eugeneoregon
Active Member
I have no intention of testing the legal waters, however the legal landscape around marijuanna is full hazards.
One hazard always seems to revolve around posession of too much marijuanna or its extracts. In Oregon the posession of more than five grams of extract is a crime even though Oregon has very liberal recreational marijuanna laws. Five grams is a lot, but what if you find yourself in posession of more than that? A gift or discovery or miscalculation can each be viewed as a crime if the magic number of five grams is exceeded Oregon.
I have no idea if this would stand up in court, but I suspect that it would indeed. Simply disolve the amount of extract you wish to store in methanol.
My thinking is this; ethanol is taxed and regulated and considered safe for human consumption (arguable). So in order to sell ethanol for purposes other than drinking, a mild toxin is put into it. They call this "denatured alcohol" which is a usage of the words that means they poisoned drinking alcohol to make it undrinkable. This avoids the heavy taxes and regulations of regular ethanol because it is no longer fit for human consumption until the toxin is removed (VERY EASY TO DO).
Methanol, on the other hand, is not suitable for human consumption in any amount. So by placing the extract into solution of methanol then in the same context that ethanol is denatured, the extract would be considered denatured too. Every Oregon law always includes the word "useable" when describing how they weigh extract or marijuanna. When dissolved in methanol extract does not fit the definition of "useable" and putting marijuanna products into methanol is the prescribed method that labs use to officially destroy any product remaining after testing.
Removing methanol prior to use is an identical procedure to removing ethanol which is in common use to dewax marijuanna extracts, and frankly it does not take rocket science to do so safely. It could be legally argued that ethanol laced with extract is useable, and in fact it is used this way with the most common phrase I know of being named "Green Dragon".
Methanol laced wih extract is not only unuseable as-is and is toxic, but in the event of court procedings the legal authorities would first have to distill off the methanol and jump through multiple hoops just to confirm if there is more than the legal limit involved - in other words there is no way to know how much is being stored without destroying a substantial part of evidence.
I am looking for opinions for the sake of discussion only. Do you think that denaturing the product with methanol would render it off limits in the case of an attempted drug bust? My personal shield is that I stay under the limits but I wanted to post the idea to hear the thoughts of others.
One hazard always seems to revolve around posession of too much marijuanna or its extracts. In Oregon the posession of more than five grams of extract is a crime even though Oregon has very liberal recreational marijuanna laws. Five grams is a lot, but what if you find yourself in posession of more than that? A gift or discovery or miscalculation can each be viewed as a crime if the magic number of five grams is exceeded Oregon.
I have no idea if this would stand up in court, but I suspect that it would indeed. Simply disolve the amount of extract you wish to store in methanol.
My thinking is this; ethanol is taxed and regulated and considered safe for human consumption (arguable). So in order to sell ethanol for purposes other than drinking, a mild toxin is put into it. They call this "denatured alcohol" which is a usage of the words that means they poisoned drinking alcohol to make it undrinkable. This avoids the heavy taxes and regulations of regular ethanol because it is no longer fit for human consumption until the toxin is removed (VERY EASY TO DO).
Methanol, on the other hand, is not suitable for human consumption in any amount. So by placing the extract into solution of methanol then in the same context that ethanol is denatured, the extract would be considered denatured too. Every Oregon law always includes the word "useable" when describing how they weigh extract or marijuanna. When dissolved in methanol extract does not fit the definition of "useable" and putting marijuanna products into methanol is the prescribed method that labs use to officially destroy any product remaining after testing.
Removing methanol prior to use is an identical procedure to removing ethanol which is in common use to dewax marijuanna extracts, and frankly it does not take rocket science to do so safely. It could be legally argued that ethanol laced with extract is useable, and in fact it is used this way with the most common phrase I know of being named "Green Dragon".
Methanol laced wih extract is not only unuseable as-is and is toxic, but in the event of court procedings the legal authorities would first have to distill off the methanol and jump through multiple hoops just to confirm if there is more than the legal limit involved - in other words there is no way to know how much is being stored without destroying a substantial part of evidence.
I am looking for opinions for the sake of discussion only. Do you think that denaturing the product with methanol would render it off limits in the case of an attempted drug bust? My personal shield is that I stay under the limits but I wanted to post the idea to hear the thoughts of others.