite ?

winkdogg420 · Dec 9, 2008

I couldnt find perlite but i think the vermic will do , no?..

Winkdogg

i think we have similar pipes

420weedman · Dec 10, 2008

the verm helps hold water ... pearllite helps prevent root rot, and gets more air to the roots.... i would be worried that the mix your doing would choke roots eventually.....
are you talkn about my pipe ?

1888cb · Dec 10, 2008

Yes - You need to add some perlite to your mixture.

winkdogg420 · Dec 10, 2008

420weedman said:
the verm helps hold water ... Pearllite helps prevent root rot, and gets more air to the roots.... I would be worried that the mix your doing would choke roots eventually.....
Are you talkn about my pipe ?

yeah i have a similar theme to my pipe... Ok i will go get perlite and mix it in before the transplant

winkdogg

winkdogg420 · Dec 10, 2008

Some say yes some say no... I am going to get it to counter act the vermiculite. But that is why i only used half moisture control soil and sand the other sand soil has better drainage. I have about 30lbs of sand should i ad the rest of the sand/?

Also on a good note i got a ph-moisture-light meter for 5 bucks at home depot! Pic to follow soon!

420weedman · Dec 10, 2008

winkdogg420 said:
Some say yes some say no... I am going to get it to counter act the vermiculite. But that is why i only used half moisture control soil and sand the other sand soil has better drainage. I have about 30lbs of sand should i ad the rest of the sand/?

Also on a good note i got a ph-moisture-light meter for 5 bucks at home depot! Pic to follow soon!

i wouldnt add too much sand in there, i bought some mg n shit at HD ...
returned one bag of MG, went to a local nursery and they sell great soil in the compressed brick 3.3 cf bag for 28 bucks. its a mix of peat verm and pearl with no ferts.. i wont be getn mg n e more :mrgreen:

and that meter you got works good for moist... but horrible to test PH. mine is WAY off, the chemical test kit is better. :joint:

winkdogg420 · Dec 10, 2008

I figured for 5 bucks it wouldnt be super duper but it is at least gona tell me about major PH changes untill my digital comes! As far as the soil goes i have many nurseries around but i cant bring bugs into the house and i never saw a good soil that didnt have bugs ya know!

WINKDOGG

420weedman · Dec 10, 2008

winkdogg420 said:
I figured for 5 bucks it wouldnt be super duper but it is at least gona tell me about major PH changes untill my digital comes! As far as the soil goes i have many nurseries around but i cant bring bugs into the house and i never saw a good soil that didnt have bugs ya know!

WINKDOGG

i dont know why soil they sell would have bugs ... it should be compressed and packaged in HD plastic. that meter will tell you when your PH is 2 ... it will read about 6 tho ;-)

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test it out .. tell me if eveything reads 7-8 PH?

winkdogg420 · Dec 11, 2008

420weedman said:
i dont know why soil they sell would have bugs ... It should be compressed and packaged in hd plastic. That meter will tell you when your ph is 2 ... It will read about 6 tho .
Test it out .. Tell me if eveything reads 7-8 ph?

i meant bulk weight nursery soil . Way beter than bagged but always has bugs. The ph meter reads between 6 &7.5 but i thought that was good. I guess its like a false positive. I put it in vinegar and then baking soda i get a full swing doing that maybe you got a bad one??

Ans what scale is the light meter calibrated to?

Winkdogg

420weedman · Dec 11, 2008

yea mine moves when i add that shit ... but when i test with the chem drops its completly different... im not sure never really use that light meter

winkdogg420 · Dec 11, 2008

Going to go to flower as soon as they recover from the transplant . Adding more lights asap . Pics of new setup

3RD PIC IS MY RUNTS LST-HST .HAHA

THE LARGER LEAVES SMELL SKUNKY!

WINKDOGG

smithb63 · Dec 12, 2008

I like your set up it's kinda the same thing that i wanna do for my next grow.... cant wait to see them take off after you transplanted them...

winkdogg420 · Dec 13, 2008

check it out

WINKDOGG

hardworker · Dec 13, 2008

fdd2blk said:
a 4 X 4 requires 1000 watts of HPS. good luck.

1000 watt hps will burn plants in a 4x4 room , 1000 watts is enough for an 8x8 2 to 3 foot above the plants. i have personal experience burning plants in a 5x5 with 1000 watt hps you dont need more than 400w

FLOWER PIMP · Dec 13, 2008

winkdogg420 said:
check it out

WINKDOGG

winkdogg looking good!!!

hardworker said:
1000 watt hps will burn plants in a 4x4 room , 1000 watts is enough for an 8x8 2 to 3 foot above the plants. i have personal experience burning plants in a 5x5 with 1000 watt hps you dont need more than 400w

the more light the better, if you can cool a 1000watt light in a 4x4 room by all means you will have something. 1000 watts in an 8x8 room would work but then again a 250 watter in a 4x4 room also works. but again the more light the better in every way.

hardworker · Dec 13, 2008

i was using a radiant 8 by hydorfarm with a hortilux bulb , 8 inch duct running 6 foot with one turn . the max temp it reached was 81 degrees with 31 % hum. and the top of my plants where turning a dark green and looking bad. i thought it was a nut problem , maybe to much so i flushed , remixed, and started again. nothing changed so i changed down to a 400 and they perked up and started to look happy again ! maybe i over built my room. ill post some pics once i figure out how.

hardworker · Dec 13, 2008

im gunna try it this way .

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