700w LED 5BAND TRI-SPECTRUM

Wow, I would have never thought they weigh 30 lbs each! They just don't look that heavy but I know looks can be decieving. I really don't think you need to move them though, they look pretty intense the way they are

I personally would run many little plants intead of a few monsters. I'm thinking your light coverage would be better then. But either way I'm sure you'll get results out of those heavy duty lights. Definitely waitin to see them perform that's for sure!

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wow, how loud are those things? (basically assuming there is an 80mm fan underneath each grill?)

I was kinda curious if it was possible to hear the panels as well. And any updates with seedlings?

Man, I hope this gets underway pretty quickly. I would go for a 700w panel for $1300 if it actually can perform as well if not better than a 600w HPS. I can't grow in the summer due to the heat. LED's could potentially make it possible to grow year round which has a value much higher than $1300/light.

Totally agree with you there, except I would NEVER pay $1300 for something unless I knew(for the most part) how it's constructed. The panels are rated for 50,000 hours. You have to be sure you're going to get those hours out of them or you're paying for nothing, heat or no heat. One thing I may add laserbrn, is that ALL LEDs create heat. Most people believe LEDs create no heat, and this simply is not so. Anything running current through it will generate heat in some way shape or form. Where LEDs are good at managing heat is that the heat comes out of the LED from the top and not where the light is going. That's why nearly all of the panels have fans on top. Which makes one wonder, will those fans they put in those panels last 50,000 hours? My guess, no. So if you buy a panel without some kind of warranty you're going to be shooting yourself in the foot later on when your fans die.

Now I'm not sure how hot your summers are where you live, but it gets up to 110F here on the scorcher days. Luckily we don't have too much humidity here, but it still gets awfully warm. For $1300 I could buy tons of CFLs, a grow tent, all fans and ducting, a carbon scrubber, an a/c unit and likely all my soil and nutrient supplies. Plus, I REALLY don't see 700w of LED comparing to 600w of HPS. HPS works so well because it's HIGH INTENSITY. LEDs are not, it's a whole different ballpark. It's apples and oranges, LEDs and HPS are wayyy wayy different. So where you could put 6-8 plants under a HPS, I don't think that would be a wise choice for LEDs. They just won't penetrate like you want them to. Sure you'll have nice rock hard nugs on the tops of the plants. But that's it.

I think where the real LED power is at are the 5w and 10w diodes. Now those have some intense light output! The only thing with those ones is, you're going to create more heat for putting more amps into it. So it's really a tossup. Either way I hope you have success with whatever you decide to do

And I hope it also gets underway quickly! Ohhh the anticipation

I'm anxious to see too. Would never drop $1,300 when I could get a 400 watt hps for less than $150...have less heat issues (than 700 watts of led)...and more bud to show...but still it IS interesting.

Yeah was originally gonna go with small plants SOG style, but decided w/ 4 big plants instead (SCC 8gallon bucket). The system should be in next week or so, its called under current hydro by current culture..will post up pics soon. Also with this system I should have enough room to build a light mover rail, or throw something on the bottom to raise closer to the lights for better penetration. ideal to grow 3-3.5ft plants

As for the fan noise on these led lights, it's not really loud at all. Thank god

Wow sounds interesting for sure! I'm definitely eager to see what you've got planned.

Do you know the beam angle of your panels?

Yes they have multiple beam angle from 60-120 degree. Curious if the plant would overload and have a photosynthesis shutdown due to too much led(1400w) in a 4x4 footprint?

I'm definitely aware of the shortcomings of LED lights. I'm sure that they do generate some heat, but if they DO work in the summer (I don't grow outside where it's 110 degrees, it's indoors and maybe 80-85 degrees in the garage. Too hot for HPS lights (well 3x 600w's anyway). I thought about running a minimal op with 1 600w, but I'd have to run the portable A/C and that kills the whole jobber. Where I'm at the electricity is made out of gold apparently, my electric bill in the summer last year with just 1 600w light in my 2 bedroom apartment topped $500/mo.

It just becomes impossible to grow and I just pass on it. Try to stock up enough in the winter to get through the summer without having to buy any.

wow thats the dumbest shit man why spend that kinda of money in a tent that size you can buy whol etent set up 7 foot ones with everything lighting hydro set up air vents with the lights

Wow.. I have 236w covering a 4x4 area. Man if I had them 2 700w I would be growing in an 8x8 area at least. You dont need a light mover, and the plants arent gonna overdose on light. You are however gonna grow some monster plants. Trust me, I am a VERY HAPPY Prosource user.

700w of LED has to be a whole lot cooler than 600w's of HPS. I understand that there will be heat, but it won't be heat like an HPS puts off. Sometimes that heat isn't just expensive to cool, it's damn right impossible. So that 600w's of HPS and you HAVE to add to it the 1800w for a portable A/C and if you live in California (where electricity is a rook) you'll pay WAYYYYYYY more to run the HPS. It's about as ineffecient as you can get in the warm ass summers in the desert areas. I'm not sure the technology is there yet, but I'm getting closer and closer to trying it out. And you guys comparing 600w HPS lights that are cheap as shit don't realize you're comparing poor quality junk to good quality (hopefully parts). a 600w HPS light meaning hood, ballast and lamp is going to cost around $450-$550. Add on a decent inline fan at about $250.00 and you're actually paying closer to $600.00 to get your light setup.

So the extra $700 that it would cost to setup the LEDs' would be offset by the ABILITY to continue to yield all year round instead of only 7-8 months out of the year. Granted, I want to see a grow journal to ensure that 700w of LED can actually grow something significant as that's where the question will be. How long would it take to ROI the cost of the light, not whether it's cheaper than an HPS or not.

i had a friend who tried the leds and it turned out to be such a disappointment. how are your guys' led harvest going? my buddy got i think 10-20 grams of the fluffiest and airiest but per /plant on the UFO. he decided to go back to 600 watt hps and get 3-4 ounces per plant =/ however, that wasn't 700 watts i dont think.. lol

If he listened to their claims of 90w UFO being equal to 400w of HPS that is a flat ass LIE. THEY LIE TO EVERYONE. UFO's do NOT put out the equivalent to 400w of hps. That is likely why he didn't have much success. Also, they claim 12-18 inches away from the plant but 3-6 is more appropriate. LEDs do not have radiant heat which burns plants so you do not need to worry about distance. For one to just purchase a UFO light without doing any research into LEDs, that's likely why he only got fluffy airy buds, and not much from it. There are plenty of users on here using LED to good extent. axjknee is one of them, he uses UFOs and his buds look wonderful. It's likely your buddy didn't research like he should have

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I totally agree with you there swelchjohn, eventually technology will through us farmers a bone

And below0, I totally agree that's part of why I like em Granted they aren't the biggest, but how many grams can you grow with 60w? I know if I used a 42w 2700k cfl and a 26w 6500k I wouldn't be able to harvest 50+ grams so that's saying something there.

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my friend had about 100-150 watts with flowering cfls and got about 60 grams total from 3 plants

crunkyeah said:

If he listened to their claims of 90w UFO being equal to 400w of HPS that is a flat ass LIE. THEY LIE TO EVERYONE. UFO's do NOT put out the equivalent to 400w of hps. That is likely why he didn't have much success. Also, they claim 12-18 inches away from the plant but 3-6 is more appropriate. LEDs do not have radiant heat which burns plants so you do not need to worry about distance. For one to just purchase a UFO light without doing any research into LEDs, that's likely why he only got fluffy airy buds, and not much from it. There are plenty of users on here using LED to good extent. axjknee is one of them, he uses UFOs and his buds look wonderful. It's likely your buddy didn't research like he should have

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actually he had 1 of the bigger ufos, not the 90 watt. and 2 square led lights. altogether 3 led light systems. and he didnt care about researching it because he wanted to try it and plus it had like a 3 months trial money back guarantee thing. while he had them he had lights going out way too often, and after the harvest he just returned them. i wish i had pictures to show you guys, but that friend of mine is very anti-publicity. but they were probably about 6-10 inches or so from the tops.

Huh, well he just got unlucky then because LEDs are rated for 50,000 hours. Some even 100,000 hours. If he had bulbs going out in a 3 month time span, either the panels were previously used. Or just absolutely poorly made and no one should buy from them. I tell ya, someday LEDs will be the staple for grow lights. It's just gonna take some time and major breakthroughs in technology. When the commercial sellers start using 5w diodes is when we will see a step in the right direction. Just my prediction of course