4x4 tray, 1200 watt sog E&F plant numbers help!

Hey guys, first time ebb and flow grower here...was convinced to give it a run after following AL B. AL B says to put around 20 plants in a 4x4 tray with no veg other than time under the fluoro during cloning. He says by doing this he gets 1-1.5 lbs on average. I am using 2 strains, GreenHouse seed co Great White Shark and White Rhino, both excellent sog yielders. My question is if i am looking to get at LEAST 1.5 lbs, hopefully closer to 2, would i be better using the 20 plants as Al B sugggested (about 1 per sq. ft) or should i place 64 clones in the tray (4 per sq. ft), if it will give me a heavier and more reliable yield than 1 per sq. ft??

Personally i would do about 2 per sq. Ft. because you want the light to get to the bottom of the plant and if you crowd it, can cause some plants to be stretched and fighting for the light. ou want them to ahve room to push a little and when flowering room to make lovely buds, and what lights are you using wanting that type of yield. hope u are using like 600watt HPS or some killer T5s like 2 bad boy 4 ft 16 tube beasts

ide got an 4x8 and i went 1 plant per sqf and its a mess but i vegged mine to 30Inches. so if you keep im small maybe go 2 per square but remmember theyll go 2-3 time size during flowering so your 6 inch plant could be 18inches when done flowering. and if you get shitty clones no way will you yeild any where near 2 lbs.

Ide look for teens with 7 nodes or more healthy and get 30 and resell the weeker ones when space gets tight or make im all fit by add some make shift trays next to yours.

Follow Al's routine to the letter. It's very detailed and will carry you to harvest with a well laid out plan. Next round you can start to experiment with the knowledge you have gained.
Good luck,
Fred

Alright cool thanks guys, so what im picking up is itd b a safe bet to run around 2 plants per sq. ft(around 32 in total) with some decent node development, maybe vegged till teen height around(5-7 nodes) which shud b no issue, i took some beastly cuts from my mothers(average 6- inches, and those puppies r chillen out in the ez cloner. My plan is to run an indentical setup to Al B, instead i will be using 2 4x8 trays, same principle, just diff set up and plant rotation. Over each 4x8 i will run 3x600 watt HPS (almost as much as 2x100's), and i am definitely looking to yield at least 1.5 lbs which i hear is no issue given the right strain and near perfect conditions which i will be able to replicate with my set up. I will do whatever it takes to reach my 1.5 lb benchmark, but i get the impression its gunna all be dependent upon how many plants i stick in there and how much they are vegged, as well as environmental shit.. So once again just confirming, 1-2 plants per square foot, with some veg(not too long as it would defeat the purpose of the SOG) shud b enough to reach my 1.5 lb goal?

Three pounds a tray is definitely something to shoot for. Might take a few cycles to dial it in. After all, Al B gets 1.5# a tray because, well, he's Al B. If we all had his skills, the world would be swimmin in weed!
Vegging just a week or so is a good idea with those strains. I've grown both and I thought they were kinda slow to veg. They grew about 100-125% at the flip. They got wide too, so watch out for crowding. In SOG, they should make fat budsickles
Fred

thx fred, haha oo yess..if we all had Al B's powers..
alright ill definitely let them veg out for a little bit, but damm from what ur saying it sounds like the stretch on these strains is pretty sig. so ill definitely keep that in mind, just aiming to get that solid 1.5! if Al B is running around 20 plants per 4x4 tray and yielding well over a lb, that translates to like 20-25 grams per plant right? seems a bit high/optimistic?, but then again this is my first sog run so im not one to accurately judge sog yield yet. Ive heard of alot of ppl running similar set ups and only yielding up to 14 grams(or b/w 10-14g) on avg per plant, in that case which would require anywhere from 30-40 plants to meet my goal. Getting any number of quality cuts is a non issue for my grow, but which way do you think would be most reliable to getting my yield goal? Around 20 plants(similar to Al B) vegged for about a week? or maybe 30-40 clones with less veg, in the same space?

The Rhino is more than capable of 3# a table, after initial dial in anyway. Two foot tall budsickles should do an ounce easy. I grew em to 3.5 ft. and got 3-3.5 oz. per pretty consistently.
40 plants on a 4 x 8 should be plenty. Much more than that and you could have crowding issues, although some people do 4 per foot. Sounds like a lot of work to me.
While I have a lot of hydro experience, none of it's on tables. Never did SOG either. I always figured if I was gonna risk the jail time 40 plants can bring, they might as well be trees.
Search for a dude called Stoney419. He was a real master of the table and SOG. Cool dude too. Also hunt down Krunchbubble. He has a few good threads on the subject.
Good luck,
Fred

alright im definitely gunna set my 4x8's closer to 40 in that case. Makes more sense to grow fewer plants slightly larger, amazing what a single week of veg will do. Thanks for the info fred, im def. gunna check out stoney419 and krunchbubble. Much appreciated