6 weeks in, hermie plant developing seeds in lower calyxes

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HawHaw

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Hi all,

Running an indoor 600WHPS soil grow in 15L Airpots with BB Allmix/coco mix, BB nutes.
Two varieties; OG Kush and LSD Poison.
Six weeks into flower and I noticed very swollen calyxes on the lower/mid branches on the OGKs. They are forming seeds, some are formed already. No sign of male genitalia anywhere in the room, so I'm guessing stress induced hermies :(

What's my best bet for damage control, i.e. maximise my haul as best I can now? They were all coming along nicely, frosting up and hairy; LSDP still mostly white pistils, OGK at maybe 30% orange.

Should I start flushing the OGK immediately and pull it ASAP before it fully seeds out? The LSDP aren't showing seeds...yet anyway. Just wondering what the best procedure here is to get the most, and most potent bud from this mishap.

Any help or suggestions are hugely appreciated.

HawHaw

P.S. I tried to get some pictures but my actual camera is broke and the quality on my phone isn't worth uploading :/
 
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HawHaw

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I will try to get a good picture over the next day or so, as per the forum sticky. In the meantime, any help or advice is welcome and appreciated
 
imcjayt

imcjayt

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you are gonna get swollen calyxes in flowering......hmm id think twice and do a bit of searching on net at pics b4 u do anything alse,,,,,,
 
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HawHaw

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Thanks for the responses.
Yeah I know the calyx gets pretty swollen normally, but I was looking and looking and so I took one off and yes, there is a seed in there, still pale green, but its definitely a seed.
If I don't get something from this I will be significantly out, and I won't be able to start a new grow until Spring, given my circumstances. I know it's far from ideal, but I just want to salvage something to tide me over until I can get up and running again. I don't mind a couple of seeds here and there if I can get the majority of the bud off, which is nice and pungent and looks great, apart from the obvious. The top colas don't seem to be seeding, but essentially I'm guessing some kind of stress has caused them to hermaphrodite, it's possible I may yet see male flowers appear, but fingers crossed I won't.
So again, should I flush and hang the plants before the seeding progresses if my intention is to salvage something smokable? The other variety is not showing any signs of seeding, so either it withstood whatever stress caused the OGK to herm, or else it just hasn't happened yet....
 
smokegreenshlt

smokegreenshlt

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Most of the time its not ur fault when getting a hermi...its genetics...with that being said...some of the best smoke I've ever smoked was riddled with seeds....I don't think it takes much from the quality besides the obvious...ding DA ding dalang ding on ur tray lol
 
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HawHaw

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Thanks for the replies people. It's not my first grow, and while I'm absolutely no expert, I've seen male plants and hermies before, unfortunately. Also, the calyxes definitely have seeds in them, not just swollen. I sorted out a camera so I'm gonna go get some pics in a little while andf hopefully that will help some. I was inspecting last night and I think I did spot one or two small male flowers amongst the buds. I have read that this can happen occasionally if you leave it to long to harvest, the plant turns "intersexual" in a last-ditch attempt to propogate new plants? Surely this isn't the case for me? I'm only six weeks into flower, they vegged for 8 weeks before flower. I also see that light leaks can do this. Now I'm pretty sure I'm good on that front, I will have to double check, but I guess if that's the case the damage is already done. Anyway, will report back with pics, although they will be lights-on pictures, I don't have a normal light in that room at the minute.
 
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HawHaw

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Ok, got some pictures which show the seeded calyxes, some general shots of the plants, and two shots of a lone male flower I spotted;
PICT0020.jpgPicture 1 : Seed growth
PICT0026.jpgPicture 2 : Seed
PICT0028.jpgPicture 3 : Seed
PICT0038.jpgPicture 4 : General bud shot from elswehere on plant - no seed here
PICT0039.jpgPicture 5 : Bud shot, no seed
PICT0042.jpgPicture 6 : More buds, no seed
PICT0045.jpgPicture 7 : Overview of top cola
PICT0047.jpgPicture 8 : Sneaky nanner at node at very base of top cola, none spotted elsewhere so far
PICT0048.jpgPicture 9 : Sneaky nanner from a little further out, centre of pic
PICT0050.jpgPicture 10 : Overview of cola of other seeding plant
PICT0052.jpgPicture 11 : Top view of cola of other strain; LSDP, which is not seeding so far.

So again, in order to maximise the bud I can get, what do you guys suggest?

Before this, I had planned on another 2 weeks and then 2 weeks flush. From seed to flowering was 8 weeks, 2 days. Currently just at 6 weeks of 12/12.
Should I just start flushing the seeding plants immediately?

Will the plants that are producing seeds stop producing THC and bud growth, and continue to grow seeds in more of the calyxes?

I'm additionally worried now about the appearance of the "nanner" shown above in picture 8 and 9. As I have 3 other plants which aren't seeding so far, I certainly don't want them polinated by a stray nanner.
....Help?
 
greencat

greencat

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just pull the nanners off when u see them,but thats a male flower in pic 8,keep looking,if u found one theres more,just pull them off,seeds arent bad,look at it this way,you will have fem seeds when all done,just keep a close eye on them,good luck
 
Mr John

Mr John

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Thanks for sharing the pictures, I need to learn that these things happen, I too would have thought they were just super swollen calyx's. And that is some serious frosting going on there!
 
fir3dragon

fir3dragon

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HawHaw said:
Ok, got some pictures which show the seeded calyxes, some general shots of the plants, and two shots of a lone male flower I spotted;
View attachment 2866441Picture 1 : Seed growth
View attachment 2866442Picture 2 : Seed
View attachment 2866443Picture 3 : Seed
View attachment 2866444Picture 4 : General bud shot from elswehere on plant - no seed here
View attachment 2866445Picture 5 : Bud shot, no seed
View attachment 2866446Picture 6 : More buds, no seed
View attachment 2866447Picture 7 : Overview of top cola
View attachment 2866448Picture 8 : Sneaky nanner at node at very base of top cola, none spotted elsewhere so far
View attachment 2866449Picture 9 : Sneaky nanner from a little further out, centre of pic
View attachment 2866452Picture 10 : Overview of cola of other seeding plant
View attachment 2866453Picture 11 : Top view of cola of other strain; LSDP, which is not seeding so far.

So again, in order to maximise the bud I can get, what do you guys suggest?

Before this, I had planned on another 2 weeks and then 2 weeks flush. From seed to flowering was 8 weeks, 2 days. Currently just at 6 weeks of 12/12.
Should I just start flushing the seeding plants immediately?

Will the plants that are producing seeds stop producing THC and bud growth, and continue to grow seeds in more of the calyxes?

I'm additionally worried now about the appearance of the "nanner" shown above in picture 8 and 9. As I have 3 other plants which aren't seeding so far, I certainly don't want them polinated by a stray nanner.
....Help?
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as I said, I would just let them go It looks good so far...
 
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HawHaw

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Thanks for all of your responses. I've managed to calm down somewhat after my initial horror ;p It's certainly a strange one, 3 OG Kush from one pack, two start seeding one seems fine, and a stray Ultra Skunk seed I had left over also seeded a little bit down low. The three which seeded are closest to the door and fan, and I've read that excessive wind or light leaks can cause this. Fan is on a timer to come on for 45 mins every couple of hours to push air, is not right on top of the plants and also is on the lowest speed setting, so I dunno. I checked for light leaks this morning and it also seemed pretty sewn up, so I'm still at a loss as to what happened. I've decided to start flushing the 3 seeders for the next week or two, cutting a week or two of my planned time, and to leave the other 4 as normal, and hopefully we won't see the same happen. Thanks again, HawHaw
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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It's not uncommon for a female to throw out a nanner or two as she feels her unpollinated life expiring trying to preserve her genetics. It happens. BTW, that seed looks about halfway matured, you might just want to leave it be through harvest and keep the seed. It's feminized........ ( that doesn't mean it won't also produce a few nanners ).
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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Also, a female throwing out a few nanners is NOT a hermie. A hermie displays both male and female sexual parts. A female throwing nanners is not a hermie, she's just a bitch.
 
Merlin34

Merlin34

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Yup... pull them off when you see them. The plants look great, let them go. A few nanners every once in a while is to be expected.
 
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HawHaw

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Thanks again all.
I've decided to pull the 2 most mature plants out a little early, probably in a week or two, and finish up the other five with a bit more room and light.
Spied one or two nanners since, but the colas don't seem to be turning into a bunch of seeds, which was my worry.
I will post some pics when I'm all done, hopefully.

HawHaw
 
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