Midwestsmoker419
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The medical is ridiculous hopefully in time it will drop for us. Either way I would rather smoke my own grown.
50'x100' build
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Kingsblend420
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419 reppin
westcoast420
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Like others have said, banking on upcoming rec legalization, which i dont see happening for at least a few years if that, is not a good idea. Here in canada since legalization prices have plummeted in legal and non legal markets. Legal producers are sitting on tons, yes tons of cannabis they cant sell. The grey market prices are around 800-1k per pound of trips. Unless you are growing absolute quads that check every single box, good luck. If you think getting 16-2k per unit is bad you havent seen anything yet. I'd kill to see those prices here. And as per your setup, i would make at least 2 flower rooms instead of one big one. Easier to control the environment in smaller rooms. Also feeding, im not sure if you've used coco before but watering once a week in 2 gals??? Ya try multiple feeds a day minimum. Rolling benches, pvc piping on each bench with drip manifolds for each light is how you would do it.
westcoast420
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Here’s an example of the drip lines and manifolds. I’m also running 2 gal coco cloth pots, feeding 4 times a day.
dtcharneski
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That's a nice setup you have, and thanks for the advice on the business outlook side, as for the grow stuff, if you go to my first post of this thread you can see the sketup drawings of my planned setup 2 flower rooms etc., I see the confusion with the watering, the once a week was only referring to my microbes to keep them out my res. I definitely plan on high frequency fertigation, just torn between hardline/bubblers or poly lines/individual emitters. And would like ideas on zoning off the plants, gonna have 5 4x40 rolling tables in each flower room. 90 plants a row 450 a room
hotrodharley
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I predict an expensive series of setbacks and disappointment. Seen it multiple times.
dtcharneski
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hence why I'm trying to plan everything right from the get go, measure twice cut once
a mongo frog
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I predict with this venture you will get laid many many times this year. A few guys but mainly women. Make sure to keep us posted please.
dtcharneski
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Thanks Bro!! Most positive post I've received thus far lol
westcoast420
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Your definitely going to want hard lines pvc for that size setup, dont know many guys running poly lines for that size setup. Allows you to have individual control for each manifold like ive got. In terms of zones, you can setup valves at each table, so you can shutoff a entire table if you want. I tried putting in electronic valves but they reduced the flow way to much.
Southernontariogrower
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Drain to waiste or flood and drain would be best. Nothing is as good as dwc for expedential growth though. Goodluck to you, wish I were in your shoes.
GrOwThMoNgeR
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Holy thick stems! You have stem steroids aye?
dtcharneski
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thanks bro, yeah if I did run poly lines it would only be on the tables. I'd use hard lines to get there, I just don't know what's more reliable a manifold or individual emitters. I'm really thinking about making each room 10 zones, 4'x20', 45 plants each zone. a separate res/pump for each zone- from my math 45 plants @ 400ml shots 5x a day would be around 24 gallons a day/ I can use smaller reservoirs, and smaller pumps( only have to move 5 gallons a time)and it will allow me to run multiple strains with different nutrient needs and also help in flushing when certain strains finish faster. Also it would almost allow for a perpetual grow if we just kept switching out zones. What brand electronic valves did you try? and how much water were you trying to run through them?
a mongo frog
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I've always thought some of these may be cool. Like I'd get 6 of them and some 1/2 tubing and figure something to water 10 at a time. Have 6 different manifolds going crazy no drip just pouring into pots. For now I just hand feed!!!!!
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dtcharneski
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yeah I've seen similar manifolds, I just think it might be hard getting even distribution with a bunch of those, well maybe if you were to put small valves on each to adjust the water flo you could make em work
westcoast420
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In a setup the size your talking about trying to do different rez's and run different feeds for each different zone will be a nightmare. Most setups that size run a single feed source, usually dosers. You can still put valves on each table or zone but trying to run different feeds will be non stop work. And you will be going through a shit ton of feed, I use 110 gallons a day in my 24 light room, and thats with half the plants in rockwool which take less feed than coco. In all coco i'd be up to 150 gallons a day. For a setup your size dosatrons is the only way to go as youd be going through hundreds of gallons a day.
westcoast420
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Heres an example of a basic doser setup, you can see it splits into 4 zones with sprinkler valves on each one.
^^^ this is the fatal flaw. To be successful you need a budget and the wherewithal to buy the tech you choose in the budget. If you have to convince beancounters you will eventually be doomed.
I'm sure you'll have the 'right' words that contradict that. I wish you well.
p0opstlnksal0t
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You'll certainly want to run dosers and open sprinkler is a great platform so is the trol master controller. You really only need two dozers for jacks. You can mix your part a with Epsom and the second doser for your calcium nitrate. I'd check out custom hydro nutrients website they have a similar nutrient line like Jack's hydro You can get it by the pallet I think cheaper than Jack's. I personally ran 1-in hard PVC from my well pump to a dab mini inline booster pump to a master control valve then to my dosers I also ran a normally open normally closed bypass around my dosers so I can time fresh water flushes if I need to. You will want to measure the flow rate of your water supply so that you can calculate the amount of drip emitters that can run efficiently at one time that will become the maximum you will want per zone. I like to run at least two drippers per plant just in case one clogs there is a second to keep the plant alive in case you miss it during your daily visual inspection. I run an inline filter before the system another one before the dosers and then another one where my hard piping meets the poly tubing at the plant site. It doesn't take much debris to clog those spray stakes I used netafim 10.6 gph emitters with 180 degree spray stakes. I like the ones that connect at the top with the tubing the drippers on like drip depot that come up from underneath are not well suited for small indoor pots they have to ride above the soil line by at least five or six inches so it doesn't kink the tubing.
dtcharneski
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thanks, yeah I actually would prefer an AAA setup, but would be really difficult to get dialed in on such a large scale