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a few problems(PICS), Please Help!!

RockstarEnergy

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i have a 20 day old Northern Lights plant and it was fine until now. its in fox farm ocean forrest soil under 4 CFLs.

-i fed it twice so far with FF Grow Big and Big Bloom, first on 10/13 at 1/4 strength(according to FF site) and then on 10/17 at half strength with plain pH'd water in between feedings. i havent had signs of burn or deficiency until now. it has been FIM'd and supercropped

problems
1. the two bottom most single leaves are turning yellow and spotted... is that normal this early?
2. some leaves have a few yellow and brown spots on them.
3. on a few leaves there are places that look eaten or deformed. most of them have been like that since the start. my plant is very compact so is it possible that they just didnt have enough room to grow so they got deformed?
4. fan leaves are becoming lighter green in between the vains.

i cant see any bugs but i sprayed with Fox Farm don't bug me. could that have burned them? my pH is fine and everything i have read says that ff nutes are hot but 1/2 strength is fine.

what do you guys think?
thanks
 

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AirAnt

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I'd say a slight over-nute. The plant was fine until you added nutes, right? It's hard to tell without being able to see the whole plant, but I'm pretty sure that's the case since you're using a pre-ferted soil and adding more ferts before the soil nutes have been used up, which takes about 30 days depending on how much and often you water. Might want to go back to 1/4 strength or just save the nutes until flowering. Plant looks healthy though overall.
 

talon90

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I would agree with airant just a slight over feeding but thats no damage at all hardly caught quick just keep an eye on it as if it gets worst flush it a little bit
 

RockstarEnergy

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I'd say a slight over-nute. The plant was fine until you added nutes, right? It's hard to tell without being able to see the whole plant, but I'm pretty sure that's the case since you're using a pre-ferted soil and adding more ferts before the soil nutes have been used up, which takes about 30 days depending on how much and often you water. Might want to go back to 1/4 strength or just save the nutes until flowering. Plant looks healthy though overall.
I would agree with airant just a slight over feeding but thats no damage at all hardly caught quick just keep an eye on it as if it gets worst flush it a little bit
thanks for replying guys! thats what i thought but i wanted a second opinion since this is my first grow. those pics are from last night. it is a little worse today but seems to have stopped now or atleast slowed down...think i'll stick to plain pH'd water for a while haha.

here are some pics of the whole plant today. she is tied down right now.
 

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AirAnt

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One more thing I notice is that all the moisture in your pot is centered around the plant. When you water you need to water the whole pot. A plant that big already has roots throughout the entire pot, and you need to get water to them all, not just the ones in the center.
 

smallclosetgrowr

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if your soil was allready pre fertilzed thats 100% to much nutes , id stick to 1/4 nutes for another 2 weeks , then go 1/2 1/3
 

RockstarEnergy

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One more thing I notice is that all the moisture in your pot is centered around the plant. When you water you need to water the whole pot. A plant that big already has roots throughout the entire pot, and you need to get water to them all, not just the ones in the center.
ooh thanks for the tip...i'll be sure to start doing that.

quick question....im supercropping but the leaf set that stick up on top kinda blocks light from the new tops coming up. everyone says trimming fan leaves is a bad idea, so would it hurt my plant if i cut just that set so that the new tops can get more light? would it even make much difference without it?

if your soil was allready pre fertilzed thats 100% to much nutes , id stick to 1/4 nutes for another 2 weeks , then go 1/2 1/3
so you think i can still continue feeding if i cut back to 1/4 strength? or should i still wait a bit?
 

AirAnt

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It would be better if you could bend and tuck the fan leaf under the stem. There was a thread floating around yesterday about trimming and eventually it was described that trimming leaves off a plant is like thinking you could run faster if you weighed less and chopping off your legs. Credit goes to Roseman for that one, I think. I would stop using nutes until your plants are completely heathy again. You probably don't need to use any until what's in your soil is gone, anyways. Good luck.
 

RockstarEnergy

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It would be better if you could bend and tuck the fan leaf under the stem. There was a thread floating around yesterday about trimming and eventually it was described that trimming leaves off a plant is like thinking you could run faster if you weighed less and chopping off your legs. Credit goes to Roseman for that one, I think. I would stop using nutes until your plants are completely heathy again. You probably don't need to use any until what's in your soil is gone, anyways. Good luck.
hahaha thats a funny analogy. but yea thats only one i cant bend out of the way. its not that big of a deal so i'll just leave it and let the plant recover.

thanks for the help man +REP!
 
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