Abe's Up A Tree Stealth Grow

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Avering said:
I used to dream about doing stuff like this. How often do you have to fill up that sip? I just made my first 5 gallon sip a couple days ago and I’m testing it out with a papaya plant outside.
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Its never too late :cool:
The resevoir in the SIP holds about 6-7 litres and up until 2 weeks before stretch it only requires filling every 3rd day or so but during stretch and 3/4 way through flower every day or second day at the latest . My SIP is made from 2 buckets and a few other bits so they are a little taller than a standard 5gal/ 20ltr bucket and hold more medium .
 
Avering

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Absorber said:
Its never too late :cool:
The resevoir in the SIP holds about 6-7 litres and up until 2 weeks before stretch it only requires filling every 3rd day or so but during stretch and 3/4 way through flower every day or second day at the latest . My SIP is made from 2 buckets and a few other bits so they are a little taller than a standard 5gal/ 20ltr bucket and hold more medium .
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Thanks haha. That’s great. Do you use fabric pots to hold the medium? Or a layer of fabric on the bottom to not allow the roots to grow into the water? My sip is also two buckets, I’ll have to take a few pictures tomorrow and make sure I did it right
 
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Avering said:
Thanks haha. That’s great. Do you use fabric pots to hold the medium? Or a layer of fabric on the bottom to not allow the roots to grow into the water? My sip is also two buckets, I’ll have to take a few pictures tomorrow and make sure I did it right
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I use material weed matt over the perferated bottom to stop medium dropping into resevoir . I use a 90mm bit of pipe for the wicking foot with a 100mm - 90mm reducing bush modified to hold floor of SIP up this way leaves the whole resevoir for liquid
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This is the 100mm to 90mm reducing bush with the 100mm bit cut off leaving the flat lip that holds floor up and protrudes up past floor 30mm that 30mm of the floor has a layer of perlite over the material weed matting
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Avering

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Absorber said:
I use material weed matt over the perferated bottom to stop medium dropping into resevoir . I use a 90mm bit of pipe for the wicking foot with a 100mm - 90mm reducing bush modified to hold floor of SIP up this way leaves the whole resevoir for liquid
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This is the 100mm to 90mm reducing bush with the 100mm bit cut off leaving the flat lip that holds floor up and protrudes up past floor 30mm that 30mm of the floor has a layer of perlite over the material weed matting
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Thank you for showing me some pics. I’m trying to understand how this works. Could I see the bottom of the top bucket and what’s inside the bottom one? My build is 3 net cups at the bottom of the bottom bucket and one 3 inch net cup in the middle of the top bucket. Also a 1” opening for the pvc pipe down to the reservoir
 
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Avering said:
Thank you for showing me some pics. I’m trying to understand how this works. Could I see the bottom of the top bucket and what’s inside the bottom one? My build is 3 net cups at the bottom of the bottom bucket and one 3 inch net cup in the middle of the top bucket. Also a 1” opening for the pvc pipe down to the reservoir
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Also you will see a drain on the outside, that makes sure there always an inch of air below the medium it stops SIP being overfilled and i can spin the drain to empty resevoir its position also stop pests entering via the drain.
The top bucket is cut 14cm from the bottom and flipped upside down as the inner floor , i screw the top section of the bucket to the other bucket from the inside into the thicker reinforced section .
The fill pipe has a 45° angle cut on the bottom so it doesnt seal on the floor of SIP20241120_162846.jpg
I cut the bucket rather than just stacking them so roots can also travel down the side of the floor to resevoir aswell. And i wrap the otside of the SIP's to stop the sun heating the root zone and resevoir up.
 
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Also you will see a drain on the outside, that makes sure there always an inch of air below the medium it stops SIP being overfilled and i can spin the drain to empty resevoir its position also stop pests entering via the drain.
The top bucket is cut 14cm from the bottom and flipped upside down as the inner floor , i screw the top section of the bucket to the other bucket from the inside into the thicker reinforced section .
The fill pipe has a 45° angle cut on the bottom so it doesnt seal on the floor of SIPView attachment 5440466
I cut the bucket rather than just stacking them so roots can also travel down the side of the floor to resevoir aswell. And i wrap the otside of the SIP's to stop the sun heating the root zone and resevoir up.
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Awesome. I’m trying to figure out how this piece is positioned and if it goes inside the bottom bucket? Is that what would hold it up?
 

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Avering said:
Awesome. I’m trying to figure out how this piece is positioned and if it goes inside the bottom bucket? Is that what would hold it up?
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The first pic up top is of two 100mm to 90mm reducing bush's top one is original one the bottom one is after trimmed leaving the shoulder this is fitted to a bit of 90mm pipe that is slotted to allow liquid to penetrate the wicking foot and is used to prop inner floor up
 
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The first pic up top is of two 100mm to 90mm reducing bush's top one is original one the bottom one is after trimmed leaving the shoulder this is fitted to a bit of 90mm pipe that is slotted to allow liquid to penetrate the wicking foot and is used to prop inner floor up
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So in that second pic you sent me just now the bottom of the bucket has the pipe raised a bit? I still haven’t learned how this wicking works, my understanding is that the water is forced upward somehow into the medium. Forgive my lack of knowledge I’m a complete noob
 
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Avering said:
So in that second pic you sent me just now the bottom of the bucket has the pipe raised a bit? I still haven’t learned how this wicking works, my understanding is that the water is forced upward somehow into the medium. Forgive my lack of knowledge I’m a complete noob
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Yes the bit of pipe protruding is the modified reducing bush on the bit of slotted 90mm pipe , when the pot is filled with your medium mix that 90mm wicking foot is also filled with the medium the water will wick up from the foot into the pot a little and the roots will grow down the wicking foot too . You will have to top water for a couple of weeks until plant has established some roots .
 
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Yes the bit of pipe protruding is the modified reducing bush on the bit of slotted 90mm pipe , when the pot is filled with your medium mix that 90mm wicking foot is also filled with the medium the water will wick up from the foot into the pot a little and the roots will grow down the wicking foot too . You will have to top water for a couple of weeks until plant has established some roots .
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Awesome. So do the roots constantly touch the water in the reservoir or does the pocket of air and fabric stop them ? Would it be bad if they did?
 
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