A couple questions regarding definitions of Haze, Landrace, and IBL

newbie1122

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OK, so I have come across all of these terms in my research and am not really quite sure what they mean. I know there are Haze strains, such as Lemon Haze, Haze #1, Sterling Haze and so on, but what, exactly is a Haze? Is it just another term for a sativa? Is it a type of sativa? What are the characteristics of Haze? What is the high like?

And what does Landrace mean? I have seen this in reference to descriptions of certain strains, but have no idea what it is or what it means?

And what about IBL? It seems to be used more common in thread about sativas so I am guessing it has something to do with sativas?

Sorry for the questions, just trying to learn so I can make educated decisions when it comes to picking strains to grow.

Thanks to all.
 

newbie1122

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Yes, I do ask a lot of questions, I figured this is the best place to try and find some answers. All this terminology can be confusing.
 

frmrboi

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One the most important strains ever bred is Haze, named after the brothers who bred it.
from seedsman's catalog:
"Sacred Seeds bred Original Haze in the late 1970s from a combination of several sativa's, including a Mexican/Columbian, some Thai and South Indians. Despite its long flowering and below average yield, this strain is acclaimed worldwide to have a taste and high superior to all other existing Cannabis strains. The flavour is typically sweet and sour and the high mildly Psychedelic and uplifting. Hybrids between Original Haze and your favourite strain will often yield offspring that are higher in THC then either parent. This strain is for would-be breeders and connoisseurs. THC Contents: 10% - 20%."
from Tom Hill's catalog:
"Haze is a four-way hybrid of some of the finest narrow-leaf tropical's that the world has ever known (Mexico, Colombia, S. India, Thailand), so the legend goes. A long flowering plant that gives wispy yields of the highest quality. This line is out of Sam Skunkmans stock by way of Positronics seeds ("Original Haze") circa mid 1990's.
It does not breed true for its intoxicating properties, however the best examples (approximate 5%) are electrifyingly cerebral. For decades, words have utterly failed to fully capture the intensity of effect that a good example of Haze can give - it is absolutely in a league of its own and must be experienced."
Most strains today with the name in it are a cross of Super Silver Haze not the above Original Haze.
Landrace is a strain as it would apear in the wild from various areas of the world.
IBL - Inbred Line. A strain that has been bred back to iself to keep the genetics pure and weed out undesirable characterestics like hermieing variations in size and potency etc.
 

smokey mcsmokester

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Excellent post frmrboi,Ive never smoked much haze.. I did get my hands on some purple haze a few years back, It smelled like grapes and was a real fluffy sativa, purple to , and the high was unlike any other....
 

The Chemist Brothers

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Haze is a sativa that's been bred by humans selectively, a landrace is a natural, often more leaning to hemp than the drug that we use and WANT to grow, so they just keep living in the natural environment(whatever it may be) and whatever traits prove benificial in their breeding grounds will be preserved, an inbred line is what you would call in human terms an incestuous offspring. its just the family inbred.

simplest definitions.
 

frmrboi

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Excellent post frmrboi,Ive never smoked much haze.. I did get my hands on some purple haze a few years back, It smelled like grapes and was a real fluffy sativa, purple to , and the high was unlike any other....
Thank you, my first strain I ever grew was Blaze, (Blueberry X Haze), (which I think the original Blue Dream cut came from)
What always strikes me is the almost instant high from it, and the taste is wonerful, more like pine than anythig (some describe it as sandalwood)
Pure Original Haze is #1 on my bucket list of strains to grow before I die.
Blaze is still available here: http://www.greenlifeseeds.com/index.php/British-Columbia-Seed-Co./Blaze
 

newbie1122

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so when a company describes a product as having a "great Hazey taste", what kind of taste are they referring to, what does "Haze" taste like?
 

hazey grapes

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there's more than one haze. there were three years where haze brothers just crossed their last year's version with another strain. i think the GENERAL haze most people refer to in seedbanks is neville's haze based on probably the last version of haze brothers' haze with some northern lights in it.

there really isn't a consensus on "haze" these days. people call anything they want haze from indica dominant shit all the way up to delta 9 labs' mekong haze which is pure cambodian and has nothing at all to do with actual haze.

you might as well just accept anything called haze to mostly mean sativa dominant.

grape haze is one common pheno. that's what i got from a 1/2 gram i was gifted last year as well as from the super cali haze freebie i tested. in that case, it gets it's flavor from tutti fruity highland thai just like DJ shorts' blueberry, but some haze phenos are more sickeningly sweet catpiss smelling. the barney's farm LSD pheno i got was a little grape & floral with some mild catpiss odor early in flowering that faded later on. i'd call THAT a haze pheno.

then there's purple haze. i don't know what that smells or tastes like, but it had purple color like many popular strains today. i vaguely recall reading it's not as good as trippier hazes.

really, there's so much noise with hazes, you have to research any particular one you're looking into. even haze knockoffs get knocked off. take amnesia haze. i can't remember what it's genetics are, but there are two breeders selling a DIFFERENT version that super silver haze x cambodian. soma's version is listed as an entirely different afghani x hawaiian sativa which might be the "authentic" original lineage.

if you try and define haze these days, you're only going to get a headache. there's probably 100s of versions by now.

the most "common" definition of haze is 87.5% sativa consisting of thai, columbian gold & another mexican sativa (i've seen descriptions naming either panama red or acapulco gold) and an indian kush strain. haze brothers just bred each strain into the line each year.

as to skunk #1, it's 75% sativa. 50% columbian gold, 25% thai & 25% afghani, but it doesn't smoke anything like haze. it's stoney.

if you cross skunk #1 with haze though, it isn't shabby. until i test something better, high quality seeds' haze x skunk is the next best thing to pure columbian gold that i've smoked so far. i'd say it's even more potent than the 2 hazes i've smoked and even more psychoactive, but nowhere near as tasty.

haze is whatever a breeder says it is these days. think of it as a meaningless buzzword (pun intended) like turbo or digital
 
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