A perfect cure every time
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ballaboyee21
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So if my jar's humidity is at a constant 67% humidity would there be a strong chance of mold? I'm just trying to figure out how precise this is... the air's humidity here is 64 or 65% if that helps. thanks.
SimonD
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No.
If you've let the humidity inside the container stabilize, as instructed in the tutorial, it's as precise as the hydrometer you're using.
Simon
SimonD
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It sounds like the moisture inside the bud isn't fully distributed, yet. Give it a little more time. Good luck.
Simon
SimonD
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One of the growers on IC setup a controlled-humidity chamber for curing. He reported excellent results. Having never done it myself, on a purely intuitive level, there's no reason why such a setup can't work well.
Simon
Trousers
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I've put a lot of thought into that as I unscrew jar after jar.
If I were motivated I would start a business around that idea.
I just want someone else to do it and I'll write a check.
no clue
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Most hang 5 to 7 days
Jennylasting
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ive got a bag before of not well dried weed, forgotten it and found it two weeks later, it tasted a lotbetter than before, so it worked that time
I don't think so. I'm not going to suggest that there is something special or magical about the water that was already in the buds, but it is different. Here is how I think of the curing process...
The plant is in some sort of emergency survival mode. It's trying a last ditch effort to reproduce, so it starts to cannibalize itself to maintain it's chemical and biological process. One of the things it does is begin breaking down all the chlorophyll. I've always imagined this was due to the imbalance between root and leaf material. The plant "knows" it has a surplus of photosynthetic capacity, so it starts cannibalizing the leaves to get resources to build more roots. This is a good thing as the chlorophyll in the leaves has a big effect on the taste of the smoke.
This is why adding water won't restart the curing process. All these biological processes are "alive". There are cells and enzymes, and who knows what else, all at work here. These living things need water to stay alive. Once the bud is dry, they are dead. Adding water back in will not revive them. It's these living processes that actually cure the bud.
Hopefully this makes sense. That's sort of how I think about it anyway. Maybe someone will find this useful, or maybe I'm just rambling.
Canibus7
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Makes sense but if what you say is true than that would mean bud is able to cure untill it has lost all moisture it had from when it was first cut down....so basically if u kept it fresh then u can always cure it, atleast untill its completely dry? to me that makes sense because I did a little experiement myself, grabbed a pound of kush and then I put like an ounce in the cupboard "curing" for a couple weeks and everyone was saying how it smelled better and tasted nicer too.I don't think so. I'm not going to suggest that there is something special or magical about the water that was already in the buds, but it is different. Here is how I think of the curing process...
The plant is in some sort of emergency survival mode. It's trying a last ditch effort to reproduce, so it starts to cannibalize itself to maintain it's chemical and biological process. One of the things it does is begin breaking down all the chlorophyll. I've always imagined this was due to the imbalance between root and leaf material. The plant "knows" it has a surplus of photosynthetic capacity, so it starts cannibalizing the leaves to get resources to build more roots. This is a good thing as the chlorophyll in the leaves has a big effect on the taste of the smoke.
This is why adding water won't restart the curing process. All these biological processes are "alive". There are cells and enzymes, and who knows what else, all at work here. These living things need water to stay alive. Once the bud is dry, they are dead. Adding water back in will not revive them. It's these living processes that actually cure the bud.
Hopefully this makes sense. That's sort of how I think about it anyway. Maybe someone will find this useful, or maybe I'm just rambling.
Jennylasting
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yeahh you cant cure weed that's already been dried, but you can cure weed that has been sold to you improperly dried for sure, sometime's i wonder if they guy just picked it off the plant before i got it!I don't think so. I'm not going to suggest that there is something special or magical about the water that was already in the buds, but it is different. Here is how I think of the curing process...
The plant is in some sort of emergency survival mode. It's trying a last ditch effort to reproduce, so it starts to cannibalize itself to maintain it's chemical and biological process. One of the things it does is begin breaking down all the chlorophyll. I've always imagined this was due to the imbalance between root and leaf material. The plant "knows" it has a surplus of photosynthetic capacity, so it starts cannibalizing the leaves to get resources to build more roots. This is a good thing as the chlorophyll in the leaves has a big effect on the taste of the smoke.
This is why adding water won't restart the curing process. All these biological processes are "alive". There are cells and enzymes, and who knows what else, all at work here. These living things need water to stay alive. Once the bud is dry, they are dead. Adding water back in will not revive them. It's these living processes that actually cure the bud.
Hopefully this makes sense. That's sort of how I think about it anyway. Maybe someone will find this useful, or maybe I'm just rambling.
I don't think the processes would continue until all moisture is gone. As areas become completely dry, all that 'living' activity will stop in that area. As the moist, and still biologically active, area retreats towards the core of the plant, the amount of active 'curing' will go down.
The 'curing' is doing something to the plant material. Cells, or parts of cells, are being destroyed or changed or whatever is happening. Eventually, all of these will get used up or 'cured', so I think you can't 'cure' forever.
In theory, the longer the cure the better, but you're trying to find the balance between the slowest/evenest dry and too much moisture that would allow something new to start growing.
That's about all I can probably say about the subject. I'm just getting back into growing after taking a couple decades off.
I did grow for a living, so I cured my share of buds. I didn't have any hygrometers back then. I just hung the plants until they 'felt' right, and then put them into jars. I would take them out of the jars a couple times in the first week or so to asses how well they are drying, then I would just burp the jars about once a week. Of course I lived in dry southern California back then, so that helps dry it I think. If your drying area is real humid, it might not be so simple. We will see how I do here in WA in a couple months. Jennylasting
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Hello, dunno if Simon is still reading this, but the kief collecting you recommend at the start, is that just giving your buds a quick roll over some mesh to let the trichomes fall through, im also wondering how these trichomes get "lost in the jar"? as im about to get on it and i'll happily do something to help get a little more out of my crop
cheers, peace
cheers, peace
I think you got it right Jenny, but I won't presume to speak on Simon's behalf. This is what I think he means...
"Lost in the jar" refers to the trichomes sticking to the glass. Have you ever noticed that old nugg jars start to get a brownish film inside? That's the trichomes/crystals from the bud (and probably some contaminants from the air, dust etc) that would likely have been recovered on the screen before putting into the jar. I used to feel a little guilty about putting buds on the screen when they were destined for market, but if you do it very mildly, you really do just reduce the amount that will end up on the jars/bags. I can't stress enough how little you want to roll them on the screen! It doesn't take much. It's easy to get excited seeing all that golden goodness forming on the glass, but don't get carried away. It was surprising how much you can take off without making any real detectable difference on the buds. I think what happens is you are just kind of smoothing out all the high points of the bud. These are the same spots that will be touching the sides of the jar, so you are removing them preemptively. I run the buds across the screen after they have dried on the string (4-8 days depending on conditions and buds) and after I have removed individual buds from branches (I hang them as whole plants or branches). Hope this helps.
