$50 ounces for upper tier legal weed?

bluntmassa1 said:

lol,65 actual watts man they must be growin worse than Finshaggy if that's possible. lol

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

Seriously dude, I haven't bought weed in years.

And it doesn't cost me a dang thing now that I think about it! Everything I have purchased has been more than 3 years ago! Even the seeds are over 3 years old and I still got freebs to pop! May have to buy some nutes eventually tho.

So all my stuff has long paid for itself. I would say, including lights all other equip and supplies, genetics(seeds) and everything even the BS I have purchased and no longer use, my total costs to produce what I've produced is probably $400. And I've gotten a solid 12 ounces out of that investment. Thats like $33.33 an O and I still have at least half a grow worth of nutes doing the hempy method. I Can't remember how many times I've used the same MG perlite?

I smoke true 2 toke dank bru.

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LetsGetCritical said:

don't know, no pics she must be worried about putting us all to shame or something... can someone quote this post the bitch has me on ignore lol

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bluntmassa1 said:

So you started and bought seeds 3 years ago got 12 ounces and you are bragging? 2 toke dank? Maybe for someone who smokes what 4 ounces a year? LMAO, You wouldn't know anything about producing large scale and you overpaid to produce 12 ounces in 3 years you can get a 1,000 watt light for about $200 and produce 12++ ounces in just 3 months grow bags are dirt cheap 1 bale of pro-mix should do $30 leaves you with about $165 for seeds and nutrients and electricity won't jump too much then you can grow some dank.

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bluntmassa1 said:

So you started and bought seeds 3 years ago got 12 ounces and you are bragging? 2 toke dank? Maybe for someone who smokes what 4 ounces a year? LMAO, You wouldn't know anything about producing large scale and you overpaid to produce 12 ounces in 3 years you can get a 1,000 watt light for about $200 and produce 12++ ounces in just 3 months grow bags are dirt cheap 1 bale of pro-mix should do $30 leaves you with about $165 for seeds and nutrients and electricity won't jump too much then you can grow some dank.

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dbkick said:

It's not like they don't have the climate. I think they've probably felt the loss but still they aren't out of the game.

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Captain Ron said:

Twats a good word!

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

I call it the Walmart affect. Just like Walmart, put a lot of mom and pops out of business when MJ is legal. That's just nature. The strong survive and thrive!

That's good news for the consumers as well! Better, safer and cheaper product! What's wrong with that?

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

The Colorado store owner quoted below thinks so. And I agree. At the end of the day, cultivating great weed is NOT rocket science. Sure there is a learning curve, but the same exists growing high quality spices, tomatoes or even live stock or manufacturing anything else. But, like good genetic stock, the upper tier seeds, the nutrients, the equipment and even the education is easily obtainable. And like all other things, experience is attained over time and that along with the training is available right here on the rollitup.

I mean let's face of it, if you take away the costs associated with having to grow in stealth mode and the risks of getting popped serving the black market for a premium, being a great marihuana cultivator is no different than becoming a great commercial farmer of tomatoes, corn or any other consumable. And, some upper tier vegetables are available that are grown organically, hydroponic and indoors for a premium. But, even for those upper tier consumables the premium does not equal thousands of a percentage markup once there is competition. At the end of the day, people are willing to pay more for better product but at what margins can producers charge and still compete with every body else that is cultivating?

I think the days of paying $3000 a pound are coming to an end where it is legal. I could easily see it falling to $500 a pound or maybe even less, unless the Feds step in to control it like they do whiskey. Overall, I see super cheap dank coming available for consumers in legal areas, like beer, and for the connoisseur like many of the rollitupers, I see it becoming easier and less expensive to cultivate for personal use like home brewers. For those who want stupid large profits though, they will only be found in the black market.

For example, I've made awesome moonshine, and I can attest that making it in small batches on a stove top still(5 gallons of mash, maybe 1.5 gallon of 150 proof final product), it is more expensive to make your own than to go to the liquor store and buy it. After you purchase a good quality distillers yeast, the sugar, fruit or whatever your mash recipe calls for, you've probably got $10-$15 bucks in it. Which isn't bad except you also have to consider the time it takes, including the 5 or 6 hours to distill, and there isn't any profit to make the product for sell on a small scale. Yep, the Walmart affect killed it. And I think you will see that same affect in cultivating weed for profit. Affordable is a good thing tho for consumers.

Below is a great article on how an over abundance of great weed will drive down prices of legalized marihuana. Even the top shelf stuff. See the link for the full article.

http://www.theweedblog.com/will-recreational-marijuana-prices-plummet-in-colorado-next-year/

"“I would not be surprised, given the flood that’s going to happen, if we see $10 and $15 eighths by early next year,” Khalatbari says. “I would believe that. I could see ounces being sold for $50. I truly see that happening, because there is going to be so much competition [and] people are becoming so efficient in their production. They’re automating much more. We’re seeing best practices settle in. There’s less risk in operating because people are operating at a higher level. I think we’re going to become a very efficient industry very quickly. We’re going to see competition, and we’re going to see prices hit rock bottom early next year.” At that point, he predicts, the black market will dwindle away."

I like it! After all there is no sense in paying stupid astronomical mark ups for upper tier weed. I figure my costs for growing one dank ass plant, which would give back at least a couple ounces would be at most $60(very high estimate). That includes the genetics(seed), nutrients and electricity. $30 an ounce not counting my time and 2 o's will easily last me 6 months.

But, that's very small time like the example of making whiskey. If I scaled that up to an efficient commercial level, I believe you could get costs under $10 an ounce. Using natural sunlight in a greenhouse setting and buying your supplies in bulk quantities. $50 an ounce would make for a 500% markup! That would easily pay a good wage for your time on a commercial scale.

What are the start up costs for a tiny hobby grow? I do LED now and a decent one of those can be had for a one plant grow for $100. A fan $10, a hempy bucket($3) and nutrients for about $30 and would last 2+ grows. Perlite $10 and will last many grows. Add an O3 generator for odor control about $40. You can throw CO2 in there as well for cheap. That and some time is all you need! And remember, these costs will spread out over many grows. I write these costs off anyway, since, all hobbies and past times cost money. And I consider myself more of a connoisseur, since I enjoy my grow and mostly just smoke to relax in the evening and to help me sleep.

Yes this is my first post, but I've done a heckuva lot of lurking here and much respect to you guys for sharing the knowledge of dankness. I have never been involved in the commerce of weed on the black market and I say free the weed everywhere and let us all grow our own. This whole prohibition caused all the bullshat, drama, expense and violence associated with MJ, which is a total fail on the human end. It's just weed and it's been around for 1000's of years. Not hurting anybody. Making it legal makes it cheaper and a better safer product for everyone.

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hydroMD said:

When legislation turns recreational in your state, veteran growers will not feel a thing.

So many new people trying to grow that shwag will dominate the market. Top shelf will be just like liquor. People can buy a $7 plastic fifth, or they can go for the $60 bottle.

I could even guess that certain fad strains go for upwards of $10-20/gram

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tytheguy111 said:

yeah,,,, about 16 ounces


edit: so about a pound

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bluntmassa1 said:

Check out Johnnie Walker Blue Label $169.99 for 750ml connoisseurs will pay connoisseur prices for premium dank ass weed.

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

I only drink moonshine, clear whiskey now. 6 years ago I drank at least of fifth of Jim Beam every night. Sometimes a liter. And I often put a real hurting in a half gallon. Woah, the shakes the next day were fucking insane when I did that.

Then I learned how to make moonshine. It's really easy. But, you have to do it right otherwise you could kill of fuck your self up. Knowing how much time and effort going into making your own moonshine, you realize it's not really worth it unless your setup for quantity.

So now I drink the watered down shine off the shelf from the liquor store. It's pretty much the same and will get you where you wanna go. Thankfully, I don't drink every day anymore and it had brought my tolerance down to reasonable levels. I rarely consume a quart anymore.

You can have a steak dinner at some places for a $20 bill. You can go somewhere else and it might cost $2000.

That's marketing. The whole point of this thread was to realize that weed is just a fucking consumable plant. It's not hard to grow. It will get cheaper as they take away the black market expenses. It is easy to grow ur own dank.

Sorry if I butt hurt all you bitches little feelings out there that because just because you can grow a "WEED" doesn't make you a rocket scientists.

I love it. Just vaped my first for the day. After, yard work, car work and everything else I've done this morning to reach this point of chill.

Get a life fuckups! SERIOUSLY GET A FUCKING LIFE!

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bluntmassa1 said:

You do really good you can end up with a kilo 2.2 lbs if you got 1gpw but you really got to go nuts for that with a good yielding mother or vertical can definitely do it.

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tytheguy111 said:

Get some sented vaginal wipes

That's what my fuck buddy does and her pussy is spic and span!!!

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bluntmassa1 said:

Check out Johnnie Walker Blue Label $169.99 for 750ml connoisseurs will pay connoisseur prices for premium dank ass weed.

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

I only drink moonshine, clear whiskey now. 6 years ago I drank at least of fifth of Jim Beam every night. Sometimes a liter. And I often put a real hurting in a half gallon. Woah, the shakes the next day were fucking insane when I did that.

Then I learned how to make moonshine. It's really easy. But, you have to do it right otherwise you could kill of fuck your self up. Knowing how much time and effort going into making your own moonshine, you realize it's not really worth it unless your setup for quantity.

So now I drink the watered down shine off the shelf from the liquor store. It's pretty much the same and will get you where you wanna go. Thankfully, I don't drink every day anymore and it had brought my tolerance down to reasonable levels. I rarely consume a quart anymore.

You can have a steak dinner at some places for a $20 bill. You can go somewhere else and it might cost $2000.

That's marketing. The whole point of this thread was to realize that weed is just a fucking consumable plant. It's not hard to grow. It will get cheaper as they take away the black market expenses. It is easy to grow ur own dank.

Sorry if I butt hurt all you bitches little feelings out there that because just because you can grow a "WEED" doesn't make you a rocket scientists.

I love it. Just vaped my first for the day. After, yard work, car work and everything else I've done this morning to reach this point of chill.

Get a life fuckups! SERIOUSLY GET A FUCKING LIFE!

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GrowUrOwnDank said:

Boy. I'm hardcore former USMC. I have grown some weed. It's all cool to me. I smoke. I quit pillin years ago. I work an everyday job. I worked my ass off in the yard for a long time today. I Ordered expensive perlite today for my banana tree. I planted fruit seedlings. And I'm planning a serious verticle outdoor hydro vegetable grow.

Man, love you brother but, you really need to get a life. This RIU digital existence is cool and all, just don't let it be your existence. Weed is cool, many make it out to be "glamorous". It's really just a plant.

Peace.

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