600W HPS, Master Kush, Blue Mystic, White Skunk, and A nice bagseed Kush/hybrid....

Update...

They are coming along nicely still no soil pro..

Flushing the OK and 2 oldest WS's... I clipped a cola from OK and one WS.. the ones that looked the closest to finished.. just to sample them at 60 Day's.. they look fat but the tric's look clear and cloudy still.. BUT I don't have a microscope..

The Old Kush bagseed is amazing.. so purpley... mmm she look insane, they both can go another week no problem.. that's what the old kush will get.. the White skunks need atleast a week if not 2... one looking like it will go longer then the other..

the others, they have atleast 2-3 weeks.. they are on 6/7th weeks...

All comments are welcome.. good or bad..

advice is even better.. but follow up with proof of your credability if you give advice..

I can't wait to get another 600 to cover the room better.. and maybe a 1000 if the funds are right.. I want to get it quick.. since when summer hits I think the temps will be alot hotter.. I may not be able to run more then the 600.. we'll see



Also I labeled some of the last pictures wrong.. the master kush colas are labeled as white skunk... not this time

I cloned the shit out of the aero plants and also took some from the mothers to thin them out... I need to get ready for this years outdoor season.. Plus I'm thinking about going to soil mothers.. but I'm torn.. the hydro moms grow so nicely.. Proabably less maintance then 4-8 soil moms.. I might just look into a bigger res.. this one isn't too bad.. I have to fill it ever other day..

I will know which ones i'm keeping within a month i'd say..

I threw the areo vegger over in the flower chamber as close to the light parameter as I can get it.. I will just see what happens.. I don't care what happens to the plants.. they won't be able to hold their own weight without support and I don't think the system will hold all the roots and not clog the pump.... besides I need to revise it and make it alot easier to manage that's part of the reason I moved it out.. the revison just isn't in the budget right now.. ... StinkVegger V2.0 coming soon...


The Old kush bagseed is coming down thursday I think.. 9 weeks 63rd day.. She looks pretty done.. or almost there.. almost done the flush..

Updates.. bud shots.. those 2 cola's I snipped at 8 1/2 weeks.. 3 day's drying.. about to try the kush right now.. White Skunk and Old Kush... The picture doesn't do the kush justice.. so purple..

They are a bit early I think.. I don't have a scope but they look clouby at best.. the Kush might have some amber.. But they don't have the overall amber glow.. more like a shinny/cloudy
They will be done the 9th week on thursday The kush is coming down sometime within the 10th week.. I might snip most of it and let half go a bit longer to see what 10-10 1/2 weeks will do for it.. I would like to get a good gauge since these are all cloned mothers on the veg side..

Questions, concerns, or comments are welcome.. and encouraged...

Especially if it's constructive criticism..

The Old Kush just had a nice flush tonight.. she will come sometime this weekend.. The 2 oldest white skunks will be done in a week and a half or so.. started to to feed only water last feeding..

Master kush's... 1 will be another 2-3 weeks I think.. the other 2 earlier with one being probly a week - week and a half.. One is in a smaller pot (part of an experiment) Had Low PH issues with these.. 5.0-5.2 runoff.. which means the soil is like 4.5-5.. which isn't Ideal for soil as most of you know.. Plus it doesn't help when I overfeed then underfeed. they look really nice though..

The remaining white skunk's... one is a later flowering sativa dom which is just starting to fatten up.. and has atleast 4-5 weeks left.. and the other is more of an indica dom and she will be done in a week or 2..(started only water on her.. and she is starting to suck juice from the lower fan leaves..

The last blue mystic.. the baby blue.. in a small pot also.. she was in a tiny ass pot when I started to flower her.. Another experiement.. atleast another 2-3 weeks

Updateeeee

No scope but the trics look mostly cloudy and maybe amber.. no clear on the Old kush.. she's coming down soon.. The sample was awesome.. also the white skunk from the nice colourful one.. it was a lower cola but it was early.. too heady and a bit parinoid.... another week atleast....
it's been 5 days since I picked those samples.. they dried in 3-4 days and I started trying them on the 3rd day and jared them till today.. tried it on the 4th day and 5th day.. the last of it being jared for a day or so which I just finished now..

I'm flushing as you can tell.. they are almost ready.. I'm still iffy though.. that fat one still started popping pistils..

Here they are.. Old Kush, and the 2 big White skunks are 64 days give or take.... I didn't write the exact date the started flowering.. but all 3 were preflowering and flowered in about a week.. maybe 8-9 days some..

The rest are about 7/8 weeks..

The baby white skunk is so sugary.. I think it's a white widow pheno.. widow is an indica right???

I have another tall ass sativa pheno that I didn't take a picture of since it's in the back corner.. still starting to fill in.. I'll get some later.. I also left out the small blue mystic.. both are the earliest in flowering so there's not much you haven't seen..

I may stagger harvest the big white skunks.. might benefit me more.. but the small Old kush wouldn't be worth it.. we'll see

hey drr whats up. nice set up bro. just have a (?). how much nutes do you use per galon im in soilless and using pro grow bloom and karma . thanks so much dude. keep up the good work

Nice setup, almost like my 1st setup in my basement.



The only advice i can give you is more air/oxygen to the root system, add a bigger air pump or more air stones, or even some H2o2 Hydrogen Peroxide.

Once the rootzone is perfectly healthy, you'll see stuning growth on your plants.

DWC is the way to go

dankypot said:

hey drr whats up. nice set up bro. just have a (?). how much nutes do you use per galon im in soilless and using pro grow bloom and karma . thanks so much dude. keep up the good work

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As far as how much I use per gallon I couldn;t tell you.. I didn't understand soil as much as I do now.. I was over feeding huge and the salt was building up fast.. I hit an EC of 3-4 on some of them before I realized I was actually fucking them up.. I would water with EC 1.5-1.8 water every other watering.. and thats just way too much.. (note to self soil is nothing like hydro)
A growers best freind is his PH and EC meters..

I observe the plant after feedings and check the run off PH and EC then troubleshoot from there.. I now water with about .5-.6 EC when then seem to need it.. I'm using the hydro nutes in soil also since I will be changing to hydro when the mothers are done.. So I have to supplement the Nitro with fish emulsion through flower.. and I'm getting early leaf yellowing since I flushed and didn't replace enough of the emulsion..

Soil seems to like anything between .8 and 2.0 EC depending on the strain and environment..

Xan2 said:

Nice setup, almost like my 1st setup in my basement.

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The only advice i can give you is more air/oxygen to the root system, add a bigger air pump or more air stones, or even some H2o2 Hydrogen Peroxide.

Once the rootzone is perfectly healthy, you'll see stuning growth on your plants.

DWC is the way to go

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I have thought about the air stone and will once the money is in.. But as far as that goes.. the Vegger is doing fine as a waterfall DWC new style... muhahaha.. I took off the sprayers that kept getting clogged (I used on resivoir for the whole unit and the roots sit in it and I don;t care if I have to scrap them since I have to modify it.. I just wanna see how it does) and now the holes just waterfall down to the water and it's doing fine.. It can't handle as high of and EC but it's also not under the light the well.. just on the outskirts of the flower room..



I will look alot different in a couple months.. I have plenty of Ideas I just need money..

I will be getting another 600 possibly a 1000 if its plausable.. So 1200-1600w hopefully the second one.

I will be making atleast 1 stink bud flower system to try it out.. possibly build another if it works to my liking.. also might put in a small ebb n flo table.. and a couple soil and DWC buckets.. I want to try all styles since I have a decent flower space 5'W x (6'-7')L x 5'H.. I just need the lighting..

dankypot said:

hey drr whats up. nice set up bro. just have a (?). how much nutes do you use per galon im in soilless and using pro grow bloom and karma . thanks so much dude. keep up the good work

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Also about watering nutes..

If you water every other watering you will have to give less nutes per gallon..

If you water every 3rd watering odd's are you will have to add more nutes since they would have used more over that time... ( each time you do water only.. it picks up all the dry uneaten ferts in the soil.. hence the reason we skip a feeding and only give water)

when you water with nutes.. the plants takes up what it can and the rest dry up in the soil.. so next watering there is still ferts.. that;s why we do one watering before we feed..
Some feed huge and go 2 waterings before feeding again.. depends on how they react to it also..

I think every other watering with a smaller amount of nutes is best.. and even every watering just a fraction of nutes until you see it's enough.. then go one water if needed.. When you give the plant everything it needs where it needs it.. it thrives..

remember less is more.. although my ladies did fine for being abused like they were..

I harvested the top half of the Old Kush.. the other half will sit for another couple days to a week..

So beautiful.. but I wish I had a scope too look closer..

48 grams wet so I should get about 12-16 grams when it's dry..

It's rock hard.. fat buds.. but not a huge yielder.

I'm excited for the other fat White skunk.. also rock hard and still filling out..


God damn I can't wait for all of them..

Those master kush's look amazing.. and the baby white skunk is gonna be a potent basterd.. just covered in whiteness..


I also took a picture of the Veg side now.. Mothers doing fine.. getting a bit big though.. I may throw that system into the flower chamber when I get a second light since they will be over grown by then..

Cloner and the peat pellet clones.. which ever pellet clones survive I they might be soil mothers or the next wave to flower..
we'll see if I stay with the hydro drip mom's.. I may stick with soil a bit longer and hold off on the stink bud system for now.. I'm getting better with soil.. So I want to play around a bit more..


BY THE WAY.. I have been curing the early blue mystics I had to pull and they aren't bad at all.. getting better with the cure.. and they were way early.. I wish I had more then a small blue mystic left in there.. such a nice high.. a bit heady since it was pulled at like 6 weeks.. very airy but sticky.. I had to pull all the seeds out and I think me working the seeds out of the buds helped the THC degrade(like hand pressed hash).. I don't know.. or maye it made it sped more resin with it's last breathe..

EDIT - some of the veg pics are darker because I took them with a -0.5 exposure since I have the HPS in there..

thanx so much buddy, big help. one last ? if you dont mind. does liquid karma have all the micro nutrients in it? its not realy labled as having them on my bottle . but i assumed it did . thanx again.
those plants are looking very nice . i love the colors

dankypot said:

thanx so much buddy, big help. one last ? if you dont mind. does liquid karma have all the micro nutrients in it? its not realy labled as having them on my bottle . but i assumed it did . thanx again.
those plants are looking very nice . i love the colors

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As far as karma goes I'm not too sure..

http://americanagritech.com/supplements/liquid-karma

"Liquid Karma Contains a full complement of metabolically active and organic compounds that are not found in regular plant foods or supplements."

I assume it has trace elements and other organic goodies..



http://www.plantlightinghydroponics...a-metabolic-growth-stimulant-quart-p-307.html

"Botanicare Liquid Karma Biological Plant Growth Catalyst Quart

• Liquid Karma functions as a growth machine because its high metabolic activity produces a large amount of energy which is immediately transformed to growth
• Contains 7 major groups of nutrients based on their specific effects on plant growth and development
  • Fermented compost solution that produces luxuriant vegetative growth, huge flowers and flavorful fruits and vegetables
  • Amino Acids that serve as building blocks for structural proteins and enzymes
  • Vitamins which are extremely beneficial because they function as co-factors for enzymes involved in carbohydrate metabolism and the biosynthesis of macromolecules
  • Plant Extracts containing high levels of auxins and cytokinins for successful plant micropropagation (tissue culture)
  • Humic Acid that stimulates the growth of roots, shoots and flowers
  • seaweed extract that contains metabolically active carbohydrates, complex carbohydrates, minerals such as cobalt, strontium and iodine, and growth substances that are known to be beneficial for plantgrowth
  • Carbohydrates that provide the added burst of energy required to assinilate and metabolize all the ingredients present in Liquid Karma
• Use through all growing stages with your preferred plant nutrient"

And here's an update after lights on with the vegger in the flower chamber...

The experiementing continues.. muhhahahahahaaaaaa

update.. found some bananas on the White skunk 1.. she's such a fat lady.. i'm not sure if it's due to the end of her life?? or the flush/soil leach?? i don't know.. She's 67 days.. plump as hell.. no scope though.. Had to pull her.. I really don't need anymore seeds....

After extensive checking of the White skunk 3.. the thinner overdosed large lady.. she is plumping up nicely.. I gave her a good once over, and no banana's that I can see.. So she will stay till 10+ weeks.. more sativa in her anyway I think..

the rest are coming along nicely.. master kush's are nice and fat.. 2 are almost done.. and the fat cola in my avatar still has atleast a week or more.. The later flowering tall ass Sativa White skunk I have is starting to fatten up also.. but she needs a good 3 weeks.. maybe 4.. we'll see

The baby white skunk is so sugar covered.. it's insane.. atleast a week or 2..

The one and only baby blue mystic has fattened up and the pistils are dieing off.. filling in nicely.. about another 2-3 weeks..

I've started giving just water to all of them.. some for a couple waterings now..

The ones that need longer might get another small dose of nutrients this week..

They are all going on their 8th, 9th and 10th weeks...


Also I'm pretty sure most of the peat pellet clones took and the potted stink cloner clones are starting to thrive.. so they are the next round to go in.. Plus the Vegger that is in the flowering room with no sprayers.
(waterfall style) is still thriving.. sure at a lower Ec level.. but no issues yet.. Hopefully they will go till they finish...

The camera is with my sister at the moment.. so I will take more pictures when I get it back..

The mothers are overgrowing like crazy.. Going to have to do something soon.. trim them down.. I hate to throw potential clones away.. it saddens me.. Yeah I know it will be back in 2-3 weeks.. but still..

Great cloning technique that I use for soil.. is a jiffy pellet tray ( peat pellet starter trays you get at walmart, home depot, lowes, etc)... soak the pellets in water.. (I don't PH although my tap water is around 7 and a pretty good source.. I use water straight from the tap no sitting time even when I water my plants) Toss a heating pad underneath(I rap it in a garbage bag to keep it dry) *edit* underneath the tray your using) and turn it on med/high (I use high since it's winter right now and usually always toss it on high).. take cuttings, dipping them in rooting gel or powder( I use gel but I have powder) plunge them deep into the peat puck(I pre-poke small holes to make it easier to put them in).. try not to go through the bottom but damn close.. (I believe i went right through before and they root also) I have roots in a week sometimes.. no more then 2 weeks.. (it's been 6 days and they all survived as it looks.. and some I can see the roots shooting out the sides quite a bit....

So anyone having issues cloning try it out..

I also seen a similar device that is manufactured the other day at the hardware store that has a heating pad built into the bottom of a tray type deal.. pretty neat.. kinda what inspired me to share.. not like I'm the first to ever do it obviously..

Here we go again..

Old Kush, and the 2 White skunks have been harvested.. The old kush first half is dry and some of the best indica smoke I have ever had.. the First white skunk just went into jars.. (in the pic, I had to harvest a tad earlier then I wanted since I seen a couple bananas coming out on her).. The second White skunk is hanging to dry.. very hard and plump.. along with the bottom half of the Old kush..

The other pictures are the rest in flower.. 8/9 weeks in... almost there.. a couple still have a couple weeks.. some will be cut within one or so

I have put 3 more small clones that rooted and a mom transferred to soil in there.. so those will be the second round.. Plus the Vegger is doing fine.. they love it in there.. we'll see how far they make it..

I need to get some more of the Old kush rolling.. 3 reviews said they love it.. love how it makes them feel.. Total body buzz but a nice mix.. no paranoia... I love it..

I also found a seedling pop out of the one master kush soil.. weird.. a seed must have dropped down from another plant that was partially pollinated from the hermie.. I transplanted it to a peat pellet and we'll see

I'm also trying to pop some of those hermie seeds I dried out.. the first tester one actually popped so far.. it's a little seedling.. So I threw a bunch more out.. to see what I get..

So there's 2 White skunk hermie seed seedlings... so I wanna see how they turn out..


Till next time.. same bat time... same bat channel...

If you look closely at the top of the picture in the close up of the dry bud you can see the little bright yellow banana... actually a couple...

I'm not sure if that's from flushing them??? I don't know.. or pour genetics??

I did overdose them a bit.. who knows..

P.S. I don't recomend flushing all of the nutrients out of the soil.. a gradual water only schedule for 2 weeks should slowly leach the nutrients out by the time it's ready..

I think my excessive flushing/no nutes a week before stressed them and they threw a couple banana's... I won't be doing that again..

Update.. I harvested the 2, 3 headed master kush plants.. 65 days... They were plump and the leaves were pretty much drained..

I don't need anymore overflushed male banana's

Update.. sorry i've been lazy with the camera..

It's a pain in the ass to pull them out...

I currently only have the one white skunk sativa pheno left flowering.. I threw more of the medium sized clones and the mothers over there since the are bushing out..