svchop889
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Do you use water elves too?
5 gallon pot start to end
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CrackerJax
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That was my echo...
svchop889
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that was my echo.
what was that?
CrackerJax
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Wait .... what?.... Can you name the only creature which does not make an echo when it calls out?
lovemug
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i think im going to just use 5 gallon pots all through i dont really trust myself transferring plants. for some reason i was thinking the roots would just continue to grow until they filled the pot but that is obviously not the case since they dont do that outside. taking a few days off smoking so my brain is a little behind and its making me super stressed out.
as far as sexing they are femenized seeds so the worste could happen is hermies but from what ive read barneys has pretty stable female seeds.
as far as sexing they are femenized seeds so the worste could happen is hermies but from what ive read barneys has pretty stable female seeds.
svchop889
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water elves.
svchop889
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If you drill a ton of drainage holes and use a medium with good moisture retention and areation it should work fine to use the 5 gallon buckets. You will just need to get your watering scedule down.
lovemug
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lovemug
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here is what i found on humic acid
HUMIC ACID — BLACK NECTAR FROM THE GODS
By Cindy Rea
HUMIC ACID is nature’s “black nectar from the gods.” Known by its rich dark brown-to-black colour, this organically charged biostimulant has proven to have powerful and significant health effects on humans, animals, plants, and the environment, demonstrating the essential unity of all living things.
Because human bodies are made of materials that come from the earth, it is often the case that materials from the earth are agents of health. Humic acid was used by ancient cultures and in folk remedies for a wide variety of illnesses. It is known to be a powerful free-radical scavenger and a natural antioxidant. Humates taken internally are believed to boost the immune system by attacking unwanted injured or dead cells, thereby decreasing or eliminating infection. Experimentally, humic acid has been used both topically and internally to treat and prevent infection in burn victims. The humates destroy the invading infectious cells, allowing the healthy cells to take over. Russian scientists have had measured success in trials using humic acid to treat radiation sickness in rats.
Ingestion of humic acids through organic foods and clean natural water from unpolluted rivers is believed to reduce or block the body’s absorption of heavy metals and pesticides. This may help diminish the buildup of cancer-causing toxins and pollutants in the human body. It is believed that humic acid is anti-carcinogenic.
Humic acids have also been employed as veterinary medicine therapy successfully using peat mull (extracted humic acid) to prevent the transmission of foot and mouth disease in pigs.
Before mega-production farming practices depleted our land of its natural goodness, humic acid was an abundant part of the soil. Plants and animals nurtured on the land ingested a balanced diet that included humates. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. Animals and soil-grown plants have been deprived of the many health benefits that humic acid delivers.
Humic acid can be extracted from recently composted organic manure or peat, but it is not as effective in absorbing and distributing micronutrients as the humic acid that is derived from Leonardite. (Recently is a relative term, which in this case refers to several thousand years.) The humic acid referred to as “black” in hydroponic formulations is the rich material extracted from naturally oxidized and carefully selected sources of Leonardite.
Leonardite is a naturally occurring hydrocarbon shale formed in the earth over millions of years by the chemical and biological decomposition of prehistoric plant and animal matter. Being highly decomposed, natural humus, and having been subject to a significant level of microbial activity, it contains high concentrations of the organic humic and fulvic acids. This organic acid concentration varies from deposit to deposit. Some of the highest quality Leonardite deposits in the world are found in South America.
Humic acid has virtually been leached from our agricultural soil, and crops have endured the deficiency. The natural antioxidant protection provided to plants rich in a humic-based soil is not available.
Humic acids help to improve the soil’s water-holding capacity, improve the soil structure, and help to maintain soil stability. Humic acids readily form salts with inorganic trace minerals in a form that can be more easily utilized by plants.
Humic acids promote vigor, disease resistance, and root development in agricultural crops. The result is faster growth. The acids assist roots by increasing soil permeability, increasing water retention, reducing water evaporation, and promoting the growth of beneficial microbial colonies in the root zone. The creation of a healthy, microbially active root zone environment creates stronger plants that take up nutrients better.
In a hydroponic environment humic acid supplementation offers many of the same benefits to plants that it does in a soil culture. Because hydroponic growing takes place in an enclosed environment, it is possible to specifically target plants with a minimum of waste.
Adding a humic-acid–based solution, referred to as “BLACK” in hydroponic preparations, to the nutrient reservoir will increase the efficacy of the nutrients, making both micro and macronutrients more readily available to the root zone. Humic acid’s high cation capacity serves as a chelator, which helps plants better assimilate all the nutrients in the solution. The chelation process helps make and keep nutrients readily available to be used by plants as needed.
Environmental stresses can cause irreparable damage to plants — stunting or delaying growth, prohibiting flower production, or even causing death. Free-radical molecules result from stress such as high heat or temperature fluctuations, too high humidity, pesticide applications, and nutrient deficiencies or toxicities. The biostimulant activity of humic acid black produces antioxidants that combat these free radicals, making plants more resistant to these and other environmental stressors. Humic acid black remains in the cells, providing ongoing protection.
One of the organic compounds in humic acid black is carbon, which manufactures sugars in plants. Sugars are especially important during flowering because plants require an increased amount of carbohydrates to produce fruit. The carbohydrate infusion delivered in humic acid black will also organically enhance flavour, colour, and aroma of fruit.
Seed germination is accelerated when humic acid black is added. Humic acid’s effect on seed germination is similar to its effect on rooted plants. Humic acid, carrying both micronutrients and water, is drawn into the seed through the pore, stimulating growth of the radical. Not only do they germinate faster but also there is a higher percentage of seeds germinating.
Beneficial bacteria and fungi reproduction created in the presence of humic acid black biologically increase plant growth. The microbial activity produced by these bacteria and fungi are excellent root stimulators. Humic acid black has also been shown to lower pH to a more neutral level, helping with the availability of nutrients. All this translates into healthier, stronger, and more pest-resistant plants.
Humic acid black is an environmentally safe biostimulant that can be used throughout the entire growth cycle. The addition of humic acid black to a high-quality nutrient regimen will result in superior quality crop production, whether it is through soil or hydroponic cultivation. The crops will, in turn, be ingested by animals and humans, enriching the diet of the entire food chain.
HUMIC ACID — BLACK NECTAR FROM THE GODS
By Cindy Rea
HUMIC ACID is nature’s “black nectar from the gods.” Known by its rich dark brown-to-black colour, this organically charged biostimulant has proven to have powerful and significant health effects on humans, animals, plants, and the environment, demonstrating the essential unity of all living things.
Because human bodies are made of materials that come from the earth, it is often the case that materials from the earth are agents of health. Humic acid was used by ancient cultures and in folk remedies for a wide variety of illnesses. It is known to be a powerful free-radical scavenger and a natural antioxidant. Humates taken internally are believed to boost the immune system by attacking unwanted injured or dead cells, thereby decreasing or eliminating infection. Experimentally, humic acid has been used both topically and internally to treat and prevent infection in burn victims. The humates destroy the invading infectious cells, allowing the healthy cells to take over. Russian scientists have had measured success in trials using humic acid to treat radiation sickness in rats.
Ingestion of humic acids through organic foods and clean natural water from unpolluted rivers is believed to reduce or block the body’s absorption of heavy metals and pesticides. This may help diminish the buildup of cancer-causing toxins and pollutants in the human body. It is believed that humic acid is anti-carcinogenic.
Humic acids have also been employed as veterinary medicine therapy successfully using peat mull (extracted humic acid) to prevent the transmission of foot and mouth disease in pigs.
Before mega-production farming practices depleted our land of its natural goodness, humic acid was an abundant part of the soil. Plants and animals nurtured on the land ingested a balanced diet that included humates. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. Animals and soil-grown plants have been deprived of the many health benefits that humic acid delivers.
Humic acid can be extracted from recently composted organic manure or peat, but it is not as effective in absorbing and distributing micronutrients as the humic acid that is derived from Leonardite. (Recently is a relative term, which in this case refers to several thousand years.) The humic acid referred to as “black” in hydroponic formulations is the rich material extracted from naturally oxidized and carefully selected sources of Leonardite.
Leonardite is a naturally occurring hydrocarbon shale formed in the earth over millions of years by the chemical and biological decomposition of prehistoric plant and animal matter. Being highly decomposed, natural humus, and having been subject to a significant level of microbial activity, it contains high concentrations of the organic humic and fulvic acids. This organic acid concentration varies from deposit to deposit. Some of the highest quality Leonardite deposits in the world are found in South America.
Humic acid has virtually been leached from our agricultural soil, and crops have endured the deficiency. The natural antioxidant protection provided to plants rich in a humic-based soil is not available.
Humic acids help to improve the soil’s water-holding capacity, improve the soil structure, and help to maintain soil stability. Humic acids readily form salts with inorganic trace minerals in a form that can be more easily utilized by plants.
Humic acids promote vigor, disease resistance, and root development in agricultural crops. The result is faster growth. The acids assist roots by increasing soil permeability, increasing water retention, reducing water evaporation, and promoting the growth of beneficial microbial colonies in the root zone. The creation of a healthy, microbially active root zone environment creates stronger plants that take up nutrients better.
In a hydroponic environment humic acid supplementation offers many of the same benefits to plants that it does in a soil culture. Because hydroponic growing takes place in an enclosed environment, it is possible to specifically target plants with a minimum of waste.
Adding a humic-acid–based solution, referred to as “BLACK” in hydroponic preparations, to the nutrient reservoir will increase the efficacy of the nutrients, making both micro and macronutrients more readily available to the root zone. Humic acid’s high cation capacity serves as a chelator, which helps plants better assimilate all the nutrients in the solution. The chelation process helps make and keep nutrients readily available to be used by plants as needed.
Environmental stresses can cause irreparable damage to plants — stunting or delaying growth, prohibiting flower production, or even causing death. Free-radical molecules result from stress such as high heat or temperature fluctuations, too high humidity, pesticide applications, and nutrient deficiencies or toxicities. The biostimulant activity of humic acid black produces antioxidants that combat these free radicals, making plants more resistant to these and other environmental stressors. Humic acid black remains in the cells, providing ongoing protection.
One of the organic compounds in humic acid black is carbon, which manufactures sugars in plants. Sugars are especially important during flowering because plants require an increased amount of carbohydrates to produce fruit. The carbohydrate infusion delivered in humic acid black will also organically enhance flavour, colour, and aroma of fruit.
Seed germination is accelerated when humic acid black is added. Humic acid’s effect on seed germination is similar to its effect on rooted plants. Humic acid, carrying both micronutrients and water, is drawn into the seed through the pore, stimulating growth of the radical. Not only do they germinate faster but also there is a higher percentage of seeds germinating.
Beneficial bacteria and fungi reproduction created in the presence of humic acid black biologically increase plant growth. The microbial activity produced by these bacteria and fungi are excellent root stimulators. Humic acid black has also been shown to lower pH to a more neutral level, helping with the availability of nutrients. All this translates into healthier, stronger, and more pest-resistant plants.
Humic acid black is an environmentally safe biostimulant that can be used throughout the entire growth cycle. The addition of humic acid black to a high-quality nutrient regimen will result in superior quality crop production, whether it is through soil or hydroponic cultivation. The crops will, in turn, be ingested by animals and humans, enriching the diet of the entire food chain.
svchop889
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well the peat has good moisture retention and It has perlite which is good. humic acids also good I would add vermiculite It retains some moisture and also reduces compaction like perlite. key thing is having the perlite and vermiculite, compaction could become a real issue considering the amount of time in the one pot so adding some perlite and vermiculite could save your butt. Are you growing organic?
lovemug
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im trying to i dont have a real great understanding of what is officially organic. im using fox farms 3 pack for nutrients. i dont have alot of experience, i grew an outside plant when i was 15 but that was years ago. About 3 years ago i took over someones grow who had no clue what was going on when the plants where about 2 foot tall with 4 nodes. They where in a horrible janky set up.
This is my first real grow with propper equipment and good seeds.
This is my first real grow with propper equipment and good seeds.
super2200
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its not that great if it does not contain dolemite lime to buffer PH, not sure what wetting agent is either but probably not needed.( wetting agent I know of is called soap) peat, perlite, mchoryzide whatever the fuck its spelled and dolemite lime is whats in pro mix or sunshine mix. The lime is one of the most important ingredients as the humic acids that help the roots really dont do much until a few months and you have already harvested by then. Your goal is good root system and the top of the plant will follow, the guy who mentioned he can grow large plants in small containers is losing out on yeilds as sure you can grow to completion in a solo cup but the root mass can only get so big and the top of the plant is related to size of root ball. So yah I can also grow a 4ft tall plant in a 1 gallon container but it will be rootbound and not as big as it could have been. YOu should not grow to completion in the 5 gallon you will surely over water, in small containers its very hard to overwater as the water drains so fast and the roots are quickly at the bottom of the containers, very simple to transplant when rootboud you flip the container over and it comes out shaped like pot the advantage of the transplant is that you can bury the stem deeper and bury it all the way past the first branch set after you trim them away and make clones, this ensures a thicker stem and the plant will explode in growth a couple of days after transplant. I think as new grower you run more risk of over watering than damaging from a simple transplant, you cannot grow if your scared to transplant why bother, cloning would be out of the question if your scared to transplant and dont even mention super cropping. Anyway good luck let us know how everything turns out
lovemug
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canadian sphagnum peat moss, horticultural perlite, starter charge, dolomitic limestone, calcitic limestone, and wetting agent. that is the ingredience off the back of the bag. im going to invest in some 1 gallon nursury pots. i have a horrible problem with stressing over things like this you should of seen me on my first mushroom grow.
super2200
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best used in organics but takes months to start benefitting at all, in organic soils that are recycled this is awesome but in most cases there isnt enough time for the microbeasities and beneficial bacteria to start breaking down shit. Organic soils are usually "cooked" for a month to make sure you get the benefits and of course when recycling living organics it gets better and better over time probably not that great at all first harvest but better as the organic enviorment is established thus breaking down all nutes for the plants to absorb so they dont have to do shit but eat, normally the plant takes energy to convert the nutes but organics will do this for you. great stuff but normally takes a while to start working well and would not use synthetic ferts as it will proabably also make it inert and waste.
lovemug
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im just trying to get through this one and a few more. there is so much stuff to learn ive been reading for probably 3 days straight now as the time gets closer and closer to get started. i cant wait till its 15 years or so down the road, i really wish the government would stop being dicks about laws so there was closer comunities for hands on help with growing cannabis.
growing organicaly sounds like it would be an awsome thing to get into but i lack the confadence right now and definatly lack the knowledge.
growing organicaly sounds like it would be an awsome thing to get into but i lack the confadence right now and definatly lack the knowledge.
svchop889
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yeah thats why I asked If he was growing organic. but in all reality he can add mycorhizae and bacteria with products like this: http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/biotone_02.html that will speed things up.
svchop889
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organics is just nature. just read and read and read. Its defiantly worth it.