4x4 organic grow with pictures of buds

waxman420

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I would say its too close to your canopy. Thats a strong light, you can hang it higher for better penetration and less heat.
Hehe penetration lol
That's what I thought but the lower stems below 1st net are wispy mcnothings even the few I only left the top bud on. The ones above 2nd screen under light are nice n hard and full.

I keep thinking of this light as a 1000w replacement but it's more likely a 600w replacement. Damn salespeople.
 

waxman420

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The heat is nothing compared to 1000w hps . I've ran it without an exhaust for veg rarely got over 85 f.
I wouldn't even try hps like that
 

waxman420

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Here's pioneer3 withe the big leaves tight ass nugs and a lil eagle scout with surprising vigor and stacking .20190209_021346.jpg 20190209_021426.jpg 20190209_021551.jpg
 

waxman420

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Found this in the gelato tonight
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Yup
20190211_064012.jpg it's small only a tiny bit but its PM.... bud snipped off and the surrounding flowers got hit with white wash it's the only thing I will spray on my flowers. I hate PM. I moved dehumidifier to other tent as it was only taking 1 or 2 cups of water out per night. I upped the air flow and will stay on top of the situation but this spreads fast I fully expect an early harvest before weekend. I will try and get more pics if I get any more I'm sure there will be. On the plus side this was a hidden lower bud with 0 airflow.
 

ShLUbY

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Found this in the gelato tonight
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Yup
View attachment 4280335 it's small only a tiny bit but its PM.... bud snipped off and the surrounding flowers got hit with white wash it's the only thing I will spray on my flowers. I hate PM. I moved dehumidifier to other tent as it was only taking 1 or 2 cups of water out per night. I upped the air flow and will stay on top of the situation but this spreads fast I fully expect an early harvest before weekend. I will try and get more pics if I get any more I'm sure there will be. On the plus side this was a hidden lower bud with 0 airflow.
ugh... PM is a biiiiiiiiiitch. I am sorry to see you have gotten it. monitor your day to night time temps carefully. keep them within 10 deg. of each other. try to keep your environment above 70 deg. F through the night, and insulate the floor with some foam or something. this will help prevent drastic cool down right after lights go off. those are the biggest factors when dealing with PM. after the grown, mist your tent down with water to deactivate spores. sulfur burn or ozone blast. PM is all out warfare in my book!
 

waxman420

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Yes I actually shut down switched locations because of it. I moved dehumidifier and I knew better too. Lights out I left tent open halfway not looking forward to lights on. I just stopped checking every bud site for bananas now I'm looking for spores fu$#
 

ShLUbY

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Yes I actually shut down switched locations because of it. I moved dehumidifier and I knew better too. Lights out I left tent open halfway not looking forward to lights on. I just stopped checking every bud site for bananas now I'm looking for spores fu$#
you can use H2O2 as a spray to deactivate the spores you see on the leaves incase you didn't know that. i forget what the dilution is but should be easy to find out. I wanna say its like 1TBSP/L
 

waxman420

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Ya so I've been harvesting the bottoms last 2 nights. Peroxide/water in a pump bottle works well but you know it's a battle.
If the spores make it to the bud I toss it. When caught it early enough I can usually hold it back till harvest just by cutting leaves and misting peroxide 1:3 h2o believe it's the freaking gnats contributing to this . I have a stupid strong fan 22 or 24inch pounding the soil root zone so the fuckers are hiding in the lower flowers. I'll order neem cake from black swallow.

0 evidence of PM on the church cookies

For the record I hate wet trimming and flat drying .
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ShLUbY

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Ya so I've been harvesting the bottoms last 2 nights. Peroxide/water in a pump bottle works well but you know it's a battle.
If the spores make it to the bud I toss it. When caught it early enough I can usually hold it back till harvest just by cutting leaves and misting peroxide 1:3 h2o believe it's the freaking gnats contributing to this . I have a stupid strong fan 22 or 24inch pounding the soil root zone so the fuckers are hiding in the lower flowers. I'll order neem cake from black swallow.

0 evidence of PM on the church cookies

For the record I hate wet trimming and flat drying .
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its not the gnats man. its the biological design of how mildew spreads from one plant to the next. one infection can release tens or hundreds of thousands of spores into the air. it's a parasite, doing what parasites do best! i'd be looking into a HEPA air filter. get a 20" box fan and get a 20"x20"x2" merv 12 filter. bitch will trap spores. tape the filter to the back of the box fan as sealed up as you can get it, and run that in your room.
 

waxman420

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Finally that sounds like a plan. Have you cured you p.m. issue? I started reading your thread haven't finished yet
 

ShLUbY

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Finally that sounds like a plan. Have you cured you p.m. issue? I started reading your thread haven't finished yet
yeah i got rid of it with the warfare i described in a previous post in this thread. it took me a year to figure it all out lol. I'm so paranoid about it still to this day.
 

waxman420

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I have a black and decker hepa with a new filter in tent but the blue cheese is a wrap coming down.

I didnt put a fan in the rear of tent I believe that combined with knat damage did it because my control of environment is pretty great. Clean clean try again. Now
I have to finish this up so I can prevent it from happening in other grow. 1st sign amber and gelato coming down I can move church cookies under a mars to finish.
 

waxman420

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Some PM damage 20190216_041813.jpg

And the lower gnat damage could be wind burn l guess.
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Crappy night for pics but I left .25 of the cheese I dont know why it is what it is till tomorrow.
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waxman420

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Cheese and gelato are down early
I would rather it be a week early instead of mildew on my buds. Tops weren't affected nor church cookies, i unwrapped church from the net and she sprung right up lol hardest buds I've ever grown nice forum cut smell . The wait is killing me. 20190219_2ccbud.jpg
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Almost pink in person
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