Thanks dudes, it's just at the point where it feels like I'm wasting breath trying to help people. Man, the last thread I was helping someone with an issue and told them on page 1 what to do. 6 weeks later they figure it out and did exactly what I said to do on page 1 haha. It takes me forever to type things out on my phone and I only will give advice about things I am 100% certain of. But, people do have their own ways of doing things I guess, it just really annoys the piss out of me when people deny what I am telling them. I've grown in hydro for a long time and I've used home made aerocloners before commercial bought cloners were even available lol. I ask many questions here, but never get answers, I give a lot of advice but most is over looked.
Anyways, this is how it goes when getting stem rot in cloners. Chlorine is used to prevent pathogens. When you start with a clean cloner and use preventive chlorine, pathogens can not live, or rather the little amount in the new cloner or water is so small it's killed instantly by the chlorine. The problem I think people are having is this. They are using their cloner thinking everything is OK, when in fact, bacteria is beginning and multiplying. Then when people see stem rot or the like, could be a month later, or 8 months, they think they can use x product and things will be OK. It doesn't work like that. Pathogens live in microscopic places and are a bitch. Prevention is key. Don't let it happen in the first place. You can't add a prevention after pathogens have already established. The preventative you would use now would be in such high dose it would kill your plant before it would kill the pathogens. I've tried telling everyone this since last year, many times. All you need for cloning is a sterilizing additive or a beneficial additive. No fancy water, no timers, not a damn thing, just tap water, your cloner and a sterilizer. That's step one from when you buy a cloner. Maybe it was over looked, but we are growers.. We need to absorb everything to be successful. I haven't seen too many questions being asked from anyone,(maybe newbs) until they already have a problem and they are trying to fix it fast. Not many people that I've seen here have tried to learn until something bad happens, until then everyone is a pro in their minds.
What happened to people wanting to learn more about their passion? Seems a lot of people just want to rush shit and skip steps. Everyone has a strong point in growing here I'm assuming, no? Taking advice from someone that knows a lot about something would be a good start to benefit a grower that doesn't have knowledge of x subject. I've mentioned so many useful things about cloning just in this thread (which not many people follow I assume) and the 600. people should be pros at cloning and never lose a clone. So this is my last helpful post. A video I made of how to properly boil and disinfect neoprene collars in a couple minutes. Good luck to everyone, hopefully people start learning again and stop being pros about subjects they are new to. I just don't have the patience anymore to repeat everything 100 times, this isn't directly towards anyone, just was the tipping point after going in circles with people here for a year. Anyways, hope this helps u out
@DST . Later dudes. (I might pop into this thread occasionally. Safety meeting time