A question from an indoor grower

okcomputer

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You think the plants would do better if I just placed them in the shade of some citrus trees I have growing back there? Thats an option too if it would work
 

Kaendar

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You think the plants would do better if I just placed them in the shade of some citrus trees I have growing back there? Thats an option too if it would work
What you want to aim for is a greenhouse with a roof only.. so not really a greenhouse. You want sun to hit the plants but not so much that it will stress them out.
 

okcomputer

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What you want to aim for is a greenhouse with a roof only.. so not really a greenhouse. You want sun to hit the plants but not so much that it will stress them out.
Is that something I can find? Or will I have to design and build it all myself?
 

Metasynth

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You think the plants would do better if I just placed them in the shade of some citrus trees I have growing back there? Thats an option too if it would work
I mean, if they're in pots, you could move them under the treess when it gets really hot, but you want to maximize the plants exposure to direct sunlight. You don't really want them shaded by trees too much. It's a hardy plant, it can take it. I've used couple a biggass beach umbrellas in the past when the numbers get into the triple digits where I'm at...I like the option of being able to remove the shade when the temps cool down a little, and get as much sun as possible on those plants.
 

Metasynth

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You don't need a "greenhouse without walls", you just need to monitor the plants, and if they're in pots and you think they're getting heast stressed,move them under the trees or put up a beach umbrella or two. It's not THAT complicated, try not to overthink it.
 

okcomputer

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Tell me if you think this is a good way for me to get started in outdoor growing, given the extreme heat. I plan on putting several 20gal smart pots around the base of my citrus trees and using shade cloth if needed to block the sun further
 

Metasynth

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Sounds fine....I wouldn't use 20 gallon pots if you're planning on planting this season, since the plants won't have time to grow that large before they flower. Probably be fine with 5-10 gallons. IF you were planting seeds in May, then yes, the bigger the pot the better, but if you plant in the middle of July, they're not gonna have that long of a veg time.
 

Metasynth

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I still personally don't think you should put the pots at the base of trees, you want as much sun on them as possible once they're beyond seedling stage.
 

okcomputer

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I have an indoor grow going to keep me busy until I harvest the first week of august. What type of soil and nutes do you prefer to use?
 

Metasynth

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Soil and nutes are different for everyone, based of preference. I'm using leftover soil I made last year from a base soil amended with bone meal, blood meal, seabird guano, and a couple other things.
 

Kaendar

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I have an indoor grow going to keep me busy until I harvest the first week of august. What type of soil and nutes do you prefer to use?
I would suggest any organic soil or soiless mix with adequate drainage and ferts in them. Im using something with worm castings, bat guano, vermiculite, and other necessary ingredients. I get the bags for $7. As far as nutes, its up to as far as how much chemicals you want in your plants. I use a light organic nute that is 8-7-6.
 

okcomputer

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I still personally don't think you should put the pots at the base of trees, you want as much sun on them as possible once they're beyond seedling stage.
They're pretty small trees, and I was just going to put them near the trees, I just figured if the trees were growing ok there, it was a good spot in the yard
 

Metasynth

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They're pretty small trees, and I was just going to put them near the trees, I just figured if the trees were growing ok there, it was a good spot in the yard
Ok, I was thinking they were larger. Pick the spot in your yard that gets the most direct sunlight from sunrise to sunset. If you need to shade them, beach umbrellas are like 8 bucks at walmart.
 

okcomputer

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I'm using chemical nutes now, but only because I don't have the ability to compost in my growlab. Thats one of the reasons I wanted to switch to outdoor growing was that I have more freedom to try different things
 

beginner.legal.growop

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Everything I am growing survived the week that I had around 102 degree weather. They were fine, but the soil dried out really fast. I have a bunch of mixes of sativa indica and also some ruderalisis. they did not seem to mind it one bit. It stays around 90-104 where I live. And around 50-66 degrees at night.
 

dvs1038

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I would say instead of building a greenhouse and all that check out that shading cloth its made to cut out the sun there is like a 50/50 and 75/25 where it only lets thru half or 3/4 of the sun's light will help to cut heat. Also u can spread an inch or 2 of mulch on top of ur soil to keep it cool. Then a fan or 2 to keep a breeze goin.
 

shizz

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what i would do is build my own. screen walls glass top. full air flow. no reason to have glass sides.
 

dvs1038

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Ouch, idk bout the glass top in AZ, wouldn't that b like usin a magnify glass to fry some ants? Or do u mean like some sort of frosted glass and am I just a tard?
 

Ku$hking3883

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Build a 8ft privacy fence, Dig your grow area down a foot or two, Cover the top of your grow area with white or green Corrugated Roof Panel or a thin shade cloth so no pesky porker copters can see your grow. Other then that AZ is to hot for just a reg green house.
 
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