Hydro4life
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My plants don’t give a fuck about that!!
Advance nutrients are the best !
Chrisgrowbud
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Get your own post u douche bag. Do you even grow weed ? Show it or shut the fuck up dude
Chrisgrowbud
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If you have a fucking brain you would realize that advance isn't even an American company. Fuck the UK and there shitty weed . American is where its at don't like it kill yourself mate
andymex
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What A+B nutrients has all 16 elements ?
Chrisgrowbud
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I would also like to know
andymex
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Bitches and guns are good ?
budman111
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I use Canna Aqua flores, It even adds pH neutral Silica
rob333
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The owner is from Canada you fucking dick head
rob333
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And if u would have a fucking brain u would relised I'm not from the uk lol
Gond00s
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sounds like hes using the whole fox farms line up
Dr. Who
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Adding silica or "forcing" silica as you state. Is good for monocot plants but, in soil, basically does nothing for a dicot plant!
Cannabis is a dicot. It uses available silica in the soil at a low rate! There is more available in "proper" soil (for cannabis) then it can use.
Adding it?
UNLESS your in hydro, or soil less!
Best Si supplement to use? AgriSil.......
I'll start with this... "AN will work. Any line "will" work. You just have to figure out how to properly use it vs. their BS charting".
I do not approve of their marketing practice. They tell you to many stretched truth's to outright lies! They print their own propaganda magazine that contains more lies then truth's. Some of their lines are formulated and charted so you HAVE to use some or many of their over priced and watered down supplements,,or they won't give the proper result.
Dr. Who
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No, they are actually using that Mg in their Nutrient balance calculations..
In the long run, I have for some time suggested a simple supplement of a nice heavy half cup of Dolo to a whole bag (1.5 cf) of Fox Farm OF as it has the habit of running out of Mg and low on Ca over longer periods of time.. I do tend to run more strains that are Mg pigs too.
Hydro4life
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Never said you have to add it to soil. I said “you’re plants will benefit from adding it if in soil”
Took a couple of screenshots of an Australian study rather than explaining it all.
Yes it is a very abundant mineral but not as easily absorbed. (Some soils more than others)
I don’t agree with you that to get good results with AN you have to use other AN additives.
That pic of those plants were bloom nutes with a little potassium silica and I watered the last of my b52 into one watering for a 3 month veg. So pretty well bloom nutes all through veg for 3 months with no deficiencies or toxicity.
I do agree with the bullshit marketing though.
Dr. Who
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Again - Monocot vs. Dicot plant study.
Those are Monocot plants! They effectively use extra silica.
Cannabis is a dicot. It ranks mid range on a the very low end users of silica by a dicot plant. Translation: Cannabis does not benefit from Si supplementation is soil growing..
Marketing ploy for sellers of Si products to cannabis growers and the cannabis growing industry...
They give you all that great looking information on how much good it does for "plants".
They do not tell you that every study they list.... Is about MONOCOT plants..
They do not tell you that what your growing is a DICOT plant.
NOR, do they tell you that their "magic" silica,,,,does not really do any of those great things for by far, most DICOT plants. Cannabis being one of the ones it does no measurable good for..
UNLESS your growing hydro - Where there is no (so little it is considered "no") natural available Si in water, or the basic nutrient line.
Now go forward with education and share the TRUTH!
Dr. Who
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Reread what I said sir!
"Some of their lines are formulated and charted so you HAVE to use some or many of their over priced and watered down supplements,,or they won't give the proper result".
Note the word "SOME" used twice in that answer!
They used to flat out try and sell you several different "levels" of growing nutrients.. How many people got sucked into spend countless dollars on some lie about using all the special supplements to grow at a "Master grower" level..
There's Bull Shit and then their is out right lies like Trump makes. That fell into Trumpian level lying!
They might not take that exact approach any more but, they are what they are.
Be sure to buy their flush and their Si products.
After all, they share SO MUCH truth about them, you must absolutely use them for the best results...... Pretty much sum's up how they sound to me!
It's a no wonder thing, that all Mike's Chemical engineers left the company some years back! They had marketing and application issues with him.
I met one at a good friends shop. We had quite the chat. Should have seen the brick house babe with him!
She used to be Big Mikes girl.
She left him too!
Hydro4life
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I do agree with you on the marketing side of things Dr. Who.
Just out of interest, you’ve personally added Si to soil and saw no benefits? Branches didn’t get firmer?
I grow in hydro and coco but am looking at getting back into a few soil grows next outdoor season......
Hydro4life
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Haha. Wow, that’s up there in the lying department for sure, comparing them to trumpReread what I said sir!
"Some of their lines are formulated and charted so you HAVE to use some or many of their over priced and watered down supplements,,or they won't give the proper result".
Note the word "SOME" used twice in that answer!
They used to flat out try and sell you several different "levels" of growing nutrients.. How many people got sucked into spend countless dollars on some lie about using all the special supplements to grow at a "Master grower" level..
There's Bull Shit and then their is out right lies like Trump makes. That fell into Trumpian level lying!
They might not take that exact approach any more but, they are what they are.
Be sure to buy their flush and their Si products.
After all, they share SO MUCH truth about them, you must absolutely use them for the best results...... Pretty much sum's up how they sound to me!
It's a no wonder thing, that all Mike's Chemical engineers left the company some years back! They had marketing and application issues with him.
I met one at a good friends shop. We had quite the chat. Should have seen the brick house babe with him!
She used to be Big Mikes girl.
She left him too!
Yea right..... he’s a fool then isn’t he! Lol.
A couple of us were talking on another forum and apparently they discovered (not sure who but it wasn’t AN) that flawless finish assists in terpene production!? They worked out it was the high sulphur at the end of flower apparently put turpene production in to over drive?
Adding epsom salt is meant to do the same for the terps...?
Maybe flawless finish is a bottle of epsom salt with great marketing? Lol.
Dr. Who
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In soil? No sir! I saw NO benefit at all. Nothing really changed but, my ability to mix my nutrients with minor care. Add that Si to the mix and you better be damn careful how and in what order you do your mixing.
In lab testing of the Si content of plant materials (this was in college and done on several Dicot and Monocot plants).
Almost non measurable amounts of Si increase in 98% of Dicots tested...
On Monocots, Grains and especially tropical Monocots. The Si content increase was significant! (Coconut Palms, Rice, Barley and Rye, etc).
Dr. Who
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I am working with specific sulfate compounds now..Haha. Wow, that’s up there in the lying department for sure, comparing them to trump
Yea right..... he’s a fool then isn’t he! Lol.
A couple of us were talking on another forum and apparently they discovered (not sure who but it wasn’t AN) that flawless finish assists in terpene production!? They worked out it was the high sulphur at the end of flower apparently put turpene production in to over drive?
Adding epsom salt is meant to do the same for the terps...?
Maybe flawless finish is a bottle of epsom salt with great marketing? Lol.
2 of my home made things are sulfate compounds to specifically increase terp and Trich profiles.
It works.
One needs to be aware of how much and how long you apply any Mg or K sulfate too. Each will restrict THC production if over used...
Balancing (setting) certain ppm amounts (available in the soil) of Mn and Fe are the key to higher THC or CBD counts..
Hydro4life
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Awesome! When have you found to be the sweet spot time wise to start boosting Mg or K sulfate Dr.who?
I imagine it would be introduced slightly earlier in soil as opposed to coco/hydro....?