A little help please

Blitz35

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you just answered your own question u are feeding 3/4 of the recommended nute does and they are in flower up the does week 3-5 should be 1200-1800 ppm
I agree..they seem hungry! Someone said not to feed much 'this late in flower'? looks like you're barely at mid-flower! Seems to be deficient in multiple elements. You should also be focusing on keeping a higher potassium to nitrogen ratio at this stage to help flowering! You have more nitrogen going in than potassium.
 

3rd Monkey

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I agree..they seem hungry! Someone said not to feed much 'this late in flower'? looks like you're barely at mid-flower! Seems to be deficient in multiple elements. You should also be focusing on keeping a higher potassium to nitrogen ratio at this stage to help flowering! You have more nitrogen going in than potassium.
I said to not feed much during flower, specifically referencing N.
 

Blitz35

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Don't sweat the feeding thing. Better safe than sorry. They pick right back up after you feed them, just keep it light this late in flower.
Sorry man, i misread the N part. I usually think the other way..in mid flower like this..it's better to go a bit over, than way under, in terms of feed. Critical time for flower growth, and from my experience, underfeeding them creates more stress than going slightly over at this stage (next 2 weeks). But yes, the nitrogen should be given carefully, and make sure not to go overboard with that!
 

Ulf

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1200-1800 seems pretty high to me. I have no experience with nutrients and feeding, but my chart says it should be 500-700 ppm. And I've been hesitant to go full strength. That's only based on reading a few times to not go more than 1/2 strength with GO. I upped it to 3/4 because of the yellowing. I was mistaken listening to someone about only using the bloom blend the whole grow I guess also, but live and learn.

Either way, I got my ph dialed in now, and I gave it a little bit of the grow blend last nite for the nitrogen. I still believe ph is what hurt it, and I agree that I wasn't giving it enough nitrogen. I think it will bounce back as long as I don't over do any corrective action.

I can't thank y'all enough for the help and advice.
 

Ulf

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So... It got worse, but I think it's getting better. It's been a lil over a week, and the yellowing has (at least) stabilized.
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Ulf

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Yea, you should be ok to make the trip to chop. They look like they are building good. Look nice and dense.
I had noticed that toward the end of veg, it's leaves were "sweating" a lot and leaving water on the leaves under them. The rh has been quite low the whole grow... like 20% - 30%. After reading your thread about LED and CaMg (mainly the response about VPD), I believe that has been a major contributor to my problems with this grow. Ph played a part, but @ 20% - 30% rh with temps around 75°...

It's going to be a small harvest compared to my last grow (summertime w/ 65%ish rh) that I got 2.25 oz. I wish I'd gotten a humidifier. Lesson learned. I think I'll be lucky to get an oz this time.

5th week of flower and these buds are pretty pathetic in size and she looks like shit lol
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Beachwalker

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Plant like that I feed at 1000 PPM & up in Fox Farm soil, give it some food! Keep pH 6.5 steady in ffof for best results
 

3rd Monkey

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I had noticed that toward the end of veg, it's leaves were "sweating" a lot and leaving water on the leaves under them. The rh has been quite low the whole grow... like 20% - 30%. After reading your thread about LED and CaMg (mainly the response about VPD), I believe that has been a major contributor to my problems with this grow. Ph played a part, but @ 20% - 30% rh with temps around 75°...

It's going to be a small harvest compared to my last grow (summertime w/ 65%ish rh) that I got 2.25 oz. I wish I'd gotten a humidifier. Lesson learned. I think I'll be lucky to get an oz this time.

5th week of flower and these buds are pretty pathetic in size and she looks like shit lol
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Glad you saw the thread, didn't think about that at the time since it was new information to me too.

Now that you know, you can take the corrective measures to curb it. Should still be able to put on some weight while limping to harvest.

Then straighten out you gear after this harvest.
 
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Beachwalker

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1200-1800 seems pretty high to me. I have no experience with nutrients and feeding, but my chart says it should be 500-700 ppm. And I've been hesitant to go full strength. That's only based on reading a few times to not go more than 1/2 strength with GO. I upped it to 3/4 because of the yellowing. I was mistaken listening to someone about only using the bloom blend the whole grow I guess also, but live and learn.

Either way, I got my ph dialed in now, and I gave it a little bit of the grow blend last nite for the nitrogen. I still believe ph is what hurt it, and I agree that I wasn't giving it enough nitrogen. I think it will bounce back as long as I don't over do any corrective action.

I can't thank y'all enough for the help and advice.
You said this in your very first post too, that you were only feeding it Bloom! My first post to you was that you dropped your nitrogen too soon (I didn't know you never had nitrogen) but obviously that's the issue, that's why it's lime green!

You got to start feeding your plants, get megacrop or Peter's, any simple one part that you don't have to think too much about and you'll be much happier in the long run!
 

3rd Monkey

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You said this in your very first post too, that you were only feeding it Bloom! My first post to you was that you dropped your nitrogen too soon I didn't know you never had nitrogen but obviously that's the issue and you just said it again, that's why it's lime green! you got to start feeding your plants, get megacrop or Peter's, any a simple one part that you don't have to think too much about and you'll be much happier in the long run!
Check the tips and the green underneath. I would agree with you to push feed if the environment was right, but it's not. I also agree that N was dropped too early.

The LEDs need the right environment, that's why the discoloration. More nutes will hurt it, just battled it myself. Never ran just an LED before, always alongside an HPS. I just learned the hard way, this is another case I do believe.

I could be wrong but there seems to be a trend.
 

Ulf

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You said this in your very first post too, that you were only feeding it Bloom! My first post to you was that you dropped your nitrogen too soon (I didn't know you never had nitrogen) but obviously that's the issue, that's why it's lime green!

You got to start feeding your plants, get megacrop or Peter's, any simple one part that you don't have to think too much about and you'll be much happier in the long run!
Thanks for the advice. Not real sure what Peter's is, but mega crop seems like a pretty good choice. I got two seeds in cups right now. I'm gonna try it with those two.

I stuck my hps in there with the LEDs. Idk if it will help, but I figure it can't hurt.
 

3rd Monkey

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Thanks for the advice. Not real sure what Peter's is, but mega crop seems like a pretty good choice. I got two seeds in cups right now. I'm gonna try it with those two.

I stuck my hps in there with the LEDs. Idk if it will help, but I figure it can't hurt.
I've always ran my HPS and LED side by side, never had an issue, 6yrs together. 1st time LED alone and now I see the learning curve.

The HPS should help. It'll heat up the leaf surface to help with photosynthesis.
 

Ulf

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I've always ran my HPS and LED side by side, never had an issue, 6yrs together. 1st time LED alone and now I see the learning curve.

The HPS should help. It'll heat up the leaf surface to help with photosynthesis.
Mines a 150w but with the other two, I got 410ish and the IR. I'm still too low on rh tho. I need a humidifier or spring to be more humid than this dry winter has been.
 
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