perry420
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You hit the nail on the motha fuckin head my man
A perfect cure every time
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moonstar45
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question, at what RH levels would you guys stop burping your weed?
i'm kinda of thinking since i already put them in jars, i'll keep on burping (30 minutes to an hour a day) until i reach a stabilized 62% RH. (it's increasing at a slow pace 60+++ so i can't really tell at what its true RH is since it's still sweating in the jars)
but when it reaches 62% stabilized, i can just leave my jars closed and won't have to burp right? and it would be for long term storage.
(62% came from the boveda site and the growweedeasy site and since i haven't found details on the actual science for the 62% number)
i'm kinda of thinking since i already put them in jars, i'll keep on burping (30 minutes to an hour a day) until i reach a stabilized 62% RH. (it's increasing at a slow pace 60+++ so i can't really tell at what its true RH is since it's still sweating in the jars)
but when it reaches 62% stabilized, i can just leave my jars closed and won't have to burp right? and it would be for long term storage.
(62% came from the boveda site and the growweedeasy site and since i haven't found details on the actual science for the 62% number)
Once your in the "cure zone" (60-65% RH for our purposes) you wanna burp the jars about once a week. If you see the RH climbing beyond 65 into the 70's than you should burp the container sooner. But once you get the buds into the above mentioned "cure zone" you wanna keep the jars closed as long as possible; burping them once a week at that point until you no longer get the "hay/grass clipping" scent.
You dont necessarily need to get so crazy about how long you open it, but you do wanna make sure you've changed out the air in the container.... while in a room that contains air that has a lower RH than whats in the jar already. When I move my buds to mason jars; I like to dump them out and let it all air out for a few minutes in one of those disposable baking trays.... shuffle the buds around a bit so the buds that were sitting at the bottom of the container arent back in the same place... I also try to keep my buds as uniform in size as possible when I do my final trim/chop up.... I love nothing more than hanging onto and curing the biggest and best looking buds the I end up with; but I'm learning the more uniform in size I chop my buds into, the better the cure goes and the more uniform the end result is.
Long term storage of buds isnt a part of growing I've had to get into yet so I cant really comment on that part but based on the methods posted here in this thread, 55% is whats considered safe for long term I believe...
Also, a few things I've stated and would like to make mention of... Buy the better hygro's as first mentioned by the og poster.... In a jam or short on funds do what you have to but sometimes I wonder if the $12 wonders I bought are correct.... If you are going to try it and arent a DIY'er, maybe do the cheapo version first to see how things go before buying an assload of $25 hygros.... but I will say after playing around with the cheaper ones and trying the methods and seeing them work........ I'll be buying the mo' betta hygros and making some new containers.
qwizoking
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Hmm forgot about this.
So basically
A percent of moisture is required to keep stomatas open and maintain gas exchange. Think of it like a cutting, its still alive. 40% is about the lower limit. During this process respiration and hydrolysis break down the plant...
Causing
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner taste/high
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a lower ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn
This is an aerobic process obviously, you dont want to just jar at the right rh.
Mold of any type wont typically grow under 60%. You want as much moisture as possible without it molding and good airflow, along with low temps- low 70's. Higher temps volatize terps and speed the bacterial break down of the plant, thats what makes brick weed yellow then turn brown and can give a foul odor, you want the plant to break it down.
The hay smell is of a similar process. But from a lack of oxygen, doesnt matter when you chop or what strain. It should never smell like that. Ever. My plants smell like dank all the way through. the "hay" smell is from nitrogen sugars cellulose, starch, etc breaking down anaerobically with the high moisture content. It begins to ferment. This releases ammonia and acids giving the foul odor.
Up rh (instead of jarring and burping) lower temps, and increase airflow is the general prescription.
So basically
A percent of moisture is required to keep stomatas open and maintain gas exchange. Think of it like a cutting, its still alive. 40% is about the lower limit. During this process respiration and hydrolysis break down the plant...
Causing
Reduction in Chlorophyll content, doesn't taste like smoking veggies
Reduction in plant starch content,and sugars, creating a smooth smoke that will just expand nicely in your lungs, won't even feel it go down
Reduction in nitrate levels,less carcinogenic, always good right and cleaner taste/high
polycyclic aromatization and oxidation of terpenoids altering the flavor profile more robust with a lower ppm sensory threshold , less perfumey even soapy or "green" from corresponding aldehydes and ketones
Reduction of and consistent moisture content, even slow burn and no smoldering or black ash unwilling to burn
This is an aerobic process obviously, you dont want to just jar at the right rh.
Mold of any type wont typically grow under 60%. You want as much moisture as possible without it molding and good airflow, along with low temps- low 70's. Higher temps volatize terps and speed the bacterial break down of the plant, thats what makes brick weed yellow then turn brown and can give a foul odor, you want the plant to break it down.
The hay smell is of a similar process. But from a lack of oxygen, doesnt matter when you chop or what strain. It should never smell like that. Ever. My plants smell like dank all the way through. the "hay" smell is from nitrogen sugars cellulose, starch, etc breaking down anaerobically with the high moisture content. It begins to ferment. This releases ammonia and acids giving the foul odor.
Up rh (instead of jarring and burping) lower temps, and increase airflow is the general prescription.
Indian Spices
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I did my jaring without RH-meters a few years back... but I had time to check my jars all day long.
now I do use RH-meters! is so convenient!
i like my perfect smoke at 62% rehydrated.
I let them cure (two - three months) and then dry them to about 57-58%. after that, I put a boveda pack in the jar to get it back up tp 62% for my personal perfect smoke (I roll my joint with a cannabis/tobacco mix and use long papers not little ones for cigarettes)
the cure give the buds a smooth taste and its different to keep them at 62% and smoke or to cure let the nugs get drier and rehydrate... my personal experience
ps: I let my plants dry as a whole... if you have a special room for drying, you may be able to cure it as a complete plant, without cutting it apart!!
great stuff!
but I never had the place dedicated for drying only, so I will cut fan leaves as soon as they have shriveld up a bit. but not all of them. some are good to protect your buds
when the plant/ buds are dry to the touch... I talk about some of the lower buds... they tend to be best for checking that (the plant will evenly distribute the moisture), because I dont like to press my good buds to know how much water is inside...
then I trim and jar! I also jar trim with lots of resin for hash... cured trim is always better. but you can paperbag the trim too, just dont let it get to dry before processing/ or use ice water technique
now I do use RH-meters! is so convenient!
i like my perfect smoke at 62% rehydrated.
I let them cure (two - three months) and then dry them to about 57-58%. after that, I put a boveda pack in the jar to get it back up tp 62% for my personal perfect smoke (I roll my joint with a cannabis/tobacco mix and use long papers not little ones for cigarettes)
the cure give the buds a smooth taste and its different to keep them at 62% and smoke or to cure let the nugs get drier and rehydrate... my personal experience
ps: I let my plants dry as a whole... if you have a special room for drying, you may be able to cure it as a complete plant, without cutting it apart!!
great stuff!
but I never had the place dedicated for drying only, so I will cut fan leaves as soon as they have shriveld up a bit. but not all of them. some are good to protect your buds
when the plant/ buds are dry to the touch... I talk about some of the lower buds... they tend to be best for checking that (the plant will evenly distribute the moisture), because I dont like to press my good buds to know how much water is inside...
then I trim and jar! I also jar trim with lots of resin for hash... cured trim is always better. but you can paperbag the trim too, just dont let it get to dry before processing/ or use ice water technique
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grow tiger
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Idk bro , u do things a lidttle backwords n weird....... iv never herd of anything uv said ..... its as simple as hanging ur plant whole upsidedown , after about 5 days I trim all the fanleaves n gibgive her just a quick trim, within two days or more ( whenever the budz feel dry on the outside and the stem snaps but not in half all the way ) . Then do a real good manicure, get all the sugar leaves off n make the buds look nice..... then jar the buds with a rh meter or me I paid 5 $ for a humidity gage from the pet shop (they use em for reptiles) close ur masen jar , wait like 12 hours to get a good read... if ur rh reads 70% or higher u just take the budz out for a few hours n put em back n close it up.. continue doing this untill u can het it ro about 65rh n then just burp it omce a day for a week then maybe twice in 2 weeks n when u get it inbetween 60 and 64% rh , ur at ur cure zone n let it do its thing ... open it and awitch air every week and ull have smoother , non harsh n the tastiest bud ever. The longer u cure it the better it tastes n smells..... good luck everyone but id fallow these simple steps n ull have the best smellin dank everI did my jaring without RH-meters a few years back... but I had time to check my jars all day long.
now I do use RH-meters! is so convenient!
i like my perfect smoke at 62% rehydrated.
I let them cure (two - three months) and then dry them to about 57-58%. after that, I put a boveda pack in the jar to get it back up tp 62% for my personal perfect smoke (I roll my joint with a cannabis/tobacco mix and use long papers not little ones for cigarettes)
the cure give the buds a smooth taste and its different to keep them at 62% and smoke or to cure let the nugs get drier and rehydrate... my personal experience
ps: I let my plants dry as a whole... if you have a special room for drying, you may be able to cure it as a complete plant, without cutting it apart!!
great stuff!
but I never had the place dedicated for drying only, so I will cut fan leaves as soon as they have shriveld up a bit. but not all of them. some are good to protect your buds
when the plant/ buds are dry to the touch... I talk about some of the lower buds... they tend to be best for checking that (the plant will evenly distribute the moisture), because I dont like to press my good buds to know how much water is inside...
then I trim and jar! I also jar trim with lots of resin for hash... cured trim is always better. but you can paperbag the trim too, just dont let it get to dry before processing/ or use ice water technique
Indian Spices
Member
the only real difference in your steps and mine is the last step. after curing and if my buds go below 62%.. i rehydrate them because i like it that way.
I had planed to cut whole plant do this but think I need to cut tops and let some lower ones finish.
Where do I get the relitive humidity readers?
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GrowPops
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I never used a meter just my fingers and nose. I will be picking one up at the pet store when I get crickets for the monster lizard. I will do a side by side with the partner using the meter on the same plant....Luckily MY Pineapple Kush will need multiple jars
grow tiger
Member
Yea everyone says u gotta buy this high expensive digital rh meter, I spent 3 dollars on a reptile one n put 4 of them in one masen jar n every one read the same .... Personly I did the same thing, touch n smell untill I was at the pet store n said hey y not just try it .. N I've been useing them ever since. Good luck n happy growingI never used a meter just my fingers and nose. I will be picking one up at the pet store when I get crickets for the monster lizard. I will do a side by side with the partner using the meter on the same plant....Luckily MY Pineapple Kush will need multiple jars
grow tiger
Member
I just was told by very experienced groweres that u can't put the moister back in a bud, once u drop below 58 -55 if dried it to much n the curing process is done... Yes u can get the humidity in the jar back to 62 but ur not putting moisture back in the buds
GrowPops
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I will be trying one this time also. as a control to check myself. LOL
That has been my experience also.
Thanks Mr stickyscissor that helps
MrStickyScissors
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no problem. hope you walk away with some fire fire
GreenStick85
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Simon when you say about pot true colors, I am reminded of this Blueberry strain that was UNREal, its been over 5 years since smoking it and I have the fond memory of it.
The first was the color being a blend of gold and blue, blue being all over the underside of the bud leaves. Gold everywhere else. A perfect 10
For me if there ever was one.
Super sour og