5 weeks old, 4 1/2 inches tall. First grow, is something wrong?

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SmokingDoinkz

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So pretty much this is my first grow, only doing one plant for now. I have a 3x3x6 grow tent with a viparspectra 600w led on an 18/6 schedule, northern lights fem from royal queen, growing in FoxFarms Ocean Forest, havent added any nutes yet only been watering with nyc tap water. Temperatures inside tent are usually within 68-82.

Started in solo cup then transplanted into a 5 gal fabric pot, has been in this pot for 2 1/2 weeks now but Its been 5 weeks since its popped out of the soil and its only bout 4 1/2 inches tall with 6 nodes which i just micro-topped. My question is why is it so short at 5 weeks old?
Leaf color looks pretty healthy to me except for some minor light burns which has been corrected. My guess would be to start with nutes?

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What's with the mound? You want to bury the plant when you transplant. It looks pretty green so it's getting plenty of nutes from the Fox Farms soil. It does look dry. Maybe water it more? How close is the light. I keep plants short and squat by putting the light right up next to them sometimes. But I use the HO T5's and they don't burn the plants.
 
xtsho said:
What's with the mound? You want to bury the plant when you transplant. It looks pretty green so it's getting plenty of nutes from the Fox Farms soil. It does look dry. Maybe water it more? How close is the light. I keep plants short and squat by putting the light right up next to them sometimes. But I use the HO T5's and they don't burn the plants.
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I didnt dig deep enough when transplanting and ran out of soil, but im gonna get more to try and fill out evenly. I have the light 36 inches away from the top of the plant, had it at 24 inches but its started to cause burns.
 
Just fill the pot up, water it good, and see what it does. Those spots on the leaves are troubling but I suppose it could be leaf burn from the LED's being too close. I'd still check for bugs to be safe. Neem oil as a preventive is a good thing in veg.
 
Looks like some kind of mite/thrip infestation.

Bottom looks like spider mite damage, the top appears to look like some kind of other damage.

Do you leave anything outside? Soil/supplies/pots/the plant itself?

Do you bring outdoor items into your grow area? Shoes/tools/fabrics/unfiltered intake/water pots?
 
Have you flipped the light schedule yet? On my first grow right now, 45 plant total. I had one that seriously wouldn't break 6 inches and the whole room was vegged for 6 weeks. As soon as I flipped the lights, it exploded and is now one of the densest best structured plants I have. Not gonna try and diagnose the leaf thing, just saying that possibly it's just her genetics and even being that small after the flip to flower could possibly still be a decent sized/yielding plant. Node spacing is beautiful
 
I was also using the viparspectra but the 450w. It has way to much blue in it. and I think that's what kept mine small. I'm no expert but ive read in multiple places that they have way to much blue in them, and blue light keeps plants small.
 
SPLFreak808 said:
Looks like some kind of mite/thrip infestation.

Bottom looks like spider mite damage, the top appears to look like some kind of other damage.

Do you leave anything outside? Soil/supplies/pots/the plant itself?

Do you bring outdoor items into your grow area? Shoes/tools/fabrics/unfiltered intake/water pots?
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SPLFreak808 said:
Looks like some kind of mite/thrip infestation.

Bottom looks like spider mite damage, the top appears to look like some kind of other damage.

Do you leave anything outside? Soil/supplies/pots/the plant itself?

Do you bring outdoor items into your grow area? Shoes/tools/fabrics/unfiltered intake/water pots?
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I actually noticed some critters crawling around in the soil bout a week after it sprouted. The unopened bag of soil was left indoors, never outside so they definitely were already in the bag. I added about a cup of food grade diatomaceous earth in the soil when i was transplanting, havent seen anything crawling on the soil, under leaves, stem or anything since then. My tent is in an empty room, i guess sometimes i walk in to check on the plant after coming from outside, but i dont leave anything involving the plant outside.
 
Wolfkiwifarms said:
Have you flipped the light schedule yet? On my first grow right now, 45 plant total. I had one that seriously wouldn't break 6 inches and the whole room was vegged for 6 weeks. As soon as I flipped the lights, it exploded and is now one of the densest best structured plants I have. Not gonna try and diagnose the leaf thing, just saying that possibly it's just her genetics and even being that small after the flip to flower could possibly still be a decent sized/yielding plant. Node spacing is beautiful
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Wow man, i hope thats the case with this one. Im still on an 18/6 schedule, i might give it another 2 more weeks then switch to 12/12.
 
Aolelon said:
I was also using the viparspectra but the 450w. It has way to much blue in it. and I think that's what kept mine small. I'm no expert but ive read in multiple places that they have way to much blue in them, and blue light keeps plants small.
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Damn really? Maybe i should have both veg+bloom switches on, ive only been running the veg.
 
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SmokingDoinkz said:
So pretty much this is my first grow, only doing one plant for now. I have a 3x3x6 grow tent with a viparspectra 600w led on an 18/6 schedule, northern lights fem from royal queen, growing in FoxFarms Ocean Forest, havent added any nutes yet only been watering with nyc tap water. Temperatures inside tent are usually within 68-82.

Started in solo cup then transplanted into a 5 gal fabric pot, has been in this pot for 2 1/2 weeks now but Its been 5 weeks since its popped out of the soil and its only bout 4 1/2 inches tall with 6 nodes which i just micro-topped. My question is why is it so short at 5 weeks old?
Leaf color looks pretty healthy to me except for some minor light burns which has been corrected. My guess would be to start with nutes?

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Turn on all the switches, ViparSpectra are too blue!
I have two of their PAR600, learning to use them has a bit of a learning curve, and yes, too damn blue.
Good news, your plant will recover pretty quickly when you expand the light spectrum, and it will start to grow well.

Bad news, you might have some nasty bugs. Get some good white light in there and inspect the shit out of it and let’s try to get a diagnosis. First step: more light!
 
dude,thats 100% a deficiency!hate to break it to you...
 

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Number one thing wrong ...... You ran the panel with the veg switch ( blue ) only.
You should have run BOTH SWITCHES ON. All the time. All the way til chop.

Individual channels are pathetically weak running one color. I have a Vipar ( still have it ) but moved on to QBs ( Quantums) since then but know what works with this light.

It ACTUALLY pulls 278w @ wall ( kil a watt tested ) so that " 600w " is pure bullshit ,
However IT WILL grow some plants. Height at 18" . I find seedlings will still stretch with this light , so may need to START your germed seed under a CFL , T5 or similar.

Once the first leaf set is done , push her under the Vipar . It Vegs plants like crazy.
Flowering is pretty good for what it is ( one large plant or no more than a pair.
SCROG works well with this light.
It does not have a good corner / fringe coverage so being in the most intense part of the footprint is a given . 15" to 18" is a height to keep .

It is a noob friendly light, but I liked the buds I got and kept the damn thing since moving on to better lights . There is many trolls hating on this panel , but I used it , I liked it so take the negative shit with a grain of salt.

It not gonna get you pounds but it will get you tight , dense , Terpy nugs.

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I say start another ...
 
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