rosecitypapa
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Ok, so tell me why the discrepancy between Newtonian physics and quantum mechanics and why the latter is causing a reexamination of the former?Make no mistake, the mechanisms behind fire-walking are well understood and well documented. The physics theory behind why fire-walkers are not harmed makes replicable predictions that explain whats happening, without the added assumption that consciousness is involved.
One theory works within the known laws of thermodynamics, the other introduces new information which must cause reexamination of everything learned about physics so far. The added assumption is not necessary, so why prefer it?
Just for kicks Heisenberg, what's you take on crop circles?
Apparently to you, I do not.Do you understand what the definition of 'religion' is?
How would one use science as religion?
As simply as being a dogmatic description of reality, self-righteous in it's existence and it's proclaimed benefit for EVERYONE.
Of course, that's how I consciously create meaning in my life. I'm defining the terms as I use them for my own subjective experience of an 'objective' reality that science claims exist.That isn't the definition of 'perfect'. What you seem to be doing is taking words and ascribing your own personal definition to them, then calling it a day..
I'll state it again; my definition of perfection is a dynamic state that includes the state of improvement. In each of those cases, one could either start that one is flawed and essentially try to get from 'bad' to 'good'. Or in those cases, one could start that the state is perfect just the way it is and improvement would be even better - going from 'good' to 'better'.
First, perfection is 100% subjective. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", similarly, perfection is as well.
What about our 'design' flaws? If humans were perfect, why would we have these?
-humans with glasses (eyes, clearly imperfect)
-hearing aids (ears, imperfect)
-pace makers (heart, imperfect)
-diseases
-baldness
-ego
-apendix
-midgets are perfect to you?
Actually I'm not saying that at all. I can understand that is what you heard. To clarify, the point that I'm making is that the scientific method is of tremendous value. Intuition and gut feelings are at the heart of discovering new ways of thinking, they also have their limitations that scientists are all too quick to point out. When it comes down to it, is the world more beautiful and mysterious or less so? We could use either religion or science as our reason.Right, and science does absolutely nothing to hinder human curiosity, infact, completely on the contrary, science promotes and improves upon human curiosity.
I've heard this argument plenty of times before, essentially what you're saying is "if something sparks an interest in someone, or leads someone to discover something, such as human intuition, a hunch or a gut feeling, that thing is automatically good, and can further be trusted/accepted/utilized in future science experiments." I have pointed out the flaws in this reasoning. Your intuition, your hunches AND your gut feelings are NOT SCIENTIFIC. It doesn't matter if that's what led you to a new discovery. The ends do not justify the means unless you properly use the scientific method.
I've heard the standard explanation plenty of times, it wouldn't work for me when facing those coals. Maybe it'll work for people that put science on the same pedestal that religion used to occupy.No, watch the second video, that's why I posted two..
The reason people don't burn their feet is because of physics and preparation, not because they're altering their state of mind somehow and "believing" they won't burn their feet. Carbon (which the what the embers of the fire they're walking on is made of) is a poor conductor of heat, so it doesn't transfer the heat from the coals to the feet very well.