$5000 + grow room and my buds suck

donpablo said:

i love it to. but it it's like married to a beautiful sexy bitch and she dont put out. i have the equip to have been able to make the bagseed better.

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hahahahahhaha fukn nice well good luck with tht yo i dont understand wat the problem is neither

Dystopia said:

In my opinion your main problem in the flower room is the fact that you are using a 1000 watt Metal Halide and two 400 watt HPS. You have 1800 watts of poor light for large scale flowering, IMO. The 400 watters will not give you adequate penetration for big, dense buds, and the MH is probably the wrong spectrum for flowering. Replace all of those lights with two 600 watt HPS and you will see better results for less electrical costs, IMO.

I assume that you're using the MH to achieve some kind of full spectrum in flowering; this is a big waste of 1000 watts IMO. Instead, use a full-spectrum HPS bulb like the Hortilux if you want an extended spectrum in flowering.


Just my take based on what you've said so far...

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never thought of that but yea wrong spectum for flowering mh is blu u need dark red

but ive learned that using a mh two weeks b4 harvest adds resin to the mj, makes it slowly kills it so it protects itself by coverin itself

brush it off and try again.

so much for beginners luck.. sorry

hope this doesn't offend but i follow this guide to sick plants and it seems fine.http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

i grew in potting soil with miracle grow 24/8/16 and shultz 10/15/10 was my first grow ever and wife says medicine is fruity sweet with strong (not sedative) excellent effects. probably the strain of mj had lots to do with fruityness and overall plant health. (was an unknown clone for 15$) combo indoor/outdoor grow. lots of foliar feeding with weak solution of bath/epsom but not near havesting. galvanized nails in the dirt. ph was horrible but i corrected with vinegar. flushed at 10 days to harvest with 15 gallons water for the 5 gallon container. wife says my medicine works better then some of her gravol or prescriptions. i grow for her. thank God for people like you all that help here and post info and advice and support. i will try to payback and payforward all the kindness i have recieved here.

Here's the problem
"mid grade bag seed"

crap in; crap out

Genetics, Genetics, Genetics. Buy from seed banks and hope for the best! Bag seeds can very unstable, therefore giving you a lesser quality bud.

i have another 1000w that i use inmy veg room. i did stop by the local grow shop and picked up a 1000whps conversion bulb. $200 bones for the bulb but still cheaper then the trans/cap/ignitor.

bro order some seeds i love attitudes free fem seeds

donpablo said:

well the way i thought if i'm going to grow i better start with the best equip. i am a automotive and heavy equipment diesel technician. and have been buying tools all my life why start cheap and then have to upgrade? my flower room i have on a 12/12 cycle i flood the table 6x during that cycle. the ph is at 6.0 - 6.3 never more or less. the ppm are at 1420-1460 with foxfarm nutes and soluables. super thrive for a kick in the ass. the veg room on 18/6 temp at 80 deg and hyd at 45-55 ph at 5.8-6.1 ppm at 1130-1180 on a dripper system for every 3 hours for 20 min at a time

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Do you grow in straight rockwool or rockwool in clay pebbles?

yes the are in three seperate domes the are air cooled from the rooom the seperates the veg and flower rooms i keep the temp set at 75deg>i'm using a living room sized a/c for a 12x12 area. i used the fan out of a mobile home central air unit the reflectors stay so cool i can lay my hand on them. i use the heated dry air to maintain a little higher temp for theveg room 80-82 degress never higher

well no that is something i have not heard yet. as per fox farm nutes and soluables thay all have mixing inst for hydro. but i have no problem changing the nutes what would you recomend

ordered from the tude white widow and distroyer femm seeds. germinated 5 only one grew. the tude also gave my a roadrunner and mobey dick.

start in 4" rockwool the when i transfer them to pots i cover in clay med

try lowering your ppm during flowering.. it cant hurt..

hmmmm....you got too much going on...You should have started a little smaller....that much invested....You want some top knotch Clones...proven and tested...NOT seeds..I would say its your crappy seeds

I think the 6x waterings during the flowering period is what set your yield back a bit. During flowering not all that much water is being used by the plant; the roots need just a bit of water (enough to keep the plant from wilting) and more importantly oxygen surrounding them. Cutting down on water levels also simulates the onset of fall (not to mention that humidity + buds can lead to mold/fungus problems. The rest of your set-up is great man, I believe with that small watering adjustment you'll enhance your harvest.

i would start watering less

posting pics let me know what you think.

Where are the pix?
I also think you might be overwatering and/or maybe over-fertilizing. I use the GH trio and have found, to my detriment, that their suggested dosages can be a little hot. Although if you've seen no signs of nute burn it is unlikely, were your leaves ever really dark green? did they ever curl down, or up? I have one of my girls in an Ebb/Flow bucket and I only run it 3 times a day for 15 min, but it is a small plant....

I flood 3 times (10min each) during 12h. ppm 1000-1200 only. Get your lights as low as they can go.
Get some good Nutes - Advanced, GH, Canna, H&G. DO NOT US SUPERTHRIVE DURING FLOWERING!
Can't say that enough. DO NOT US SUPERTHRIVE DURING FLOWERING!
Keep res and air temps down - lots of airflow - low humid

The bagseed may have been crap that was cherry-picked.