AC Infinity 69pro , or pro +

Got a question here folks. And please forgive the ignorance of it. So am about to automate my grow. So far all have been running on mechanical timers. I have an AC Infinity fan, carbon filter comdo. And since it already is UIS, ready. I figured it would make sense to get the 69 pro and or the plus model.
My question here is can a person change the programs on the unit, remotely??? I know both models are WiFi ready, with the Plus model being Bluetooth also. But all the manufacturers write ups and the few YouTube videos I have seen, I haven't seen that feature. Are these units capable of that?

flyawayclyde said:

Got a question here folks. And please forgive the ignorance of it. So am about to automate my grow. So far all have been running on mechanical timers. I have an AC Infinity fan, carbon filter comdo. And since it already is UIS, ready. I figured it would make sense to get the 69 pro and or the plus model.
My question here is can a person change the programs on the unit, remotely??? I know both models are WiFi ready, with the Plus model being Bluetooth also. But all the manufacturers write ups and the few YouTube videos I have seen, I haven't seen that feature. Are these units capable of that?

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They don't mention or show the app?
The phone app is the easiest way. I have the 67 with Bluetooth and do everything on my phone, never touch the controller.

Yep, I got the pro plus. I do everything from the app!

For a few dollars more go with the plus. You’ll be able to plug in 8 different devices instead of 4

The incremental cost difference is $20, $30, ? and you double the number of devices you can monitor.

I started growing using a PulseOne, an Inkbird to control a humidifier, and an Inkbird to turn on a tent heater. The Pulse would tell me how VPD was changing and I spent hours fiddling with the Inbird to change the RH threshold to get the humidifier to run. All that went away when the AC Infinity humidifier was released.

Everything is controllable through the app. And it's a well done app (I've been a software engineer for 30+ years and but Apple made me an offer I could not turn down and I worked for Apple in the aughts) and, when I've had to call tech support, their staff has been very good.

Remote connectivity is a great way to go. I grow in hydro (DWC) and the only routine maintenance that's needed is to add water from time to time (res swaps are weeks apart because the res holds 28 gallons). Thanks to the Controller 69, I really don't need to go near the tent for, perhaps, up to a week at a time. The Controller 69 controls the humidifier + inline fan + tent fan + oscillating tent fan and, if I need to run the heater, I drop off one of the tent fans and let the C69 run the heater. The only major item I can't control is the grow light but, once my grow hits late veg, that's set to about 90% power (900-1000µmols) and never changes.

AC Infinity is doing a lot of things really well (don't get me started on their lights, though) and the cost/benefit makes it a complete no brainer.

Delps8 said:

The incremental cost difference is $20, $30, ? and you double the number of devices you can monitor.

I started growing using a PulseOne, an Inkbird to control a humidifier, and an Inkbird to turn on a tent heater. The Pulse would tell me how VPD was changing and I spent hours fiddling with the Inbird to change the RH threshold to get the humidifier to run. All that went away when the AC Infinity humidifier was released.

Everything is controllable through the app. And it's a well done app (I've been a software engineer for 30+ years and but Apple made me an offer I could not turn down and I worked for Apple in the aughts) and, when I've had to call tech support, their staff has been very good.

Remote connectivity is a great way to go. I grow in hydro (DWC) and the only routine maintenance that's needed is to add water from time to time (res swaps are weeks apart because the res holds 28 gallons). Thanks to the Controller 69, I really don't need to go near the tent for, perhaps, up to a week at a time. The Controller 69 controls the humidifier + inline fan + tent fan + oscillating tent fan and, if I need to run the heater, I drop off one of the tent fans and let the C69 run the heater. The only major item I can't control is the grow light but, once my grow hits late veg, that's set to about 90% power (900-1000µmols) and never changes.

AC Infinity is doing a lot of things really well (don't get me started on their lights, though) and the cost/benefit makes it a complete no brainer.

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Delps8 said:

The incremental cost difference is $20, $30, ? and you double the number of devices you can monitor.

I started growing using a PulseOne, an Inkbird to control a humidifier, and an Inkbird to turn on a tent heater. The Pulse would tell me how VPD was changing and I spent hours fiddling with the Inbird to change the RH threshold to get the humidifier to run. All that went away when the AC Infinity humidifier was released.

Everything is controllable through the app. And it's a well done app (I've been a software engineer for 30+ years and but Apple made me an offer I could not turn down and I worked for Apple in the aughts) and, when I've had to call tech support, their staff has been very good.

Remote connectivity is a great way to go. I grow in hydro (DWC) and the only routine maintenance that's needed is to add water from time to time (res swaps are weeks apart because the res holds 28 gallons). Thanks to the Controller 69, I really don't need to go near the tent for, perhaps, up to a week at a time. The Controller 69 controls the humidifier + inline fan + tent fan + oscillating tent fan and, if I need to run the heater, I drop off one of the tent fans and let the C69 run the heater. The only major item I can't control is the grow light but, once my grow hits late veg, that's set to about 90% power (900-1000µmols) and never changes.

AC Infinity is doing a lot of things really well (don't get me started on their lights, though) and the cost/benefit makes it a complete no brainer.

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Are you using the ac infinity lights? If so which one? I’m using the eco 10

Hiroller718 said:

Are you using the ac infinity lights? If so which one? I’m using the eco 10

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Evo10

Hiroller718 said:

Are you using the ac infinity lights? If so which one? I’m using the eco 10

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No.

My main lights are a Growcraft X2 veg light and an X3 flower light. I started with a Mars SP 3000 and bought a Vipar XS-1500 as a fill light (not the Pro).

I bought those lights based on PPFD uniformity, primarily.

Delps8 said:

The incremental cost difference is $20, $30, ? and you double the number of devices you can monitor.

I started growing using a PulseOne, an Inkbird to control a humidifier, and an Inkbird to turn on a tent heater. The Pulse would tell me how VPD was changing and I spent hours fiddling with the Inbird to change the RH threshold to get the humidifier to run. All that went away when the AC Infinity humidifier was released.

Everything is controllable through the app. And it's a well done app (I've been a software engineer for 30+ years and but Apple made me an offer I could not turn down and I worked for Apple in the aughts) and, when I've had to call tech support, their staff has been very good.

Remote connectivity is a great way to go. I grow in hydro (DWC) and the only routine maintenance that's needed is to add water from time to time (res swaps are weeks apart because the res holds 28 gallons). Thanks to the Controller 69, I really don't need to go near the tent for, perhaps, up to a week at a time. The Controller 69 controls the humidifier + inline fan + tent fan + oscillating tent fan and, if I need to run the heater, I drop off one of the tent fans and let the C69 run the heater. The only major item I can't control is the grow light but, once my grow hits late veg, that's set to about 90% power (900-1000µmols) and never changes.

AC Infinity is doing a lot of things really well (don't get me started on their lights, though) and the cost/benefit makes it a complete no brainer.

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Thank you sir......And all else who have answered this thread thus far....
Very good response here on the capability of this controller.
So another question. and it really is more or less similar to my first one.
"when using the phone app, to set up the programing, and to 'Change the previously ' set
conditions , do I have to be in the same room, or say can I be in a different state, location??????"

flyawayclyde said:

Thank you sir......And all else who have answered this thread thus far....
Very good response here on the capability of this controller.
So another question. and it really is more or less similar to my first one.
"when using the phone app, to set up the programing, and to 'Change the previously ' set
conditions , do I have to be in the same room, or say can I be in a different state, location??????"

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It's done over wifi, so the controller needs to be connected to your router then your phone can access it from anywhere in the world and change settings.

But do note, all your data and geo-location goes through their servers which is a big issue for some. The Bluetooth version you need to be in the same room.

flyawayclyde said:

Thank you sir......And all else who have answered this thread thus far....
Very good response here on the capability of this controller.
So another question. and it really is more or less similar to my first one.
"when using the phone app, to set up the programing, and to 'Change the previously ' set
conditions , do I have to be in the same room, or say can I be in a different state, location??????"

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Yup.

You can be in BFE and control things with your app.

LowRange said:

It's done over wifi, so the controller needs to be connected to your router then your phone can access it from anywhere in the world and change settings.

But do note, all your data and geo-location goes through their servers which is a big issue for some. The Bluetooth version you need to be in the same room.

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Thank you friend.
Am not worried about the 'geo-locaton' ability. I am running a dedicated VPN, on all of my devices. So let them. Thank you all for the help. This has made up my mind. Thank you......
Flyawayclyde

LowRange said:

It's done over wifi, so the controller needs to be connected to your router then your phone can access it from anywhere in the world and change settings.

But do note, all your data and geo-location goes through their servers which is a big issue for some. The Bluetooth version you need to be in the same room.

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First part is spot on. As long as your network is connected to the Internet - which it has to be to get web pages, Netflix, etc. - traffic from your local area network can be accessed from the Internet.

Second part - the data can be made available but the only "geo-location" that can be done is you might be able to get to a certain area within a state based on how public IP addresses are distributed to Internet Service Providers but the only ways to get closer is require breaking the law (and are not worth it because there are so many ways to find someone's location through other means).

Security on the internet is good, meaning that devices that can be attacked are "hardened" by the manufacturer to keep bad guys out. It's a constant battle but, fortunately, the good guys are winning.

WiFi traffic can be "routed", meaning it moves from LAN to LAN or LAN to Internet because of a router. Bluetooth is not routable. That's one reason it's quicker than WiFi but it also means that it has a limited range. Depending on which version of Bluetooth, range…ranges from 10 meters to about 250 meters. Most consumer Bluetooth devices use the version that's good for 10 meters (low power and therefore less expensive to produce).

The C69 is good for about 10 meters. My tent is in the garage below my house (typical SoCal avert-your-eyes-ugly beige building with a garage on the first floor, living on the second, bedrooms on the third). I can get a Bluetooth connection here in my living room, which is < 10 meter straight line distance, but not on the third floor.

flyawayclyde said:

Thank you friend.
Am not worried about the 'geo-locaton' ability. I am running a dedicated VPN, on all of my devices. So let them. Thank you all for the help. This has made up my mind. Thank you......
Flyawayclyde

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Yeh, VPN's are the ticket.

Delps8 said:

Second part - the data can be made available but the only "geo-location" that can be done is you might be able to get to a certain area within a state based on how public IP addresses are distributed to Internet Service Providers but the only ways to get closer is require breaking the law (and are not worth it because there are so many ways to find someone's location through other means).

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No your phone has a gps accurate down to a meter or so. When you first connect your phone to the controller you need location permissions enabled. Then you enter your home wifi SSID/pass and your phone/controller send the data to AC servers. It has nothing to do with IP addresses.

LowRange said:

No your phone has a gps accurate down to a meter or so. When you first connect your phone to the controller you need location permissions enabled. Then you enter your home wifi SSID/pass and your phone/controller send the data to AC servers. It has nothing to do with IP addresses.

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that can be spoofed on jailbroken iphones

If GPS is a concern for anyone you might want to avoid Inkbird hardware there equipment requires Location to be turned on.

Star Dog said:

If GPS is a concern for anyone you might want to avoid Inkbird hardware there equipment requires Location to be turned on.

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You know it really does amaze me just far the Manufacturer spying on consumers has risen!!
I really do understand the need to 'See' where a cell phone is, for tower locating, and some other means. But the level the "Location" feature needs to be on for some electronics has gotten to the point it really is down right espionage on the consumers in their homes..... But this, I do believe is a topic for a different thread. Thank you all for the answers you all! provided.

LowRange said:

No your phone has a gps accurate down to a meter or so. When you first connect your phone to the controller you need location permissions enabled. Then you enter your home wifi SSID/pass and your phone/controller send the data to AC servers. It has nothing to do with IP addresses.

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I was confused by your reply, thinking that you were focusing on the sending of the data but, reading up thread, it sounds like the issue is with vendors hoovering up data and selling it. Got it.