a mediocre shroom garden thread

iHearAll

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layed a pint of wbs spawn in a small aluminum tray of oven pasteurized grass yesterday. Impossible to mix..... Don't feel so good about the grass bulk sub for this reason.
 
DankTankerous

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Hey @iHearAll it looks like one of my spawn bags will finish maybe a week after the other bag. Is it ok to have the colonized bag sit for a week so that I can wait for the other to finish. The reason being is I have a 5lb bag of pasteurized cow dung mixture and I don't want to waste it. Can I use what I need and stick it back in the freezer or will it need to be re-pasturize it? I guess I could just order more, but I really want to do the Mini-Monotub. If one of the bags isn't fully colonized can I mix it in anyway? Or will it get contaminated? I read somewhere I could do that
 
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DankTankerous said:
Hey @iHearAll it looks like one of my spawn bags will finish maybe a week after the other bag. Is it ok to have the colonized bag sit for a week so that I can wait for the other to finish. The reason being is I have a 5lb bag of pasteurized cow dung mixture and I don't want to waste it. Can I use what I need and stick it back in the freezer or will it need to be re-pasturize it? I guess I could just order more, but I really want to do the Mini-Monotub. If one of the bags isn't fully colonized can I mix it in anyway? Or will it get contaminated? I read somewhere I could do that
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You'd be better off letting the first one just sit around for the second to finish. You'll want to keep it cooler so it doesn't start to pee. If you get pins forming, just pick them off before you mix it in your sub.
 
DankTankerous

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iHearAll said:
You'd be better off letting the first one just sit around for the second to finish. You'll want to keep it cooler so it doesn't start to pee. If you get pins forming, just pick them off before you mix it in your sub.
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About how cool? I think the coolest temp I could keep it at is below 75. I'll let it go a few more days after colonization and then make a decision. That's my plan A, my plan B is to use half of the substrate, freeze again and then repasteurize the cow dung and have another bulk tray. It looks like the Mycelium has been growing below the rye berries and is now about to take over.
 
iHearAll

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DankTankerous said:
About how cool? I think the coolest temp I could keep it at is below 75. I'll let it go a few more days after colonization and then make a decision. That's my plan A, my plan B is to use half of the substrate, freeze again and then repasteurize the cow dung and have another bulk tray. It looks like the Mycelium has been growing below the rye berries and is now about to take over.
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Sounds logical. It would be a good way to learn how to pasteurize. Im not very experienced with pasteurizing myself. Very mediocre indeed. 75 should be fine. I just recently let some bulk sub sit for two extra weeks and I started to pee. @ANC recommends putting dry vermiculite on the bottom of jars for this. I still haven't tried it yet.. Obviously about time I do. Rinsing the cake off is ok too but in your case I wouldn't introduce any other than iso'd nitril gloves and ambient still air. You can fruit straight from the bag supposedly.
 
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DankTankerous

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iHearAll said:
Sounds logical. It would be a good way to learn how to pasteurize. Im not very experienced with pasteurizing myself. Very mediocre indeed. 75 should be fine. I just recently let some bulk sub sit for two extra weeks and I started to pee. @ANC recommends putting dry vermiculite on the bottom of jars for this. I still haven't tried it yet.. Obviously about time I do. Rinsing the cake off is ok too but in your case I wouldn't introduce any other than iso'd nitril gloves and ambient still air. You can fruit straight from the bag supposedly.
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Lol neither am I, but nonetheless I'll figure something out and if it all doesn't work I am going to try again and prepare better. Thanks again for all your help and getting back to me quickly. I got off my high dosage depression medicine after 3 years. I quit cold turkey and fuck it was hell. I definitely recommend tapering it off. Anyways my anxiety was kicked into high gear and after all the therapy I have been through I couldn't get my feelings to chill. But I tried hard to keep my mental state well, fuck Depression I hate that shit. Anyways after 2 months of SSRI's withdrawals I'm almost back to normal. Just still some physical side effects.

What I'm trying to say is I didn't mean to be annoying with all the worriesome questions.

Also I'm starting some bag seeds so I'll have a Stealth grow going on.

Best Wishes,
DankTankerous
 
iHearAll

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Lol neither am I, but nonetheless I'll figure something out and if it all doesn't work I am going to try again and prepare better. Thanks again for all your help and getting back to me quickly. I got off my high dosage depression medicine after 3 years. I quit cold turkey and fuck it was hell. I definitely recommend tapering it off. Anyways my anxiety was kicked into high gear and after all the therapy I have been through I couldn't get my feelings to chill. But I tried hard to keep my mental state well, fuck Depression I hate that shit. Anyways after 2 months of SSRI's withdrawals I'm almost back to normal. Just still some physical side effects.

What I'm trying to say is I didn't mean to be annoying with all the worriesome questions.

Also I'm starting some bag seeds so I'll have a Stealth grow going on.

Best Wishes,
DankTankerous
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Hey no worries, everyone's a bit crazy. Your questions are the same thing we all ask. Easier when you can get a human response to a specific instance though. Send a link to your journal! Ill sit in
 
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iHearAll

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Damn dude I'm thinking about making a SGFC, I'm willing to bet the first bag will be done by tomorrow. If I have a SGFC do I still need to poke holes above the 3in line?
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Yessirrrrr. Just get a piece of paper and measure 2" grids and poke a hole at each intersection. Then pattern your box on every side. Try and get holes on the edges so they drain well. Then, unfortunately, you gotta cover each hole above the perlite (optional obviously). You could easily make your own more efficient use of tools and make stripes to cover with tape easier. A small sgfc is easy to build in an afternoon. A regular sized one gets boring halfway through drilling holes and covering with tape. Ugh
 
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iHearAll said:
Yessirrrrr. Just get a piece of paper and measure 2" grids and poke a hole at each intersection. Then pattern your box on every side. Try and get holes on the edges so they drain well. Then, unfortunately, you gotta cover each hole above the perlite (optional obviously). You could easily make your own more efficient use of tools and make stripes to cover with tape easier. A small sgfc is easy to build in an afternoon. A regular sized one gets boring halfway through drilling holes and covering with tape. Ugh
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So that leads me to my next question, I have a 7"x7"x4" size Tupperware tray and I'll be using a similar size as well for the second tray. Do I need a huge ass 66qt tub as my SGFC? Here are a couple pics of today, the spawn with the majority covered will be done in a day, 2 at the most. It's really gaining momentum. I also saw some reddish spots? I don't think it's contamination but it's probably the main reason why I won't let it wait another 2 weeks. Second reason is I'm fucking excited!

The first two pictures are of the almost fully colonized bag, the third is the lesser colonized, 4th is side by side and the last two pictures of the suspicious auburn orange thing

-DT
 

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iHearAll

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DankTankerous said:
So that leads me to my next question, I have a 7"x7"x4" size Tupperware tray and I'll be using a similar size as well for the second tray. Do I need a huge ass 66qt tub as my SGFC? Here are a couple pics of today, the spawn with the majority covered will be done in a day, 2 at the most. It's really gaining momentum. I also saw some reddish spots? I don't think it's contamination but it's probably the main reason why I won't let it wait another 2 weeks. Second reason is I'm fucking excited!

The first two pictures are of the almost fully colonized bag, the third is the lesser colonized, 4th is side by side and the last two pictures of the suspicious auburn orange thing

-DT
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Looks ok. You can get any clear tub that can hold perlite, your tray, and a good 8"-12" for mushrooms. It may be worth while to build a full size so it's just there. One and done. You may find you want more space down the road.
 
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iHearAll said:
Looks ok. You can get any clear tub that can hold perlite, your tray, and a good 8"-12" for mushrooms. It may be worth while to build a full size so it's just there. One and done. You may find you want more space down the road.
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Yeah it doesn't look like wet bubble. Probably myc piss. Anyways we'll all know in 7 days, at least I got that. Yeah I think I'll bite the bullet and make the large 66qt tube. Get all my stuff done tomorrow.

In other news, both seeds have germinated and are in peat pellets. I'm just hoping they can make it with all the pesky fungus gnats I have. I have both plants soil drench of BT, and hopefully that'll be the end of it. It's been pretty bad in my apt
 
iHearAll

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Yeah it doesn't look like wet bubble. Probably myc piss. Anyways we'll all know in 7 days, at least I got that. Yeah I think I'll bite the bullet and make the large 66qt tube. Get all my stuff done tomorrow.

In other news, both seeds have germinated and are in peat pellets. I'm just hoping they can make it with all the pesky fungus gnats I have. I have both plants soil drench of BT, and hopefully that'll be the end of it. It's been pretty bad in my apt
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I feel ya. I want to get some nematodes as well for my earthworms.

I've got this damn bin of peat covered in mold out back
 
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I feel ya. I want to get some nematodes as well for my earthworms.

I've got this damn bin of peat covered in mold out back
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I make AACT EWC teas and that is supposed to cultivate nematodes, but I don't have a microscope so I can't tell if my brew has any. You can buy Nematodes but I heard it's a buy beware item if you purchase online. I would like to purchase some, I've never seen Garden stores or Nurseries carry them
 
iHearAll

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I make AACT EWC teas and that is supposed to cultivate nematodes, but I don't have a microscope so I can't tell if my brew has any. You can buy Nematodes but I heard it's a buy beware item if you purchase online. I would like to purchase some, I've never seen Garden stores or Nurseries carry them
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I've bought from this ebay company twice and been happy. They sold visibly live nematode and live ladybugs. They're delivered with an ice pack.

A microscope seems like a must have, even a cheap USB.

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