A QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SPROUTED SEEDLINGS IMMEDIATELY INTO FLOWER (no veg):

Snowback

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I have done my share of seedlings but I have never tried putting them straight into flower right from the start. For those that have, I am wondering if there will be a time in which they display the characteristics of vegging before they start to flower? The reason why I ask is because I would like to take a couple cuttings off of each of them before they start to flower in earnest, but are still old enough that the cuttings won't be super weak and tiny.

I once put 2 week-old seedlings into flower and they didn't even begin to flower for about another 3 and a half weeks.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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As twentyeight mentioned, plants still need around 3-4 weeks to reach maturity before they will flower. I've grown landrace sativas under 11-13 and they took 7 weeks before flowering at that schedule.

A photoperiod ran 12/12 will function like an autoflower. It will flower as soon as it deems itself to be mature, and it's usually shortly after the nodes alternate. That can vary with each strain, and the again, each phenotype.

The last lemon haze I grew indoors was ran 12-12 and took 24 days to show pre-flowers, and the around a two weeks to stretch and start stacking.
 
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VincenzioVonHook

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Some plants will grow without enough branching to take clones if you grow them 12/12 from seed.

That structure is very reminiscent of the Moroccan beldia an old dude down the road grew for years. Even with 6 weeks veg it always had short satellites. They were all straight dicks of bud protruding from medium with next to no lateral growth.

Would be amazing for a sog grow.
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This was planted during autumn where we have under 12 hours light here and had a similar structure bar the bottom few modes. Started flowering within two/three weeks. I don't know why but I like a huge dominant cola sometimes as it takes me back to a time where weed was simpler and I saw less manicured and trained plants. Everything grew very tall and dominant due to the sativa genetics being a majority back Im the day. I'm getting weirdly nostalgic.
 
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xtsho

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That structure is very reminiscent of the Moroccan beldia an old dude down the road grew for years. Even with 6 weeks veg it always had short satellites. They were all straight dicks of bud protruding from medium with next to no lateral growth.

Would be amazing for a sog grow.
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This was planted during autumn where we have under 12 hours light here and had a similar structure bar the bottom few modes. Started flowering within two/three weeks. I don't know why but I like a huge dominant cola sometimes as it takes me back to a time where weed was simpler and I saw less manicured and trained plants. Everything grew very tall and dominant due to the sativa genetics being a majority back Im the day. I'm getting weirdly nostalgic.
I've grown Moroccan Ketama that grew similar. Some also started flowering under 18/6. I recently grew some Egypt Sinai that had a similar one cola structure as well. Just a few small branches down low. Once it started flowering it was just straight up the main stem and one main cola. That's just how some plants grow naturally. I don't usually do any training. Just small plants into flower.
 

Snowback

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Plants will not flower until they are sexually mature. Between sprouting and that point they will be in the vegetative state.

Any reason you are running them 12/12 from seed?
Thank you. That answers my question and was more or less what I expected the answer to be.

I am doing it mostly just for the sake of trying something different and because I have some extra room currently, but also because I am curious to see any potential differences that might arise in the final root mass, height, branching, etc...
 

Snowback

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I agree those would be perfect for smaller pots just packed side by side. All bud. It would be a bummer to miss out on a pheno like that. Like Lowryder in the early 2000s
I used to grow some stuff called "mighty mite" that grew like that. It was crap weed though as far as smoking went and did not stay around for long. In modern times, it would have immediately got the chuck.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Thank you. That answers my question and was more or less what I expected the answer to be.

I am doing it mostly just for the sake of trying something different and because I have some extra room currently, but also because I am curious to see any potential differences that might arise in the final root mass, height, branching, etc...
It's just going to result in a smaller plant. Good luck.
 
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