a mediocre shroom garden thread
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calliandra
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here too!!! 
ok somewhere in there anyway...
(found these in the garden!)
ok somewhere in there anyway...(found these in the garden!)
iHearAll
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Woohoo garden morrels!! Pick those things. They look delicious. Good wood loving strain if I recall. Ill be attempting these soon. Fungi is so freaking cool!
farmasensist
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Thanks, I didn't even think to look on e-bay. I looked some more yesterday and found sporeworks had a lot to choose from $18 each or 4 for $60 wasn't too bad.
Those things are looking really good. Enjoy them.
iHearAll
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i have used sporeworks quite a few times. i actually just put and order in last week for black garden morels (like @calliandra 's photo above) and thailand's panaeolus cyanescens goliath like i used to forage in the pacific islands. if you havent ordered yet from sporeworks they are advertisers at shroomery so get yourself a membership and let them know you are a member wen ordering, i would order over the phone for reduced costs. Theyre in eastern daylight time from TN. you'll get a free cubensis syringe or print if you are a shroomery member.
calliandra
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they are ^^
Wood loving you say?
The places I tried to read up on them weren't sure whether they're mycorrhizal, and that they can't be cultivated at allllll
So it'S going to be exciting to see how yours do!
But wood loving would match up with the others I just saw this afternoon, growing in pine bark mulch between what will one day perhaps become shrubs (in the "garden" of my new place).
These newer ones have much darker caps though. Also they don't hardly smell, and I don't get the feeling I want to eat them, like I did with the first morel I took home for identification
I'll go collect them anyways I think, at least some that may have kept safe from lapdog shit and all that city stuff
I gave the other to my neighbor in thanks for shooing vandals and thieves out of my garden lately
But I kept the first, it's going into a topinambur soup next weekend, yum!
iHearAll
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Here's what I was given to go by with warning that I may very well not be successful.they are ^^
Wood loving you say?
The places I tried to read up on them weren't sure whether they're mycorrhizal, and that they can't be cultivated at allllll
So it'S going to be exciting to see how yours do!
But wood loving would match up with the others I just saw this afternoon, growing in pine bark mulch between what will one day perhaps become shrubs (in the "garden" of my new place).
These newer ones have much darker caps though. Also they don't hardly smell, and I don't get the feeling I want to eat them, like I did with the first morel I took home for identification
I'll go collect them anyways I think, at least some that may have kept safe from lapdog shit and all that city stuff
I gave the other to my neighbor in thanks for shooing vandals and thieves out of my garden lately
Quote from sporeworks
Cultivation Difficulty: Difficult
Type: Edible
Substrate: Grass seed, hardwood sawdust
Colonization/Fruiting Temperatures: 70-75F/40-60F
Sclerotia Formation Temperature: 60-65F
Landscape morels are considered good candidates for cultivation since they don't appear to be dependent on seed plants for fruiting. Morchella importuna is fairly common in the northwest of North America with unconfirmed reports in the Midwest and East. It is usually found in gardens, planters and landscaping sites in early spring.
The morel strain provided here was isolated from a wild Oregon, USA specimen and successfully fruited in a disturbed garden habitat in March 2004. This sample was previously provided as "Morchella elata group" but was recently confirmed to be Morchella importuna through genetic analysis.
Currently, there is no reliable method of fruiting morels under laboratory conditions. We offer this species for experimental purposes and make no guarantees beyond the viability of the culture and its ability to form sclerotia. Outdoor cultivation is recommended for the highest chance of success.
See also Morchella rufobrunnea - Yellow Landscape Morel.
The formation of sclerotia is widely accepted as the preliminary stage to the formation of morel mushrooms. A morel sclerotium is a hard mass of compressed mycelium that forms underground during the late spring and summer. It is thought to be a dormant structure in the morel lifecycle that allows it to over-winter. The sclerotium can then quickly spring to life with the warm spring rains.
Current successful cultivation method:
Using a presealable MycoBag(TM) with self-healing injection port, place a cup or so of soaked and well drained grass seed on the bottom near the injection site and a thick layer of moist hardwood sawdust on top. Seal with an impulse sealer and sterilized at 15psi for 2-3 hours. After cooling, inject the culture syringe into the grass seed and let it colonize at 60-65F for at least 3 weeks. Do not mix the grass seed with the sawdust. The morel mycelium will feed on the grass seed and use that energy to grow sclerotia in the nutrient poor sawdust. There should be plenty of the small orange sclerotia visible before planting outside. In November-January, dig a small depression in a shady garden area and sprinkle it heavily with garden lime. Dump out the sawdust layer into the depression and cover it with garden soil mixed with a few handfuls of lime and ignore it. With luck, morels will appear in the spring. Alternative methods recommend mixing wood ash with the sclerotia as black morels are often associated with burn sites. This was not attempted with this strain.
The above method can be attempted with jars but the grass seed should be placed on top of the sawdust instead of the bottom.
We would be interested in any reports of success with this culture.
blu3bird
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Here's a a trustworthy vendor, decent selection of edible cultures and fairly priced https://thesporedepot.com/shop/edible-mushroom-cultures/shiitake-mushroom-lentinula-edodes/
iHearAll
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Their supplies are really cheap. $.90 for a syringe? Wow
calliandra
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Intriguing!
I checked on the morels in the new yard, and decided I'm not eating those, though I do think (+ confirmed by a cook who has seen lots of morels heeh) they're legit.
They just smell of nothing at all, poor things
I crumbled up that one and dumped it under my raspberries.
IS there anything I could try and find out by examining them that could be helpful for your attempt?
I do want to unearth another that's growing right by the house I'm in (it'S in a place less prone to dogshit - what a turn-off, they do look quite like haha), check out if I can see the mycelium and transfer it to the foot of one of my peonies...
Cheers!
iHearAll
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What kind of microscopic life is found on and next to the morel mycelium? I have read they are mycorrhizae, is there a plant nearby? What age is the plant? Have any plants recently deceased? Maybe the morel sucks the life from it to fruit.Intriguing!
I checked on the morels in the new yard, and decided I'm not eating those, though I do think (+ confirmed by a cook who has seen lots of morels heeh) they're legit.
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They just smell of nothing at all, poor things
I crumbled up that one and dumped it under my raspberries.
IS there anything I could try and find out by examining them that could be helpful for your attempt?
I do want to unearth another that's growing right by the house I'm in (it'S in a place less prone to dogshit - what a turn-off, they do look quite like haha), check out if I can see the mycelium and transfer it to the foot of one of my peonies...
Cheers!
I have also seen morels grown in greenhouses in 20cm deep 60×60cm with no plants nearby which furthers me to believe they are decay hungry. Possibly root decay?
Could morel mycelium be beneficial to periodically apply to indoor no till containers?
calliandra
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I found a third morel site - where I was mixing my compost last fall, there had been a pine tree there before, roots still in the ground, it was cut down last autumn after having died all summer from a fungal disease that carries with the wind, I forget what it's called.
So decay there for sure
I started inspecting the morels by my house, took pix while unearthing them too for you, and looked at the soil and a rubbery-feeling sort of thing that extends from the morels stem (could that be the mycelium?? I don't really know anything about mushrooms lol) ... and now I'm sooo tired I can't, just can't, do one.more.thing. OK except maybe roll one haha
Today was super busy
So I'll update in more detail tomorrow
HeatlessBBQ
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yo @iHearAll ... where is some more shroom harvest porn ?!?!?!
iHearAll
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dried on a piece of parchment paper laid on a heat mat over night. yielded 5g, cracker dry. took two prints as well (as seen by the missing caps in pic one.
ahhhh, there are the caps, better
new cake forming knots.
more spawn jars in place. one is entering the consolidation period this weekend. next weekend will birth this one.
shiitakes still forming bark, one still sitting in it's own piss.
and some poppy tea from mite damaged leaves.
iHearAll
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"stolen from shroomery"I found a third morel site - where I was mixing my compost last fall, there had been a pine tree there before, roots still in the ground, it was cut down last autumn after having died all summer from a fungal disease that carries with the wind, I forget what it's called.
So decay there for sure
I started inspecting the morels by my house, took pix while unearthing them too for you, and looked at the soil and a rubbery-feeling sort of thing that extends from the morels stem (could that be the mycelium?? I don't really know anything about mushrooms lol) ... and now I'm sooo tired I can't, just can't, do one.more.thing. OK except maybe roll one haha
Today was super busy
So I'll update in more detail tomorrow
How to turn cells into morels
At Diversified Natural Products Inc. in Scottville, growing morels requires many steps, perfect conditions and advanced scientific techniques.
The process starts with a substrate, or growing medium, made of leaf and bark composts, plus a second medium of steamed wheat mixed with sugar and yeast. The wheat is the food for the morel's first stage of growth.
Each day, 600 one-gallon starter bags of substrate are prepared by hand, with a layer of wheat on the bottom and compost on top. The bags are wheeled into a walk-in steel chamber, where they're sterilized to kill organisms that might hinder the growth process.
After cooling, the compost is sprinkled with wheat grains covered in morel inoculate -- the microscopic cells that start the growing process.
The inoculate is continuously produced in DNP's high-tech lab, which features HEPA filters, biohazard hoods to kill contaminants, and a cryo-freezer where the company's proprietary stock cultures are held at minus-80 degrees Celsius.
After being inoculated, the bags of compost and wheat are set in a climate-controlled room.
There, over the next five to six weeks, the inoculate will grow white, weblike strands that reach down through the dark compost and into the nutrient-rich wheat at the bottom of the bag. At the end of this stage, the web-filled compost will have solidified into a black, rock-like mass called a sclerotia.
The sclerotia is broken into chunks and planted in trays of soil. Over the next six weeks, the trays are moved through a series of rooms with varying levels of heat, light and humidity.
Ten to 12 weeks after being started, a new crop of brown, elongated, crinkly-capped morels is ready for harvest.
DNP's other strains of mushrooms are less labor intensive, because they grow in the bags in which they're first planted, but like the morels, all require individual handling and carefully controlled growing conditions.
HeatlessBBQ
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wow, thank You so much @iHearAll .
very impressed with Your yield and outcomes.
Are You going to journey with that batch or are You saving up? 1UP
also, are You going to throw away that "one sitting in its own piss"?
I have never heard of any BRF cake coming out healthy or good in that type of situation.
I'd toss that thing right away. <-------------
very impressed with Your yield and outcomes.
Are You going to journey with that batch or are You saving up? 1UP
also, are You going to throw away that "one sitting in its own piss"?
I have never heard of any BRF cake coming out healthy or good in that type of situation.
I'd toss that thing right away. <-------------
iHearAll
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Im going to see what it does since I have never seen it happen. Reports say to just rinse it off after birthing. On first thought I wouldn't imagine it would need to soak yet again, but maybe soaking in fresh water would actually be beneficial. Anyway, I went ahead and birthed it and will see what it does. It smelled pretty fresh and not fermented or putrid.
I would like to take a trip tomorrow afternoon and may microdose during the week ahead. I microdosed two days ago and was very pleased. That was roughly a quarter gram. Lasting only an hour.
calliandra
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Please excuse my ignorance, but do youz cook that, is it like a soup then?